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I missed this post before but I think you might be right. After more research, I think the MBP 17 was dropped because they could not make a retina version. The highest resolution I have seen on a 17 inch display has been 1920x1080. QHD has only made it to the 15 inch laptops, no 17 inch I have ever seen. The rMB will be 16:10, makes sense we will also see a 16:10 14 inch rMBP and a 16 inch could be doable as well.

MacBook 12": Streamlined, MacBook Air-esque vision of computing. Thin. Light. Affordable. Yet powerful (screen-wise). Integrated Iris graphics (2016 update) to support such a screen, with a Skylake processor.

MacBook Pro 14": The definitive MacBook. Performance. Light. Fantastic Retina-class screen. Portable yet powerful. In a smaller, lighter, thinner body, yet retaining the 15" screen in a 14" form factor (much like how the 12" is like the 13"). nVidia Maxwell-class: 970M. Upgraded cooling mechanism to support this new graphics card. All day battery life (Browsing, common usages.).

MacBook Pro 16": 4K screen. The previous cMBP 15"/rMBP 15" size (in terms of hardware size). nVidia Maxwell-class: 980M.

Following the desktop Macintosh distinction: Mac Mini. iMac. Mac Pro. MacBook. MacBook Pro. MacBook X.

*Keynote, 2016*
A TV-class portable device. A world-class laptop. And a breakthrough media workstation.

A TV. A laptop. And a media workstation.

A TV. A laptop. ...

Are you getting it? (YouTube link)

These are not separate devices. This is one device. And we are calling it... MacBook X.

Today, today, Apple is going to reinvent, the laptop. And here it is. *Cue Chromebook Pixel*. No, actually here it is, but we're going to leave it here for now.
 
I too would like to see them bring back the 17" MBP. The 17" MBP sold much better than the MP so I was never convicted that sales numbers were the overall factor for Apple removing it from their line.

I always felt they should have made the 17" MBP a BTO option to help reduce Apple's costs. Really, you could that with a number of sizes if you wanted to.

I wish Apple would bring back the 17" MBP as an ultra thin, high battery life, dual SSD, 4k (or better) notebook for professionals.

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MacBook Pro 14": The definitive MacBook. Performance. Light. Fantastic Retina-class screen. Portable yet powerful. In a smaller, lighter, thinner body, yet retaining the 15" screen in a 14" form factor (much like how the 12" is like the 13"). nVidia Maxwell-class: 970M. Upgraded cooling mechanism to support this new graphics card. All day battery life (Browsing, common usages.).
I think you meant to say a 14" screen in the 13" rMBP form factor.

The current 13.3" rMBP and 15.4" rMBP have very large bezels. Take a look at the bezel on the Dell XPS 13.

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You are grossly overestimating the importance of the pro user to Apple these days. Macs as a whole make up a small fraction of their profits, and pro users are an even tinier fraction of that. They don't make pro software worth a damn anymore. The "pro" desktops and notebooks are sealed with proprietary parts that can't be upgraded.

Look at the latest ad campaign... it's not pro photographers using Aperture on MacBook Pros; it's average users shooting with iPhones. The writing is on the wall... Apple's doesn't need or care about pro users anymore.

The point is: What the professionals uses, the masses follows.
 
MacBook 12": Streamlined, MacBook Air-esque vision of computing. Thin. Light. Affordable. Yet powerful (screen-wise). Integrated Iris graphics (2016 update) to support such a screen, with a Skylake processor.

MacBook Pro 14": The definitive MacBook. Performance. Light. Fantastic Retina-class screen. Portable yet powerful. In a smaller, lighter, thinner body, yet retaining the 15" screen in a 14" form factor (much like how the 12" is like the 13"). nVidia Maxwell-class: 970M. Upgraded cooling mechanism to support this new graphics card. All day battery life (Browsing, common usages.).

MacBook Pro 16": 4K screen. The previous cMBP 15"/rMBP 15" size (in terms of hardware size). nVidia Maxwell-class: 980M.

Following the desktop Macintosh distinction: Mac Mini. iMac. Mac Pro. MacBook. MacBook Pro. MacBook X.

*Keynote, 2016*
A TV-class portable device. A world-class laptop. And a breakthrough media workstation.

A TV. A laptop. And a media workstation.

A TV. A laptop. ...

Are you getting it? (YouTube link)

These are not separate devices. This is one device. And we are calling it... MacBook X.

Today, today, Apple is going to reinvent, the laptop. And here it is. *Cue Chromebook Pixel*. No, actually here it is, but we're going to leave it here for now.


Yes please I'll take one :)
 
With 264 ppi the same with iPad 3/4 screen.

Its Retina resolution will become 1920 X 1150 ,

sound prossible to me .:D

17 is king.
 
I want them to to put the PRO back in the MBP

Since the demise of the 17", Apple has been going backwards. Personally I could care less about the PRO's having a retina vs just having the matte Hi-res think of the processing power and battery power lost just running the display , and I could care less if it weighed even as much as 12-15 lbs as long as those extra lbs were worth it. Do away with having to haul around external drives and power adapters put them back inside give it about 12 ports and card slots and a USB-C

I'd like to see them try and put 3 (2 fold out) Hi Res (touch) screens on either a 2012 13.3 or a (pre retina) 15.4" (keep the Super-drive) give it a Dual Quad Core 3.5 GHz Skylake, with a modular base attached to it, that held 2 extra batteries and had 3 bays for additional (fans) SSDHDs, 32 GB of 2400 MHz DDR4 RAM and another DVD drive, and put a nice pop up ergonomic handle on it.

