Not sure why anyone would copy the notch its such a stupid idea that I am sure Apple is working to get rid off.
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LG Denies Copying iPhone X's Notched Design With New G7 Smartphone
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Hmm. Has Apple complained? What? Nope.
On the contrary, Apple wants LG to make millions more notched displays... in addition to the millions already made for iPhones by Samsung.
If Apple listened to some of its fans who seem to find conspiracies everywhere, they'd have no OLED supplier at all.
On the contrary, Apple wants LG to make millions more notched displays... in addition to the millions already made for iPhones by Samsung.
If Apple listened to some of its fans who seem to find conspiracies everywhere, they'd have no OLED supplier at all.
This makes no sense. There's nothing in Face ID technology that due to the notch. Face ID module can easily be placed in a phone or tablet with a standard bezel. The notch is a design choice. It is not functional. 1NYer's opinion that the notch is hideous is just that; an opinion about the looks of the notch. It's not a true or false fact. Some like it, some don't. Purely a subjective exercise.
I know this is not the post that you were initially responded to, but I want to use this specific one as an example, as it shows the most ignorance, as I did read your previous replies to other members in this thread. To put it succinctly, your post is absolutely worthless. You don’t have an understanding of the incorporation of the hardware in the notch to make a statement that the notch is _not_ necessary. You can make any argument you want on why it should or not should not exist, but housing the speaker, dot projector, flood illuminator, Camera, proximity & ambient light sensor, Microphone and infrared camera is necessary for the Notch to exist in its current state serves its purpose.
I’m assuming you’re not an Apple engineer, I would adore to read the response to this specific post direct from Apple.
It may be a design choice, but it has a presence to exist for the reasons already mentioned above. I understand it’s not a functional piece of the iPhone X necessarily, but it serves a place to house the necessary hardware. Nor can you make the argument that it doesn’t have the need to not exist, unless you can prove otherwise.
I could care less about the _Look_ of the notch in general, rather someone finds it to be hideous or they like it, I’m disinterested in the look of the Notch altogether. My argument is that it does serve it’s purpose until The hardware can eventually be altered or the notch subsides/minimalizes in some way or another.
Now this, is something you made sense of. Thanks for the discussion.
It is an alternative choice. It might not be what people want, but tough titties.
This makes even less sense than your last post. The Face ID module can fit in a standard bezel. I'm not sure how you can argue otherwise. You claim I lack an understanding of the incorporation of the hardware. Based on what? Your understanding of it?
As yet, you haven't demonstrated an understanding of, well, anything. You're simply listing the components of the Face ID module. I'm assuming you're not an engineer at all, Apple or otherwise. No engineer would conflate the components of Face ID with the necessity to put those components in a notched panel. It's a design choice... one that Apple even allows you to hide when watching video.
If you understand it's not a functional piece of the phone, then why are you arguing that it's necessary? It simply isn't. As you said, it's a housing for the Face ID module. A standard bezel can serve as the it's housing as well.
If you can find any post where I made that argument, I will eat my hat. Especially since the argument you presented in that sentence is a double negative.
Grammar aside, the only argument I've made the entire time is to counter keysofanxiety's claim that the notch was necessary for Face ID. It's not necessary. The Face ID module doesn't have to be housed in a notch. Nothing you've written counters that claim.So you jumped on a comment that was obviously about the look of the notch, and decided to change the subject to something totally unrelated to comment? Okay, I guess. Seems to me it would have made more sense to reply to a quote that was about the technical instead of one about the aesthetic of the notch.
That preposition at the end of your sentence is giving me twitch-eye.
In the evolution of both iOS and Android, both sides copy/make innovations from the competition. Just because the G7 has a notch does not mean its a clone of the iPhone X.
The argument that the G7 copied the iPhone X's notched design can go either way.
Like others have said, this issue is a trivial matter and, we should appreciate the innovation of both the iOS and Android ecosystems.
The argument that the G7 copied the iPhone X's notched design can go either way.
Like others have said, this issue is a trivial matter and, we should appreciate the innovation of both the iOS and Android ecosystems.
When people pay a premium for Apple’s “alternative”, tough titties indeed. Of course we all have a choice, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t leave a sour taste in the mouths of some people. At least Apple will correct that by introducing the iPhone 9 this year.
Depending on what technology you're talking about.
FaceID doesn't require a notch. It requires two cameras and a dot-projector, but there's nothing that requires them to be sandwiched between two parts of the display.
The notch became a "necessity" only because Apple had another (more important) design goal of an edge-to-edge display and they couldn't figure out any way to put the FaceID hardware under the display and still have them work properly. So they were forced to choose between a top-bezel and a notch. They made a business decision to use a notch. There's no technical reason why a bezel wouldn't work.
Which is the same decision everybody else is making - bezel or notch - because they all have selfie cameras and nobody is going to give them up in the name of an uninterrupted edge-to-edge display.
Well, LG wasn't first either. IBM shipped the first device that one could legitimately call a smart phone in 1994 (demo'ed in 1992). The first smartphone I saw personally was the Handspring Treo in 2002 (running PalmOS). I believe the first BlackBerry phones came out that same year (earlier BlackBerries being smart pagers, not phones).
As far as I know, Apple was the first to use a multi-touch screen in a phone. Before that, they were all single-touch, using a variety of different digitizer technologies.
But many are, despite customer complaints. Just like Samsung and many others have switched away from user-replaceable battery packs, despite the fact that no customer ever asked for that "feature".
Unfortunately, in many areas, the industry leaders all prefer to copy each other, even for features nobody likes or wants.
Yes, but it was a design decision, not a technical requirement, that the iPhone X have an edge-to-edge display.
You know Samsung went with a glass back (removing the user replaceable battery) to bring wireless charging right?
They started using non-replaceable batteries for many Galaxy models before the current one.
