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Let's tell cook We Want 17" MacBook Pro With Retina Display
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Says who? I can't find any sales figures but I'd be willing to bet it sold far more than the Mac Pro does.
I don't know about sales, but on the other hand, apple isn't about to kill off a profitable computer model, i.e., they're making money why kill it off.
Yes, there's a vocal minority here at MacRumors, that does not translate into consumer demand.
Just google it . Plenty of articles and the common reason is weak sales .
What makes you think the Mac Pro will be around much longer
Just google it . Plenty of articles and the common reason is weak sales .
What makes you think the Mac Pro will be around much longer
If they wanted to kill it they wouldn't bother with the recent redesign.
i suspect they would upset too many of they did not update a 2010 model and kill it. When I say kill it, we are talking a few years down the Line. Even the 2013 model is already showing its ago, will apple update soon?
I could also be completly wrong.
Nah i seriously doubt they will kill anytime in the next years. Also they havent update it because they are probably waiting for suitable intel cpus.
A 17" MBPr would be fantastic. It would be a damn sight thinner than the old model and capable of housing a fantastic battery setup.
I recently sold my 13' MBP 2011 model and bought a 17" 2009 model and still had £150 left in my pocket ( being unemployed this proved quite useful)
So now i have tons of screen real estate and can study without have to scroll about all over the place. For serious work a new 17" would be a godsend.
I recently sold my 13' MBP 2011 model and bought a 17" 2009 model and still had £150 left in my pocket ( being unemployed this proved quite useful)
So now i have tons of screen real estate and can study without have to scroll about all over the place. For serious work a new 17" would be a godsend.
Most people who need a bigger screen and a laptop just get an external monitor. That is what I do.
yes, even a really good quality IPS monitor is under $200 now, FHD 23". 2k res isnt that much more either. get the best of both worlds then. portable to move around, and large screen when you need it.
i used to buy 15"+ purely because of the screen resolution, but with the 13" rMBP i dont feel like i've lost anything moving to a smaller screen.
i used to buy 15"+ purely because of the screen resolution, but with the 13" rMBP i dont feel like i've lost anything moving to a smaller screen.
This.
I would like to see Apple replace the 13.3" with a bezel-less 14" and the 15.4" with a bezel-less 16". The form factor would be identical without the bezel. That would give us the rMB at 12" and the rMBP at 14" and 16".
Good points. I failed to count the PCI Express lanes. A 3rd Thunderbolt port will not be seen anytime soon.
I have one of the last MBP 17", with the faster processor and 2 SSDs
I'm a graphic designer and a DJ - it's perfect for me. For more intensive design work, I have an iMac with a big screen, but most of the time I can sit anywhere with my MBP and do my job. What's more, I can put it into a bag, go visit a client, and do real-time visualisations and modifications that just wouldn't work with a smaller screen.
Likewise for DJing, I can turn up at a venue, be set up within minutes, and have the screen real estate that allows me to control what I'm doing easily and quicky. In a venue environment, squinting into 15" just doesn't cut it by comparison.
I know people who work with movies, who view rushes in real time on their MBP 17s.
There are certainly many more uses for it - the jury seems to be out as to why it was discontinued: while many pointed at weak sales, this seems to have been largely speculation - I find the argument on component availability more convincing.
But even if sales weren't all that, the model still did (and still does with the the ones still being used) a wonderful sales job for Apple, for the whole of the rest of their line: wherever cool people were doing creative things, you'd see these very obvious Apple laptops being used. People would go "I want one, but can only afford the 15-inch (or the 13-inch)" and it would boost sales for those.
So I think it would be of great benefit to Apple to have the model as a part of the range - besides, it's not as if they would _lose money by producing it.
I'm a graphic designer and a DJ - it's perfect for me. For more intensive design work, I have an iMac with a big screen, but most of the time I can sit anywhere with my MBP and do my job. What's more, I can put it into a bag, go visit a client, and do real-time visualisations and modifications that just wouldn't work with a smaller screen.
Likewise for DJing, I can turn up at a venue, be set up within minutes, and have the screen real estate that allows me to control what I'm doing easily and quicky. In a venue environment, squinting into 15" just doesn't cut it by comparison.
I know people who work with movies, who view rushes in real time on their MBP 17s.
There are certainly many more uses for it - the jury seems to be out as to why it was discontinued: while many pointed at weak sales, this seems to have been largely speculation - I find the argument on component availability more convincing.
But even if sales weren't all that, the model still did (and still does with the the ones still being used) a wonderful sales job for Apple, for the whole of the rest of their line: wherever cool people were doing creative things, you'd see these very obvious Apple laptops being used. People would go "I want one, but can only afford the 15-inch (or the 13-inch)" and it would boost sales for those.
So I think it would be of great benefit to Apple to have the model as a part of the range - besides, it's not as if they would _lose money by producing it.
Yea because lugging around an external monitor with you on the road works perfectly
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Yes, you get it. Poor sales were NOT the reason they stopped making it. If that were the case, the Mac Pro would have been stopped long ago. Apple is the most profitable company in the world and their profit margin is insane. I seriously doubt they would take major losses on a 17 inch MBP. They did it for their fascination of making everything smaller and less user friendly for working professionals, although ironically their phones got bigger. Im willing to bet they ended the 17 because they couldnt get the supply of displays any longer, or at a price they wanted and ending it meant they could force people into paying top dollar for a rMBP 15. Said it before and I'll say it again. Almost every other major manufacturer offers at least one 17 inch laptop, many offer multiple. Its absurd Apple does not offer one.
Apple stopped offering the 17" MBP because in 2012 the cost of 17" Retina displays was unaffordable due to low yields. In 2015, 17" Retina displays are affordable, so Apple could introduce a 17" rMBP.
Apparently I already posted on this thread, but my opinion is that the 15" is already kind of bulky. Plenty portable if you need the extra horsepower but more weight than that...eh get an external monitor
Extra horsepower? A 2GB 750M doesn't cut it in 2015, thats two generations old already and there are plenty of laptops coming with 3-6GB graphics cards. Apple deems it more important to release an absurd little 2 pound laptop with no ports rather than give us a new MBP 15 or getting a new 17 out. I know Intel hasn't provided the quad core chips yet, but they could have at least bumped the outdated GPU. Oh and get an external monitor? People use laptops ON THE ROAD. Who wants to lug around an external monitor?
Extra horsepower? A 2GB 750M doesn't cut it in 2015, thats two generations old already and there are plenty of laptops coming with 3-6GB graphics cards. Apple deems it more important to release an absurd little 2 pound laptop with no ports rather than give us a new MBP 15 or getting a new 17 out. I know Intel hasn't provided the quad core chips yet, but they could have at least bumped the outdated GPU. Oh and get an external monitor? People use laptops ON THE ROAD. Who wants to lug around an external monitor?
Oh really? I Thought 2gb was a lot for graphics. Yeah I agree with this then.
I think Apple does this because of battery life.
2GB is enough for most people, however, in a MacBook with PRO in the name, they should be offering at least 3GB if not 4GB GPU option. This is why we need a 17 inch. They can keep the old, outdated 750 with 2GB in the 15s if they want but give us PROS who need it a 17 with a GTX 965 4GB
I missed this post before but I think you might be right. After more research, I think the MBP 17 was dropped because they could not make a retina version. The highest resolution I have seen on a 17 inch display has been 1920x1080. QHD has only made it to the 15 inch laptops, no 17 inch I have ever seen. The rMB will be 16:10, makes sense we will also see a 16:10 14 inch rMBP and a 16 inch could be doable as well.