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Let's guess the feature Apple is saving for iOS 7 on iPhone 5S

chrf097 said:
I was actually surprised to learn that the GS4 actually has an AirDrop like feature in it (Galaxy Group Share or something like that). It's never made apparent to the user and is hidden in the OS.

I bet once iOS 7 hits consumers, Samsung is going to make a quick software update to bring that to the forefront. :D
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"It's never made apparent to the user and is hidden in the OS."

Gold is useless until mined ;)
 
I'd like to see a support for a second SIM as an eSIM not a physical SIM card.
Apple launching a portal in iTunes store to buy eSIM's from around the world.

So if you travel you could keep SIM card in your phone but buy a Local carrier data only eSIM, so you can keep using Maps, iMessage and email without needing to find wifi.

Then if you go to a number of countries or even just different regions in the same country the phone would switch out the eSIM to get the best results for the area.
 
- I'm gonna go with 120fps recording
- 13MPx Camera
- Fingerprint Scanner


These are features I think are specifically for the 5S, "Enhanced Dictation" from 10.9 I think may be available to devices released in 2012, like iPhone 5, iPod touch 5th gen, iPad mini, and iPad 4 (Another exclusive for those devices since they have one exclusive feature so far from this release AirDrop) I also think LinkedIn, and 60fps video recording and Quick Reply from Mavericks will come in a future iOS 7 build, or 7.1 Quick Reply is probably coming when we get our Share widgets back in Notification Center. (Beta 4 maybe or 5)
 
haaX said:
I'll be very suprised if they provide NFC to the iPhone 5S. I think Apple will add NFC when they're ready to roll out a complete solution to make a go on the area of mobile payments - and I don't think they're ready just yet.

They have the ultimate position to establish themselves on mobile payments. My self, I hate paying as is today, it's just too much hassle. Card, cash, pin codes, yuck. Make it easy - please. Users are ready for it.

The rumoured iPad payment station may be a sign that they're moving into this area - if they roll out a complete payment system that would very well complement easier solutions such as using existing infrastructure (phones, tables) by just adding some sort of add-on to make business able to receive payments off customers.

Once that's in place - roll on NFC and they're on.

A major battle between banks, telecoms, payment provides such as VISA and MasterCard, tech companies such as Apple and Google, as well as the odd start up (which won't succeed unless someone large buys their tech) will commence really soon.

Looks to be an interesting battle!

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True that - but in what areas? Passwords are handled by the keychain, unlocking the phone is easy as it is (isn't it?)... Protecting the phone on startup may be one thing, but... is that enough?

But I second that - they've surprised us before :)
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And Phone - Unlock PIN - find and launch app - Unlock PIN - Select payment method - Auth - Tap

Is any easier?

Doesn't get much easier than Card swipe and PIN/sign.
 
tymaster50 said:
60fps video recording. Calling it now.
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nope, they already announced 60fps rec at WWDC if I'm not mistaken.

I really want fingerprint scanning, but all leaks so far tend to show improvements for camera, which is great, but should not be main feature :(
 
gingerbloke said:
NFC is the Blu Ray of mobile tech - "why?!"
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My opinion is based on history and the progress (or lack of it) that NFC has made in the tech world. Below are a few articles that support this feeling. With that said I wouldn't be totally shocked if Apple has NFC in its back pocket waiting for the right time. But I'd be much less shocked to hear they are going to go their own way in near field and payment solutions.

http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/12/nfc/
http://www.mainstreet.com/article/smart-spending/technology/nfc-dead-long-live-nfc-0
http://www.informationweek.com/byte...ple-or-nfc-the-bigger-loser-with-ip/240007606
 
I don't understand people's dislike of NFC. Especially if it's used for charging.
And whatever the method for using it for payments, I'm sure apple (or some jailbreak tweak developer) would come up with a quick and easy solution.
Something on control centre maybe, to activate payment mode.
I currently have a Barclaycard contactless payment sticker on the back of my iPhone. It's much easier than pulling out my wallet, pulling out the card, putting my wallet away or balancing it/other hand, paying, putting card back, putting wallet back, leave.
Now it's just stretch out arm/hand (cos I'm using my phone on the queue anyway), pay, leave.

And there is world outside of the US ;-) contactless payments are growing over here in the UK, with more and more retailers offering contactless. I even saw a Tesco (big supermarket in the Uk) self/fast service machine with a contactless payment symbol.

For that, I want NFC. Also with a fingerprint sensor to make it more secure, that'd be nice.

That said, the comment at WWDC about bumping phones, makes me think apple won't be touching it in the near future calendar (see what I did there, NFC ;-) )
 
Menel said:
And Phone - Unlock PIN - find and launch app - Unlock PIN - Select payment method - Auth - Tap

Is any easier?

Doesn't get much easier than Card swipe and PIN/sign.
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Grab phone (which you use far more than your wallet) - swipe "pay" - unlock pin - hold to RFID reader - done - put phone back to your pocket. Or even (for smaller payments, i.e. under $20) - put phone to RFID reader - done.

That's far more easy than find wallet, find card, find the right card, swipe, card is demagnetized, use chip, pin, put card back into the wallet (which you are holding in your other hand whilst paying), putting the wallet back...

Add multiple cards, skimming problems, renewal date on cards, different pin codes. Don't get me started on cash...
 
haaX said:
Grab phone (which you use far more than your wallet) - swipe "pay" - unlock pin - hold to RFID reader - done - put phone back to your pocket. Or even (for smaller payments, i.e. under $20) - put phone to RFID reader - done.

That's far more easy than find wallet, find card, find the right card, swipe, card is demagnetized, use chip, pin, put card back into the wallet (which you are holding in your other hand whilst paying), putting the wallet back...

