Let's guess the feature Apple is saving for iOS 7 on iPhone 5S

[martinocando]

You can have a blinking light when a message comes in

Is the flash that lights when a message comes in, if you activate the feature in accessibility. Although I use it, is never been a replacement for a BB or samsung notification led, which just blinks, when you have network connection, or changes color if you received a new message.

Now, having said that, I can tell that I lived with more stress when I had a BB. I just glanced to the BB case from time to time, and if the LED was blinking red (instead of green), I felt an urge to check the message.

Sincerely, I prefer not to have that feature.

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I've always wished the white square on the home button would "breathe" the way the power LED on MacBooks used to.

Now, THAT is a cool detail I'd love to have.

 

[KillaMac]

Wouldn't be a first time they have done it this way. I was actually expecting it.

 

[Parise]

Who wants a fingerprint scanner?

I agree with this. Somehow, though, their marketing team will make everyone wonder how the heck they ever got by without one. It'll be magical.

 

[Menel]

I wish:
dual led 12 megapx camera
NFC for wireless charging
LED for notifications like s3, s4 has
More resistant against screen cracks

This doesn't make sense, these are unrelated.

- iWatch support; updated apps and notification preferences to support iWatch
- iTV support; updated Remote app to support additional iTV features
- Allowing apps to replace default applications
- More live icons, but still not open to app developers
- Siri enhancements

These don't sound like device specific features.

Who wants a fingerprint scanner?

Maybe me? It depends on how it works, is it a new revelation in finger print scanners that dramatically increases usability and security. I'm open to see what Apple comes up with.

My bets.
- Significantly improved camera. The 5's camera was hardly touched. Does this mean 12-13MP? Does it mean larger sensor for low light. Does it mean a second tungsten flash, or some combination of the above.

- Fingerprint recognition.

No NFC.

There's not a lot honestly I can imagine, nor hope for. We have more CPU, GPU, and Cellular/WIFI speed than we can use at this point in a mobile form factor.

 

[fivedots]

I agree with this. Somehow, though, their marketing team will make everyone wonder how the heck they ever got by without one. It'll be magical.

IF, and I stress IF, they implement a fingerprint scanner, it would have to be done right. There's no way it could be a separate areas of the phone. It would have to be integrated within the home button and when I wake my phone using the button, it would have to instantly unlock the phone when it recognizes me. This would be a huge improvement over passcodes which interrupt your workflow.

That said - I don't think it's coming at all.

 

[iKaushal]

iPhone 5 S - where S will stand for Snappier Safari

 

[sportsfrk214]

I mean they have to differentiate the iphone 5S from the iphone 5 significantly enough to make their customers want to upgrade or buy the phone. If not then most people will just settle for the i5

Apple doesn't care about differentiating between the iPhone 5 and 5S. They care about the differentiation between the 4S and 5S. We're all Apple fanatics so we're more likely to upgrade every year. But that vast vast majority of the general public upgrades their phone every 2 years and Apple knows this. That's why the newest iPhone isn't usually all that alluring to owners of the previous generation, but it's very alluring to owners of the even older generations. And for the small minority (which on this board is the vast majority) that do upgrade every year, if you're willing to shell out that much every year for the latest and greatest you're likely going to buy it no matter what it is. Apple may lose a couple customers here and there but their sales prove that this mindset is working for them.

 

[EJ8]

NFC

12 mega pixel camera

Improved flash

I don't think you will ever see NFC on an Apple phone. The technology is dying. And probably in part because Apple didn't adopt.

 

[Menneisyys2]

60fps video recording. Calling it now.

Wrong. Available at least on the iPhone 5, albeit at a lowish quality (binned mode). See my very thorough report at https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1602171/

HOWEVER! There is a chance the last, with the iPhone 5, four entries returned by AVCaptureDevice.formats, all being larger than Full HD, will actually work on the 5S, resulting in true sensor oversampling, meaning dramatically increased low-light performance, wider FoV etc. They don't work on the iPhone5, as opposed to the 720p60 mode.

 

[spacehog371]

Drag and drop iTunes files would be a game changer just in principle alone. Would sell a good chunk of people.

They already offer drag and drop through iTunes, you just have to turn it on...

 

[Menneisyys2]

Camera software features that will take advantage of the new and improved 12 megapixel camera

If you meant the built-in stock Camera app, there surely won't be new settings. Heck, I don't think they'll even make (the/a) 60 fps recording mode(s) settable in there.

If you meant the API, they're already there, as I've also explained in all my three in-depth iOS7 Camera 7 API articles here at MR. Based on the API, there won't be anything radically different in the 5S from the iPhone 5, "only" probably being able to properly oversample the sensor (a' la Nokia 808) and/or provide proper 720p60 / 1080p60 support. Everything else you can find in the API as newly added works on the iPhone 5.