Now that would make it a Real Compact Portable work station a Real Professional would love .... regardless of its weight.

Cook needs to keep Ive away from the PRO's (accept for the handle design) and hire a Hot Rodder that can stuff an LS7 in a Geo Metro and have it run cool and still get 60 MPG while doing 240mph
 
Since the demise of the 17", Apple has been going backwards. Personally I could care less about the PRO's having a retina vs just having the matte Hi-res think of the processing power and battery power lost just running the display , and I could care less if it weighed even as much as 12-15 lbs as long as those extra lbs were worth it. Do away with having to haul around external drives and power adapters put them back inside give it about 12 ports and card slots and a USB-C

I'd like to see them try and put 3 (2 fold out) Hi Res (touch) screens on either a 2012 13.3 or a (pre retina) 15.4" (keep the Super-drive) give it a Dual Quad Core 3.5 GHz Skylake, with a modular base attached to it, that held 2 extra batteries and had 3 bays for additional (fans) SSDHDs, 32 GB of 2400 MHz DDR4 RAM and another DVD drive, and put a nice pop up ergonomic handle on it.

Now that would make it a Real Compact Portable work station a Real Professional would love .... regardless of its weight.

Cook needs to keep Ive away from the PRO's (accept for the handle design) and hire a Hot Rodder that can stuff an LS7 in a Geo Metro and have it run cool and still get 60 MPG while doing 240mph

You're delusional.
 
As a Media Professional, I'm all for it.

I'm crossing my fingers Apple will one day start making 17" laptops again... they did come back to the iPod Classic, right? :)

Right now I'm looking at upgrading my two 17"ers ... but I'd replace them with new Macbook Pro 17" machines in a heartbeat. I just can't stand working on a 15" machine. At home I use a Mac Pro with a 30" screen and a 24" Wacom touchscreen. When I travel I take my 17" - and it's no problem to travel with it. It's harder to find an appropriate backpack/case, but they are out there. The problem is, my old machine just doesn't have the horses to pull the wagon.

Has anyone upgraded their 2010 or 2011 machines? I'm looking at replacing the optical drive with a 1TB solid state, leaving the current drive in place for more storage ... Has anyone here done that? How'd it turn out?
 
Been on a 15" for several years now after a string of 17" Macbook Pros and i STILL feel like i am working in tunnel vision. I hate having to do any real work without an external monitor.

There has been studies that show that a larger screen give better productivity gains than a faster computer.

They really need to reduce the bezel size of these laptops, they could fit a 17" screen in a 15" form factor if they can loose the bezel.

BRING BACK THE 17"!!!!

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I'm crossing my fingers Apple will one day start making 17" laptops again... they did come back to the iPod Classic, right? :)

Right now I'm looking at upgrading my two 17"ers ... but I'd replace them with new Macbook Pro 17" machines in a heartbeat. I just can't stand working on a 15" machine. At home I use a Mac Pro with a 30" screen and a 24" Wacom touchscreen. When I travel I take my 17" - and it's no problem to travel with it. It's harder to find an appropriate backpack/case, but they are out there. The problem is, my old machine just doesn't have the horses to pull the wagon.

Has anyone upgraded their 2010 or 2011 machines? I'm looking at replacing the optical drive with a 1TB solid state, leaving the current drive in place for more storage ... Has anyone here done that? How'd it turn out?

I did the SSD replacement on my old 17" replaced the optical drive with it. I sold it to a friend and its still going strong.
 
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I am also hoping that when they eventually do a redesign there will be a larger macbook, Im surprised reading through this thread at the amount of kick back there is to the idea.

To me a 12" & 14" MacBook, and a 14", 16" & 18" MacBook Pro makes sense, with reduced bezels leaving them roughly the same size as the current air and pro range + 17

For me it wouldn't even be about having better performance over the 15, just having the larger screen makes working on it all day much easier. Plus the larger size gives the option for a larger battery, more ports and space for another ssd.

And if they added the bonus of a number pad I'm sure it would drag a few people from the 15 to the 17 camp

Portability is fine. Unplug, chuck in bag, get in car, reverse steps when I arrive at work. This worked ok with my dell m6400 beast, and a retina 17" would probably be half the weight. Fair enough if you need to spend all day

Would they sell enough to justify them, who knows? But hopefully the reason they stopped selling them, isn't a reason anymore.
 
I wish there was a still a 17" matte MBP option today. My beautiful 2011 17" matte screen MBP was finally replaced with a 15" rMBP by Apple because of multiple Radeongate issues.

My 17" had every port available and was a photo-editor's dream screen. My replacement 15" needs FW and Ethernet adapters just to access my back-up hard drives, my large-format printer and a USB Superdrive to use legacy software (and audio CDs). The color gamut of my old 17" screen seems to be wider than than my new 15" rMBP.

I really liked my old 2011 17". I may eventually bond with the 15" replacement - but I guess
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When I sit my 2015 15in next to my 2011 17in I get sad. I really wish they would make the 17in again. It really felt like a mobile work station, the 15in just misses that mark.
 
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