Add multiple cards, skimming problems, renewal date on cards, different pin codes. Don't get me started on cash...
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That sounds scary.
 
Menel said:
That sounds scary.
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It isn't. Several banks have tested this out, albeit only with RFID added onto the regular card. Once you reach a certain limit in total shopped without PIN, you'll have to enter the pin. You could even add a confirm button upon payment. It's not a problem - if/when they brings this to the market they'll provide a secure and user friendly way to do these things.

My entire bank account available from a piece of plastic card? Ooaaa... that sounds scary....
 
Bobby Corwen said:
Drag and drop iTunes files would be a game changer just in principle alone. Would sell a good chunk of people.
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WoW! just wow.

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r-m said:
I don't understand people's dislike of NFC. Especially if it's used for charging.
And whatever the method for using it for payments, I'm sure apple (or some jailbreak tweak developer) would come up with a quick and easy solution.
Something on control centre maybe, to activate payment mode.
I currently have a Barclaycard contactless payment sticker on the back of my iPhone. It's much easier than pulling out my wallet, pulling out the card, putting my wallet away or balancing it/other hand, paying, putting card back, putting wallet back, leave.
Now it's just stretch out arm/hand (cos I'm using my phone on the queue anyway), pay, leave.

And there is world outside of the US ;-) contactless payments are growing over here in the UK, with more and more retailers offering contactless. I even saw a Tesco (big supermarket in the Uk) self/fast service machine with a contactless payment symbol.

For that, I want NFC. Also with a fingerprint sensor to make it more secure, that'd be nice.

That said, the comment at WWDC about bumping phones, makes me think apple won't be touching it in the near future calendar (see what I did there, NFC ;-) )
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WTH are you talking about NFC and wireless charging!? BTW, NFC is USELESS!
 
I think there will be nothing amazingly new coming up, more spec bumps.
Fingerprint scanner would be nice, camera improvements are quite likely, new processor is almost certain. I am pretty sure NFC will not be on the list (yet or maybe never), the system is far from mature and still has serious security flaws.
 
I apologize for my comment earlier guise.

I was incorrect.

Thank you to the seven of you who pointed out my error via quote notifications.
 
I think that there may be a chance that fingerprint scanner may come to iPhone 5S. What can be a 'hint' imo is that Slide to Unlock button was removed from a lock screen. Best position for a sensor is home button, you click on it and then slide to unlock with a thumb, no matter if you are lefty or righty, that sounds just brilliant and simple. Home button doesn't shatter if your glass shatters.

Another thing that can come (but I don't think it will this year) is IGZO screen, with less battery consumption. iPhone REALLY needs to upgrade battery life, the other flagship phones have it nearly or even more than 1.5 times longer battery life.

And of course how can we forget a LiquidMetal... Isn't it about time for Apple to do something with it?

EDIT:
A7 chip with Cortex-A15 or something similar to it, will provide a better battery life too.
And better battery life can be a big reason for many people to switch to a newer version.

And how about Parallax 3D Flyover maps that can only be handled with a newer chip? (Maybe that API for games too, and maybe that is why Infinity Blade Dungeons isn't releasing yet, it waits for that feature...better not to go that deep in speculations XD) It may sounds pretty silly, but it would gain wow-factor.
 
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So the topic is "Let's guess the feature Apple is saving for iOS 7 on iPhone 5S". and the forum is "iOS > iOS7"

So why are most people answering with what hardware-features the iPhone 5S will have?

The question is what software feature will be exclusive for the 5S and will need a jailbreak to use on older devices.

Like Siri. All software, yet worked only on the iPhone 4S. A move by Apple to push people into buying a new iPhone.

So: Let's guess the feature Apple is saving for iOS 7 on iPhone 5S.
 
BlankStar said:
So the topic is "Let's guess the feature Apple is saving for iOS 7 on iPhone 5S". and the forum is "iOS > iOS7"

So why are most people answering with what hardware-features the iPhone 5S will have?

The question is what software feature will be exclusive for the 5S and will need a jailbreak to use on older devices.

Like Siri. All software, yet worked only on the iPhone 4S. A move by Apple to push people into buying a new iPhone.

So: Let's guess the feature Apple is saving for iOS 7 on iPhone 5S.
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4S had revolutionary and significantly higher CPU capability and new audio processing hardware.
Was it necessary? Questionable. But none of us are the software/hardware engineers behind it to know.
 
haaX said:
Grab phone (which you use far more than your wallet) - swipe "pay" - unlock pin - hold to RFID reader - done - put phone back to your pocket. Or even (for smaller payments, i.e. under $20) - put phone to RFID reader - done.

That's far more easy than find wallet, find card, find the right card, swipe, card is demagnetized, use chip, pin, put card back into the wallet (which you are holding in your other hand whilst paying), putting the wallet back...

Add multiple cards, skimming problems, renewal date on cards, different pin codes. Don't get me started on cash...
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I had no idea that using a debit card was so difficult.:confused:
 
slffl said:
WoW! just wow.

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WTH are you talking about NFC and wireless charging!? BTW, NFC is USELESS!
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A little something like this:
http://www.nfcworld.com/2012/09/18/317898/renesas-launches-nfc-and-wireless-charging-combo/

Also, NFC is not useless. Travel cards, my car park pass, my employee card, my bank card, my credit card, my holiday home car park pass.
If I could use my phone to replace all those, my wallet wouldn't be so bulky. I don't see how that's useless. It's certainly not useless to me and many other people who have similar amounts of cards as me.
Siri is useless to me, because it struggle to understand my accent. Apple should never have included it on their devices, because I find it useless... ;)
 
3GS = Multitasking
4S = Siri
5S = Widgets

possibly a dashboard type of thing where spotlight use to be.. Quick reply would be nice :)
 
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