 

[Parise]

IF, and I stress IF, they implement a fingerprint scanner, it would have to be done right. There's no way it could be a separate areas of the phone. It would have to be integrated within the home button and when I wake my phone using the button, it would have to instantly unlock the phone when it recognizes me. This would be a huge improvement over passcodes which interrupt your workflow.

That said - I don't think it's coming at all.

Agreed. Although, dont know if thats enough to make me take the leap from the 5. It would be sweet if it was integrated into the home button.

 

[C DM]

Is the flash that lights when a message comes in, if you activate the feature in accessibility. Although I use it, is never been a replacement for a BB or samsung notification led, which just blinks, when you have network connection, or changes color if you received a new message.

Now, having said that, I can tell that I lived with more stress when I had a BB. I just glanced to the BB case from time to time, and if the LED was blinking red (instead of green), I felt an urge to check the message.

Sincerely, I prefer not to have that feature.

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Now, THAT is a cool detail I'd love to have.

On the other hand, missing something important can be worse. And most of us have gotten to the point where we have the urge to actually pick up and wake up the phone to see if we missed anything, rather than simply glancing at it.

 

[egoistaxx9]

nfc

multi colored flash

improved camera

 

[Menneisyys2]

On the other hand, missing something important can be worse. And most of us have gotten to the point where we have the urge to actually pick up and wake up the phone to see if we missed anything, rather than simply glancing at it.

Exactly. These notification LED's are great help. (BTW, they're present on a lot more platforms; for example, on Windows Mobile. The latter has been of great help on clamshell devices like the HTC Universal - no need to open the device to see whether you have new SMS'es etc.)

It's a pity Apple doesn't want to implement them.

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multi colored flash

Don't let those red + white LED's make you think you'll be able to set any color (or, while staying white, any color temperature). The red LED may be only for video warning light and/or pre-focus assisting.

 

[haaX]

No NFC.

I'll be very suprised if they provide NFC to the iPhone 5S. I think Apple will add NFC when they're ready to roll out a complete solution to make a go on the area of mobile payments - and I don't think they're ready just yet.

They have the ultimate position to establish themselves on mobile payments. My self, I hate paying as is today, it's just too much hassle. Card, cash, pin codes, yuck. Make it easy - please. Users are ready for it.

The rumoured iPad payment station may be a sign that they're moving into this area - if they roll out a complete payment system that would very well complement easier solutions such as using existing infrastructure (phones, tables) by just adding some sort of add-on to make business able to receive payments off customers.

Once that's in place - roll on NFC and they're on.

A major battle between banks, telecoms, payment provides such as VISA and MasterCard, tech companies such as Apple and Google, as well as the odd start up (which won't succeed unless someone large buys their tech) will commence really soon.

Looks to be an interesting battle!

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I agree with this. Somehow, though, their marketing team will make everyone wonder how the heck they ever got by without one. It'll be magical.

True that - but in what areas? Passwords are handled by the keychain, unlocking the phone is easy as it is (isn't it?)... Protecting the phone on startup may be one thing, but... is that enough?

But I second that - they've surprised us before

 

[Giuly]

Drag and drop iTunes files would be a game changer just in principle alone. Would sell a good chunk of people.

I did this on the iPhone 3G, where's the problem? Under the "Apps" tab in iTunes, you can drag and drop files for Apps that can handle files to and from the iPhone all day. Or do you mean the stuff you buy from iTunes? That usually downloads to all authorized devices automagically.

OP: Blast Processing.

 

[TitsLegendary]

Who wants a fingerprint scanner?

Not this guy. Just saying.

 

[179202]

Drag and drop iTunes files would be a game changer just in principle alone. Would sell a good chunk of people.

You can already do that...go to the phone, click 'apps' and scroll down. You can drag and drop files off and onto the phone there...

 

[TitsLegendary]

If you meant the built-in stock Camera app, there surely won't be new settings. Heck, I don't think they'll even make (the/a) 60 fps recording mode(s) settable in there.

If you meant the API, they're already there, as I've also explained in all my three in-depth iOS7 Camera 7 API articles here at MR. Based on the API, there won't be anything radically different in the 5S from the iPhone 5, "only" probably being able to properly oversample the sensor (a' la Nokia 808) and/or provide proper 720p60 / 1080p60 support. Everything else you can find in the API as newly added works on the iPhone 5.

With the rumor that was just outed today, I'm hoping for 120fps in either 720p or 1080p on the 5S.
Also, quick reply to iMessage but probably not quick compose unless it's added to notification center.

 

[gingerbloke]

I don't think you will ever see NFC on an Apple phone. The technology is dying. And probably in part because Apple didn't adopt.

NFC is the Blu Ray of mobile tech - "why?!"

