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Sounds like apple once again doing the "Over exagerate = Happy customers!"

I heard a great analogy for it in these very forums: A pizza boys knows he can make his destination in 20 minutes but says it will be there in 40 minutes so if he is delyaed in traffic and takes 30 minutes the customer is still happy!

I believe apple are doing the same here and it is similar to the upgrading times which have been quoted as being done in only 30 minutes!

Yeah...what?
 
Would You Please Post A Series Of From The Shipping Box Photos?

Sure.

If you can think of 'other stuff', let me know :)

Edit:

PS: iPhoto runs a LOT faster when scrubbing through albums via 'events' view... meaning the pictures show up a lot quicker as I move my mouse across an event.
Would you mind recreating opening the box it shipped in and what was in that box and what was in that and what else was in that for us? No one has posted a series of opening the box photos. Thanks.
 
Movies work perfectly. Wow. I wish I had a remote.

Front Row 2 is phenomenal.

So Front Row 2 is there? Automatically? I had to shoe-horn Front Row 1 onto my PB G4, and the one thing that's given me pause about updating to Leopard is the potential loss of Front Row. So this isn't an issue? (I'm still struggling with the issue that Apple has having an Apple Remote as a requirement for Front Row to install...)
 
I was wondering if i need to bump up my ram to prevent 10.5 from laggin on my 12" PB last revision. Anyone here think I would need to bump my ram to 1.25gb first before I buy leopard? Tiger runs fine on here with no lag what so ever.
 
I was wondering if i need to bump up my ram to prevent 10.5 from laggin on my 12" PB last revision. Anyone here think I would need to bump my ram to 1.25gb first before I buy leopard? Tiger runs fine on here with no lag what so ever.

When I went from 768 to 1.25 on my pbook 2 years ago under Tiger I saw a noticeable improvement. I wouldn't say you have to do it before you installed leopard ,but I'd really really encourage you to do it someday.

A 1GB stick doesn't cost that much.
 
When I went from 768 to 1.25 on my pbook 2 years ago under Tiger I saw a noticeable improvement. I wouldn't say you have to do it before you installed leopard ,but I'd really really encourage you to do it someday.

A 1GB stick doesn't cost that much.


Ill get one soon prolly only with my 2 externals i want to get too. I was wondering if i need 2 external HD's one for my music because i want it on another HD instead of my laptops HD.
 
Leopard on a G3... let us know how that goes :)

So far, my experience has been great.

There are some very minor improvements that I'm sure will be addressed with the .1 and so forth updates. You know what I mean though... the kind of things you can't describe. I can't put my finger on exactly what the minor problems are... I'm probably nit-picking.

Anyway, thanks all for viewing my thread:)
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So Front Row 2 is there? Automatically? I had to shoe-horn Front Row 1 onto my PB G4, and the one thing that's given me pause about updating to Leopard is the potential loss of Front Row. So this isn't an issue? (I'm still struggling with the issue that Apple has having an Apple Remote as a requirement for Front Row to install...)
It sure does. FrontRow 2 is indeed impressive. Works great on my 12" PB. Enjoy it!

By the way, Front Row is no longer a frontend for iTunes, DVD player, iPhoto, etc. It actually uses Leopard's core media browser which is why it's so dang fast.
 
It sure does. FrontRow 2 is indeed impressive. Works great on my 12" PB. Enjoy it!

By the way, Front Row is no longer a frontend for iTunes, DVD player, iPhoto, etc. It actually uses Leopard's core media browser which is why it's so dang fast.

Well, I like the new look of Front Row, but I've come across a serious issue with it, in my mind. One of the best things about Front Row, IMO, was that it remembered where I stopped watching a show. This was a brilliant thing! But now, having installed Leopard on my Mini (backing up my PB before installing it there), I've discovered that FR2 no longer does this. I'm terribly disappointed by this short coming. I hope that they'll release a FR2.1 very quickly to correct this.
 
