A nearly 4-year-old design is not much of a choice/alternative if you think about it.
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LG Denies Copying iPhone X's Notched Design With New G7 Smartphone
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If you want to play it that way, Essentia copied the first iPhone.
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I guess you could say that the idea of any notch on a phone is borrowed from Essential (a great phone) but the notch on the iPhone is shaped differently(for a reason) and has advanced facial recognition tech in it that neither Essential nor LG have.
The Essential phone and the iPhone X each have their own distinctive look. LG on the other hand didn't need to have a notch shaped like the iPhone since they don't have tech comparable to FaceID--they could have gone with a smaller notch easy -- which is why the LG is more of a copy of the iPhone X than the iPhone X is a copy of Essential.
Essential made the right choice and didn't make the notch any bigger than it had to--which was a solid design decision.
Also, that chin at the bottom of the LG makes it look hideous.
The iPhone X notch is nothing like the one on the Essential phone. Essential's is just a little cutout around the camera - sure, it's a notch but it's very small. The idea is similar between the two phones but the implementation is drastically different.
LG's notch is very much like Apple's. They might have developed it independently but them insisting they didn't copy comes across as lame and defensive.
How can they know specifically when Apple started planning for the notch? They should just ignore playing the “me first” game and start differentiating themselves from the pack.
There have been numerous rumours since 2016 about the expected iPhone 8 with leaks that showed a phone with a notch.
You know the first smartphone was not iPhone right? LG had a touch screen phone before iPhone. So Apple copied LG?
There's no logical basis for that assumption. There is nothing in Face ID that required a notched screen. That's true for Apple and LG whatever functionality their front facing camera has. The notch on the iPhone X is purely cosmetic... just like it is on LG's phone. There is no functionality tied to the notch being there.
There were plenty of smartphones before the LG Prada. If you are saying more along the lines of the first almost all touchscreen smartphone with a capacitive touchscreen (which was fairly different from touchscreens prior to that), that's a bit different, although even there it wasn't really the same type of thing as, from what I recall it wasn't something that supported multitouch, but, yes, as far as sort of overall design, there were definitely almost all touchscreen phones, and certainly plenty of smartphones in general prior to the iPhone.
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Basically saying it could have simply be done with some bezel, being mostly no different than many prior phones for years before?
This. LG even has a mode that visually creates the complete bezel. Apple frowns on devs doing just that; obscuring the notch. It's just not necessary.
Sure, but with the approach of not having a bezel seems like the notch was pretty much the only other alternative for what's needed in that part of the device.
It’s hilarious. One of the most contentious and hotly debated design decisions Apple has made in an iPhone release since the decision to remove the audio jack and competitors can’t copy it fast enough.
If you are going to have an edge to edge display and want a front facing camera it’s either a notch or a bezel. I mostly don’t notice the notch. The only thing that bugs me is that end users don’t have control over what’s displayed to the right or left of it. I’d love to be able to have power percentage option in the upper right hand corner instead of having to pull down the control center.
It would also be nice to have the option of having the notch more resemble a bezel by having a black background with white icons for the time, location, cell signal and battery charge indicator to the right and left of the notch. Then you could pick your poison.
If you are going to have an edge to edge display and want a front facing camera it’s either a notch or a bezel. I mostly don’t notice the notch. The only thing that bugs me is that end users don’t have control over what’s displayed to the right or left of it. I’d love to be able to have power percentage option in the upper right hand corner instead of having to pull down the control center.
It would also be nice to have the option of having the notch more resemble a bezel by having a black background with white icons for the time, location, cell signal and battery charge indicator to the right and left of the notch. Then you could pick your poison.
You know removing the audio jack is not a really user friendly decision so that's why some competitors aren't following the trend?
If you have a notch and still need to have a bottom chin, you’re doing it wrong, and it means your engineering and available technology isn’t good enough to shift things around.
That's just it, the notch doesn't achieve the goal of not having a bezel. The X has top, bottom, and side bezels. They are thinner than the 8's bezels, but bezels nonetheless. The notch is simply a cosmetic differentiation, not a necessity as claimed by keysofanxiety. That's not to say it's good or bad. Some like it, some don't.
An edge where the screen ends isn't exactly a bezel in the sense of how they are applied to and discussed in the realm of current phones.
Well, IBM had a touch screen phone before LG. So LG copied IBM. And I'm sure you can find someone doing a touchscreen phone before IBM. Either way, you're just supporting my point even further. We pretty much can do "Did you know X did ___ before Y" all day. It's ridiculous.
LG notch -> iPhone Notch -> Essentia Cut out -> first iPhone -> LG phone before the iPhone -> IBM touch screen phone -> the first cell phone -> the first phone -> morse code -> smoke signals -> etc...
The hate most people have for Apple regarding the issue of competitors copying one another is just part of the story, it's not just about who is first. No other competitor has sued others for copying except Apple, and it was for copying a design, not any real tech. Apple felt pressure so they sued instead of making a better product.
Competition is great but Apple wants to get rid of the competition by tying them up in the court room instead of battling them in the marketplace.
This is rabbit hole not worth pursuing imo. The notch is not necessary for Face ID. You can uselessly argue otherwise.