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LG Begins Rolling Out 2020 NanoCell TVs With AirPlay 2 and HomeKit, Pricing Starts at $599
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I'm surprised I couldn't find this mentioned on Apple's website but according to security analysts, Apple TV and Airplay do not allow the collection of data on 3rd party smart TVs.
Editorial: Why is privacy-minded Apple putting its new TV app on smart TVs notorious for spying on users? | AppleInsider
Apple has worked to make user privacy and data security primary features it promotes in its products and platforms. So why is the company porting its new TV App to smart TVs and streaming devices from Samsung, Amazon, LG, Roku and others that are notorious for spying on users and collecting data...
appleinsider.com
I don't want a "smart" TV. No built in Mics, Cameras, or built-in internet/tracking SW.
I want a dumb TV that I can plug into my Apple TV and run airplay that way. I'll take my chances with JUST Apple spying on me.
I want a dumb TV that I can plug into my Apple TV and run airplay that way. I'll take my chances with JUST Apple spying on me.
This is precisely why I will continue to use Apple TV. My LG OLED has the WiFi turned off and is never connected to the internet. I updated it when I first got it and then blacklisted the MAC address in my router settings so even if the WiFi does get turned on again it won’t be able to communicate. There’s literally no good reason for TVs to to “phone home.” Frankly stuff like that should be illegal.
Concerning Plex:
Its listed as part of the "android TV" section since Sony TVs from 2015 onward have android TV, so just install it from the play store if you want. A few select ones before also had it. It is there though, but I would still use the Apple TV either way.
One reason being 4K on smaller screen ( Higher Pixel Density ) is actually more expensive. So you end up having 2K 32" Screen. But then you cant charge as much with 2K 32". So the premium is smaller, and Top Tier Manufacture doesn't not want to be part of this market.
I am actually wondering if there is a market for Mesh WiFi TV. Where your TV acts as both a router or Mesh Repeater.
Good question. I believe they do something similar to Samsung, which is just insane. They screenshots everything you do and send it back to their servers
Samsung Smart TVs are Sending Screenshots of What you Watch Back to Samsung
Users who have agreed to the terms of the IBA services on Samsung smart TVs are having their viewing preferences uploaded to the company's servers.
www.technadu.com
I think LG Is a leader in the TV industry, but I do think their price points is what stifles them in some ways. Consumers only care about so much ‘new’ technology, and they don’t fully understand all of it, nor do they care to with marketing jargon with nano technology. The reality is, consumers will buy what they can afford in terms of having a TV that will give them an adequate picture. (Let alone, they can’t even differentiate between LCD versus OLED).
Usually, when you see the most lucrative TV sales, are right before the Super Bowl, they will discount [With the attempt to also liquidate] last year‘s technology/latest models, then; typically new floor models start making their way in the ‘spring season’ of that year.
I Purchased a 60 inch” Samsung Qled TV right before the Super Bowl, and I scored a $200 discount off the total price they were asking from Best Buy. Now, $200 really doesn’t seem like that much of a decent discount, but this is one of Samsung’s ‘high-end’ QLED Series TVs, and they are never discounted. So I think I did good, but it’s really about timing the market For the appropriate time to buy so you don’t ‘over pay.’
Technology is much like car sales, you have to take your time, due back end research and then move when retailers are looking to ‘offload’ older models in place of new models incoming.
when are they going to start offering larger sizes, 86 inch is too small, lets see some 90+ inch models at a reasonable price.
i've enjoyed my 82inch samsung over the last few years, but we need bigger!!!
i've enjoyed my 82inch samsung over the last few years, but we need bigger!!!
I can tell you my experience that may be somewhat helpful. I have an LG C8. Never use any of the smart functions, as I have an Apple TV. So, no data collection, etc. I also have a Samsung 8000 series with Airplay 2 built in. Hands down, I prefer using the ATV to ATV built in with airplay. It’s not even close. My advice is to buy the best screen you can get for your budget (rtngs.com and Vincent from HDTVTest YouTube channel will help with that). Skip built in airplay or ATV. If it’s a feature included in the tv you like, fine. Either way, tho, a stand-alone ATV is a far superior experience, and you never have to sign in to a darn thing on your tv. (Ps- for what it’s worth, the LG UI is, IMO, leagues beyond the Samsung UI.)
$599 is pretty cheap for cutting edge tech. Affordable Performance TV's are still in the $850-$1400 range. "Budget" TV's are below that.
Also 4K and 8K TV's use AI to upscale your content, so you still benefit from the larger resolution. An identical 4K and 8K TV looks better than a 1080p TV playing the same content.
its easy to say that we don't need 8k as we don't have 8k feed, but as its been pointed out, the upscaling improves the picture on the bigger screens.
still, its early days with 8k tvs, and it'll be worth waiting at least another year for a better 8k product.
I'll be looking for a newer larger TV next year as we should see full spec HDMI 2.1 on all sets and hopefully some larger panels to utilise 8k upscaling
still, its early days with 8k tvs, and it'll be worth waiting at least another year for a better 8k product.
I'll be looking for a newer larger TV next year as we should see full spec HDMI 2.1 on all sets and hopefully some larger panels to utilise 8k upscaling
I have the OLED version and there are options to turn most of them off. Mine came with all of them off by default.