 

[0000757]

Lets be realistic here:

Something like "quick reply" or "iWatch connectivity" or "iTV support" or "Siri improvements" or something to that effect would in no realistic way be something that would be exclusive to the next gen phone on iOS 7. If these were features, they would be added to the iPhone 5 as well. iWatch/iTV and Siri stuff being exclusive to the next gen iPhone would make no sense, considering there are already two other phones that support Siri and why would you lock your product connectivity if they're all running the same OS and all being sold at the same time??

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So, something realistic to be exclusive to iOS 7 on iPhone 5S? Probably nothing. Nothing HAS to be exclusive at all. Probably some camera features to take control of the rumored updated camera sensor and dual flash. I'd expect a Night Mode or maybe this no "Mogul" setting.

There's also the possibility that if this "fingerprint scanner" technology is added (which I doubt it will be), it could be tied in with phone security. I can see it being used with Passbook or NFC payments if they add NFC.

It's possible that the iPhone 5S will exclusively support AirDrop with macs that support 802.11ac wireless.

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NFC is the Blu Ray of mobile tech - "why?!"

Blu-Ray kicked off very well actually. Almost all disc media is being replaced with Blu-Ray. The PS3, PS4, and Xbox One all use Blu-Ray as their main disc media. In fact, Apple is the only hardware company that doesn't offer Blu-Ray optical drives instead of a standard DVD one.

NFC on the other hand, just isn't as useful as planned. Things like WiFi Direct are more useful for sharing files, as evidenced with AirDrop and Galaxy Group whatever, because it allows you to share more than one thing without bumping phones. NFC Mobile payments are poorly adopted, meanwhile many retailers are in full support for features like Passbook and mobile coupons instead.

I think that saying "NFC is the Blu Ray of mobile tech" is unfair, because at this point in Blu-Ray's life it was already achieving widespread usage. NFC is probably not going to take off, at least not for very long.

 

[nosnhojm]

So, something realistic to be exclusive to iOS 7 on iPhone 5S?

So there's two questions here:
1. Will there be an exclusive feature for iPhone 5S
2. Are there yet unannounced features for iOS7

I imagine that #2 is quite possible, since iOS7 development has generally been rushed. They wouldn't want to announce features which might not make the final cut (due to time constraints).

 

[gingerbloke]

Lets be realistic here:

Something like "quick reply" or "iWatch connectivity" or "iTV support" or "Siri improvements" or something to that effect would in no realistic way be something that would be exclusive to the next gen phone on iOS 7. If these were features, they would be added to the iPhone 5 as well. iWatch/iTV and Siri stuff being exclusive to the next gen iPhone would make no sense, considering there are already two other phones that support Siri and why would you lock your product connectivity if they're all running the same OS and all being sold at the same time??

--- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---

So, something realistic to be exclusive to iOS 7 on iPhone 5S? Probably nothing. Nothing HAS to be exclusive at all. Probably some camera features to take control of the rumored updated camera sensor and dual flash. I'd expect a Night Mode or maybe this no "Mogul" setting.

There's also the possibility that if this "fingerprint scanner" technology is added (which I doubt it will be), it could be tied in with phone security. I can see it being used with Passbook or NFC payments if they add NFC.

It's possible that the iPhone 5S will exclusively support AirDrop with macs that support 802.11ac wireless.

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Blu-Ray kicked off very well actually. Almost all disc media is being replaced with Blu-Ray. The PS3, PS4, and Xbox One all use Blu-Ray as their main disc media. In fact, Apple is the only hardware company that doesn't offer Blu-Ray optical drives instead of a standard DVD one.

NFC on the other hand, just isn't as useful as planned. Things like WiFi Direct are more useful for sharing files, as evidenced with AirDrop and Galaxy Group whatever, because it allows you to share more than one thing without bumping phones. NFC Mobile payments are poorly adopted, meanwhile many retailers are in full support for features like Passbook and mobile coupons instead.

I think that saying "NFC is the Blu Ray of mobile tech" is unfair, because at this point in Blu-Ray's life it was already achieving widespread usage. NFC is probably not going to take off, at least not for very long.

Okay, I admit that wasn't the best comparison.

Want a giggle? My friend, who is Galaxy <Anything> crazy, brought his S3 round here, and spent 15 *minutes* looking through the OS for a way to share a few simple JPEGs with me... Talk about convoluted - I keep re-iterating to him - "Email is the simplest and quickest sharing method" - he disagrees, but continues searching for 15 mins, to "prove" his beloved S3 isn't the failure which it is, at a lot of things (note: Not all - it makes a great shield!)

 

[0000757]

Okay, I admit that wasn't the best comparison.

Want a giggle? My friend, who is Galaxy <Anything> crazy, brought his S3 round here, and spent 15 *minutes* looking through the OS for a way to share a few simple JPEGs with me... Talk about convoluted

I was actually surprised to learn that the GS4 actually has an AirDrop like feature in it (Galaxy Group Share or something like that). It's never made apparent to the user and is hidden in the OS.

I bet once iOS 7 hits consumers, Samsung is going to make a quick software update to bring that to the forefront.