Well, I like the new look of Front Row, but I've come across a serious issue with it, in my mind. One of the best things about Front Row, IMO, was that it remembered where I stopped watching a show. This was a brilliant thing! But now, having installed Leopard on my Mini (backing up my PB before installing it there), I've discovered that FR2 no longer does this. I'm terribly disappointed by this short coming. I hope that they'll release a FR2.1 very quickly to correct this.
I completely agree. Another thing I miss is having music play when I exited FR. In FR2 it just stops. Kind of crappy if you are cooking dinner and listening to music via FR and someone IM's you.
 
this is probably a stupid question but....

if I do a full backup and then erase and fresh install, can I just drag my application icons from my old applications folder to the new one or do I have to actually reinstall all my apps?

-thanks
 
Leopard on Powerbook

I currently have loaded os X Leopard on a powerbook G4, and all i can say its running great! If you have any questions please ask and I will be more than happy to help to the best of my knowledge. I will be checking this forum more regularly starting tomorrow. Right now, its running on a

17 in powerbook G4
1.5 GHZ
80 GB HDD
1.5 Gig RAM

everything, including time machine, is running just fine. Spaces is just a little slow, more that its not as fluid as it could be, but works just fine. If you have any question let me know!

I read this forum and then decided to install, so Thank you Admin for all your answers to your experience.
 
Upgrade Path to Leopard

Hi guys, I see that the PPC G4 platform is quite capable to get Leopard up and running... But now I'm looking for information on how to perform a clean upgrade. For what i have read online, most problems arise from doing an upgrade rather than a clean install, which is fair enough. What I'm looking for is regarding:

1) Backing up/Ghosting my current machine, so that in the worst case scenario, i can go back to what i had before the upgrade

2) A link where they a have a step by step guide on installing Leopard

3) A restore guide to get your iLife Apps running again like they were before the upgrade as well as your standard Mac Apps (Mail, Calendar, safari, etc)

Thanks for the help :)
 
Hi guys, I see that the PPC G4 platform is quite capable to get Leopard up and running... But now I'm looking for information on how to perform a clean upgrade. For what i have read online, most problems arise from doing an upgrade rather than a clean install, which is fair enough. What I'm looking for is regarding:

1) Backing up/Ghosting my current machine, so that in the worst case scenario, i can go back to what i had before the upgrade

2) A link where they a have a step by step guide on installing Leopard

3) A restore guide to get your iLife Apps running again like they were before the upgrade as well as your standard Mac Apps (Mail, Calendar, safari, etc)

Thanks for the help :)

Andy,

1. In terms of Backing UP/Ghost to be on the safe side, i would suggest Carbon Copy Cloner(CCC), which is a freeware, and recently upgraded. If you clone to a external drive with it, then what you can to is restore your drive just as it was before anything happened. You would need to be able to run Disk Utility program off of a Boot. in which the Leopard install DVD, Tiger Install DVD, or create with a freeware app called Das Boot. Then you could just go into Disk utility and run the Restore tab Function, using your backup as source and your formated drive as destination. (the Help in CCC explains it nicely)

2. For installing Leopard, I would suggest Doing an Archive and Install, as what is what I did, and It works Great. The install instructions is to just pick "options" in the install, and Archive and Install, while preserving Account settings.

3. If you use the Carbon Copy Cloner, then you will receive everything just like it was, not deal with restoring piece by piece. So the life remains in iLife. Read the help in CCC and you will see how it all happens.

As another piece of advice, while CCC is good for back up. I would make "hard copy" backups(meaning DVDs) of what you love the most....pics,music,documents, before trying all this fancy stuff. Moving gigs upon gigs of data on a hard can lead to heat up and crashes (rare but possible), and that when you need the data the most!)

Hopefully this helps.

Das Boot - http://www.subrosasoft.com/OSXSoftware/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=200&products_id=193

Carbon Copy Cloner - http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html

If you have any other questions let me know...i will try my best
 
I noticed a big difference upgrading my 450 mhz Sawtooth from Panther to Leopard.

Faster launching of apps, faster navigating the finder (time to open a window for example) as well as icon previews almost appearing instantly are a big plus. Quicklook is fantastic, I no longer need to wait for Preview to slowly launch to quickly view a photo.

Cover flow even works quite well!

Spaces, stacks and any other eye candy are a bit laggy though.

Man hearing this, I cant wait to install leopard on my iBook G3..

Sorry to say, but I don't think Leopard was 'compiled' for G3's :(

EDIT: I remember reading that the developer version could be installed on a G3 by changing the installer files, but then read somewhere else that the official release won't even be compiled for the G3. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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