It is not even released and you just got off the bus. You are losing credibility with each new uninformed post.
What kind of response do you think he is going to get? You are the one acting pathetic.
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Leopard, overpriced patch?
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It is not even released and you just got off the bus. You are losing credibility with each new uninformed post.
What kind of response do you think he is going to get? You are the one acting pathetic.
By mentioning that people have a right to post things which aren't mindlessly pro-Apple?
luker made a post, learned some things, and has been very responsive to suggestions. And if, after all of that, he still thought Leopard wasn't worth $129 to him, then he'd be entitled to having that opinion without being subject to a ton of fanboy counter-flaming.
I don't believe this to be true.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64_bit
If given the choice I'm taking a properly designed (minimum of bottlenecks) 64-bit platform over a 32-bit platform everytime.
Very well put!!!!
I would add that I have one ibook that runs 10.4 and an iMac that runs 10.3, and another old iMac that runs 10.2. All three run fine, of course the 10.2 is slow, and actually the 10.3 is faster at many things than my iBook at 10.4 despite the iMac being two years older than the iBook. I have run into some issues with some things not running on the 10.2, but most of that is probably due to me not going to the trouble to update things as my kids just use it to play games online, type, etc. If they come across something that won't run I just let them use the other iMac.
But I have never run into anything I use that won't run on my 10.3 iMac.
I will be upgrading to 10.5 when it gets to 10.5.3 or 10.5.4 so a few bugs get worked out. Since that will be 6 months at least I would say if you are looking for a mostly bug free OS then wait until then to get your upgrade if you are going to get 10.5.
Thanks for keeping a positive attitude despite many jumping to the troll name calling crap. I hate trolls like most others...but don't jump to that conclusion until you know for sure...words can be misintrepreted so easily...
-luker
10.5 Leopard is to 10.4 Tiger, as Windows Vista is to Windows XP.
Actually, probably more so as there will be tangible benefits of 10.5.
10.5 Leopard is to 10.4 Tiger, as Windows Vista is to Windows XP.
Actually, probably more so as there will be tangible benefits of 10.5.
Well what exactly are you looking for? I keep reading people state that "xxx OS isn't worth it to me" yet they don't state what "is" worth it. Hell I'm not going to disagree to vehemently because one's opinion is their opinion.
The question with OS updates always revolves around relative worth. I'd love to see more frank discussion about what features are expected and their monetary value. It gives me an idea about what people are looking at.
I hope to see some improved interface elements at NAB in Final Cut. I am not a video editor, I just want to see if it will take advantage of Leopard's Core Animation. I believe Core Animation will be one of the most exciting elements of Leopard.
Then don't buy it and close this thread. I for one will purchase Leopard the moment it's available for (pre-)order.
feature expected? if the new OS can finish my work 50% faster, if the new OS can run windows games without extra hack, if the New OS can do real 3D UI, if the new OS can emulate simple windows environment for some rarely used, but important windows apps. those are all enough reasons for me to get it.
I don't care if it can make a widget from browser. or so called features that I can find in 3rd party apps.
That's exactly what I was saying. The fact is that a very small number of applications can actually make good use of a 64-bit address space, at least for the moment -- think scientific applications or high-end content creation.
True, but perhaps he could have used better wording. I can't speak for anyone else, but posting something that's opinion (and an opinion based on lack of knowledge or inaccuracy) as fact does little to help. If he had simply asked about Leopard, then wondered if it would be worth the money, it would have been a different situation. Most of us have been trying to be patient though, and that being said, having read the entire thread, things have gone better than I expected them to when I read the title.
Maybe I've been spending too much time in the Political Forums.
oh god forbid he offend someone by being underinformed about something that there isnt a whole ton of knowledge about yet.
let me give some of you a little advice: you have -zero- right to never be offended, it happens. if you dont like the post you can just leave it, just like if he doesnt think leopard is worth it, he can skip it.
in fact i would go so far to say that some of the people in this thread should be moderated for blatantly flaming someone for expressing their concern that the feature set of an unreleased OS ***MIGHT*** not be worth the total cost.
he didnt walk into the thread proclaiming the OS is some worthless pile of junk. he was polite and posed his issue, and people jumped all over him. i swear if you aren't 100% pro mac on these forums you are looked at like youre the devil.
let me give some of you a little advice: you have -zero- right to never be offended, it happens. if you dont like the post you can just leave it, just like if he doesnt think leopard is worth it, he can skip it.
in fact i would go so far to say that some of the people in this thread should be moderated for blatantly flaming someone for expressing their concern that the feature set of an unreleased OS ***MIGHT*** not be worth the total cost.
he didnt walk into the thread proclaiming the OS is some worthless pile of junk. he was polite and posed his issue, and people jumped all over him. i swear if you aren't 100% pro mac on these forums you are looked at like youre the devil.
A lot of people don't read most of what's written in the thread. Sometimes not even reading the whole first post. So they see a title called "Leopard, overpriced patch" along with a couple of inaccuracies and (what some of us see as) not very valid complaints, and they get defensive. I agree that some people have been a bit harsh, and maybe should have read a little closer, but I don't get why so many people are defending either. Maybe I glossed over the really bad flames, I didn't really notice. I think most of us have been pretty civil. For those who haven't, phooey on them, that's their problem and the mods will deal accordingly. For the newbies, a good lesson in flame bait, and what not to do if you have some questions.
And as for thinking we're all zealots, first of all that's a straw man argument, but second of all, have you seen the thread about Leopard being held back? Or the Finder complaint threads? Or the mini Tower request threads? Or anything on .Mac? Sure, there are some fanatics who will defend most of what Apple does, but if you name your thread something like what the OP did in a Mac lovers forum, what do you expect?
Sure, there are some fanatics who will defend most of what Apple does, but if you name your thread something like what the OP did in a Mac lovers forum, what do you expect?
To give the OP some credit, s/he put a ? at the end of the title-
so the title is not a statement that it IS a patch...but a question...however I believe the original post did basically say s/he thought it was a patch. So that negates the ? in the title.
(there, now the above text (mine) is a post with no real value!)
sorry to wast your time!
Well, it was still a little inflammatory. As was the first post. But if I was worried about my time being wasted this week, I wouldn't have clicked on this thread.
Well, it was still a little inflammatory. As was the first post. But if I was worried about my time being wasted this week, I wouldn't have clicked on this thread.
I agree the first post was iinflammatory a bit...but what does 'it' refer to (the title?) in your first sentence?
I think your requirements are a touch on the exotic side, but I will not and cannot invalidate them (as they are your needs). That said, I doubt that the new OS will be 50% faster, however Apple software updates tend to run faster than previous releases on the same hardware. On the subject of windows compatibility, Mac OS updates also tend to have more windows compatibility with each release.
New Toys, I somewhat agree with you there. I like some of them, but I feel that too much attention is placed upon them from time to time. I am interested in this "Time Machine" backup program though, I am not interested in the "special Effects", however the snap back functionality appears to be well integrated, and would simplify my backup procedure greatly.
Yeah, the title. The first post, and some of the ones after that too. Not that it matters now, because it definitely won't be coming out a month after he bought his Mac.