But one of the most convenient features is the voice assistant by Google. And in order to enable this, I had to turn on google data collection. Otherwise, it wouldn't work.
And also for LG Channels, some data collection is required as well. Since I don't watch these channels I have them off.
Overall WebOS is on LG is absolutely fantastic I think.
Most of what you’re saying isn’t reasonable/nor a commonality. Think about it, probably the average size television in a consumers home is probably between 47”. Rather you’re being sarcastic or not about the ‘too small’ comment, an 86” TV is an extreme rarity, #1.) The price would be out of reach for the majority of consumers and #2.) Most probably TV’s of that size wouldn’t fit for some TV stands or even have the necessary ‘wall space’ if they considered mounting it.)
For some of us like myself, [that’s in the gaming/high-quality content for media], I would welcome anything above 60”, But I don’t think it should be just about the ‘size‘ of the panel, it should be about the quality component Chip-sets the panel uses from the manufacturer. (I also prefer Samsungs chipsets for their QLED series).
Also, Something else your post didn’t take into consideration, to have a TV display as large as 90” , I would question how far is someone sitting away that they would need to have a TV display that large. If you’re sitting within 3 feet of your TV, you don’t need a 90 inch television display, but if you’re sitting 25 feet away, then that would be more practical.
I encountered stutter with AirPlay-2 on my 55". I found a fix online:
Go into router/Home Network/ LAN Interface/RA Settings/
Uncheck: Enable RA.
This fixed my Airplay-2 stutter on my new 2020 LG 55" TV.
The pathway within your own router may look a bit different but find RA Settings in LAN and try this.
Go into router/Home Network/ LAN Interface/RA Settings/
Uncheck: Enable RA.
This fixed my Airplay-2 stutter on my new 2020 LG 55" TV.
The pathway within your own router may look a bit different but find RA Settings in LAN and try this.
Personally, I'm hoping standalone devices and "dumb" TV's never go anywhere. I used to work for an AV integrator, and sort of took it up as a hobby. As such, I have a Crestron switcher that my Chromecast, ATV, and Switch all go into, that I can distribute to any of three locations in my house. As something that less than 0.1% of people care about, I don't see my kind being enough to keep it around though.
That still exists for 4K. It’s not like 4K is suddenly 1080p and therefore some bargain basement device. Especially for higher-end devices like LG’s OLED lineup.
I got the 10 month old LG C9 65” on sale for $1949 right before my Chiefs won the Super Bowl and there isn’t anything I can see in the recently released CX that I feel like I’m missing out on. It has HomeKit, AirPlay 2, VRR for G-Sync and FreeSync, HDMI 2.1, Dolby Atmos, Dolby Vision, HLG, HDR10, DCI-P3 coverage, WiSA, eARC, and advanced features like AI-trained upscaling which in my opinion I thought was going to be junk but is actually decent. And since it’s OLED it has amazing contrast with deep blacks.
The only thing I could see being worth much of an upgrade in coming years is moving away from OLED to perhaps mLED technology since it has issues lasting over time. But my C9 seems to have technologies built-in to help with this, so whenever it breaks I’ll get a new one and perhaps by then in 2026-2028 only 8K displays will have the best tenchokogy. But something is telling me 8K is going to take a lot longer than 4K to get off the ground.
I feel like for a few years there we quickly moved from 480 to 720 to 1080. Then 4K too a while longer to catch on. 8K will take even longer due to the price vs. perceived difference and even less available content. You can get a great 4K scan out of old film. But an 8K scan? It will have to be for newer movies. Even now a lot of the non-film movies are being shot around 6K-8K so they can crop in and stabilize down to 4K. Also reducing to 4K makes the sharpness better in post and helps reduce noise in scenes with low-light. I feel like we’ll need some 12-16K sensors before we’re getting good 8K output from studios. For now, as a consumer, it’s still difficult enough to get everything in 4K, especially for TV.
I’ll take 48” OLED. Still a vast improvement (when I’m looking for smaller rather than larger) on the 55” and above only options to date.
So ok. June. Thanks. I’ll look forward to that!
You are totally right, it is impossible or at least very difficult to find all features in smaller TVs. We've just moved and I specifically wanted a Homekit/Airplay 2 capable TV for the living room. I had a non-smart 40" 4k LG set which I am very happy with picture quality, design and size-wise, we kept that for the bedroom. That size was out of the question feature-wise and even 43" TV's did not have the features I was looking for so eventually I had to go for 49". It fits the space and it is actually beautiful so I don't regret it but I can also relate to the size vs. features problem. I remember that I have bought the 40" 4-5 years ago also having the same headache. I wanted a 4k non-smart (as I found smart to be actually quite dumb back then) TV at around 30-someting inches and 40" was the smallest option.
I keep the mic disabled, I did not even set it up, HomeKit/AirPlay works. I had to turn on watching habits and data collection at some point during set-up. I could flip the switch off later from the menu but the name of the option was not the same and I have yet to check what this actually means in the background.
NanoCell is said to be the top of the LG LED line, OLED is still better, and more expensive, sure.
I have just checked it on my TV, the Plex app is available for WebOS, also here are the web links to prove it:
LG CONTENT STORE
LG Content Store, Check and find immediate solutions to problems you are experiencing. Before submitting a 1:1 Inquiry, please visit the FAQ or the Self Troubleshooting sections for answers to problems you are experiencing.
sg.lgappstv.com
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