Lets say the new iPhone supports LTE

[Geckotek]

Whatever you call HSPA+, the ITU (which sets these standards) calls it 4G. It's hard to disagree with them.

They didn't originally call it 4G until T-Mobile and AT&T backed them into a corner by marketing their HSPA+ as 4G. The ITU has no way to enforce their definitions, so they were forced to give in to the pressure from the carriers.....stupid.

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I think I'll be buying the iPhone 5 unlocked at full retail price so I can enjoy TMobile's outstanding 4G LTE service for just $30 a month when you bring your own phone. You'd have to be an idiot not to.

That or require a reliable network with better coverage.

 

[Southernboyj]

They didn't originally call it 4G until T-Mobile and AT&T backed them into a corner by marketing their HSPA+ as 4G. The ITU has no way to enforce their definitions, so they were forced to give in to the pressure from the carriers.....stupid.

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That or require a reliable network with better coverage.

^^ This. Several of my family members have T-Mobile, I also had it from 2008-2010. The unlimited/no throttled deal sounds convincing, except if the network is too slow then its pointless. It would be like if our home networks charged by GB at a speed of 100 mbp/s down.. then AOL says "hey we have unlimited data for less!" and they use 56 kbp/s dial-up.

 

[BiggAW]

I think I'll be buying the iPhone 5 unlocked at full retail price so I can enjoy TMobile's outstanding 4G LTE service for just $30 a month when you bring your own phone. You'd have to be an idiot not to.

Good luck with that. T-Mobile doesn't have 4G. It should work with the AT&T one when it comes out though, with the interoperability on the AWS band.

^^ This. Several of my family members have T-Mobile, I also had it from 2008-2010. The unlimited/no throttled deal sounds convincing, except if the network is too slow then its pointless. It would be like if our home networks charged by GB at a speed of 100 mbp/s down.. then AOL says "hey we have unlimited data for less!" and they use 56 kbp/s dial-up.

T-Mobile doesn't have a speed issue. Their speeds are fantastic. The issue is that the coverage is horrendous, and doesn't cover many areas outside of the city and 'burbs. AT&T has decent nationwide coverage, at least falling back to halfway usable EDGE, while Verizon is going for 100% LTE on their network.

 

[aPple nErd]

the iphone 5 WILL support 4g lte. it has to. as for me, im sticking with verizon

 

[okwhatev]

Dammit..... I totally misread tmobile's 4G offering. Didn't know it wasn't 4G LTE. Crap. Oh well, I guess I'll remain on Straight Talk and AT&T's "4G" HSPA+ since I don't think 4G LTE will extend to their MVNOs. Damn.

 

[BiggAW]

Dammit..... I totally misread tmobile's 4G offering. Didn't know it wasn't 4G LTE. Crap. Oh well, I guess I'll remain on Straight Talk and AT&T's "4G" HSPA+ since I don't think 4G LTE will extend to their MVNOs. Damn.

T-Mobile's HSPA+ 42 is just as good as many LTE networks, the issue is that it doesn't cover very much, so if you travel at all, you'll be on EDGE or GPRS or roaming as soon as you leave the 'burbs.