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Apple, Give me a $3,000 'baby' XDR. I don't need television or broadcast reference specifications. I want a display with a similar mini-LED density of the new MacBook Pro that sits beside it, 27-32" size, stand included with HDR and 5K support. That's it.
That’s still out of the price range for most, even people who buy Mac Pros. So it doesn’t make sense to add yet another expensive niche product. Needs to be $1,500-$2,500 max.
 
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are the new mbp 2021's displays manufactured by LG as well?

i know there are 2 manufacturers but dunno who these are

very well hope BOE isnt one of them though

Global Lighting Technologies is evidently the primary supplier of MacBook Pro MiniLED displays and Apple has sourced (or is in the process of sourcing) a second supplier, but no info I can find on who that is.

what price should we expect for these ? 24 & 27"

Well the 24" iMac starts at $1299, but it does not have a MiniLED display. So I'd peg that as a good baseline.

As for the 27", maybe $1599?


Do the 2021 MBPs support DisplayPort 2.0 and the 5K/120Hz that’s capable of pushing?

Thunderbolt 3/4 is limited to 60Hz at 5K.
 
Global Lighting Technologies is evidently the primary supplier of MacBook Pro MiniLED displays and Apple has sourced (or is in the process of sourcing) a second supplier, but no info I can find on who that is.



Well the 24" iMac starts at $1299, but it does not have a MiniLED display. So I'd peg that as a good baseline.

As for the 27", maybe $1599?




Thunderbolt 3/4 is limited to 60Hz at 5K.
how is it evident ? have a source? lol do lemme know when apple sources secondary manufacturer
 
That’s still out of the price range for most, even people who buy Mac Pros. So it doesn’t make sense to add yet another expensive niche product. Needs to be $1,500-$2,500 max.
This is the competition: https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/sho...21q/apd/210-ayci/monitors-monitor-accessories

$3754 for a Dell Mini-LED powered 4K display. Dell has pricier displays with better colors but if Dell thinks they can get $3,000 or so (on sale) for theirs, Apple will list if for $3,000 as well.
 
This is the competition: https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/sho...21q/apd/210-ayci/monitors-monitor-accessories

$3754 for a Dell Mini-LED powered 4K display. Dell has pricier displays with better colors but if Dell thinks they can get $3,000 or so (on sale) for theirs, Apple will list if for $3,000 as well.
You mean the 32.

What's your guess on 27" price ?

I mean if they indeed release the iMac 27 with the same display at 2k-2.5k...i don't see how the monitor itself will be priced any higher than 1.5k...right ?
 
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You mean the 32.

What's your guess on 27" price ?

I mean if they indeed release the iMac 27 with the same display at 2k-2.5k...i don't see how the monitor itself will be priced any higher than 1.5k...right ?
Apple could seriously dominate the monitor space with a 27" version of the current MacBook Pro's screen at ~$1500, hopefully the same decision makers responsible for fixing all the problems with MacBooks are listening. And the current XDR along with that truly delusional price tag can go in the bin where it belongs.
 
Apple could seriously dominate the monitor space with a 27" version of the current MacBook Pro's screen at ~$1500, hopefully the same decision makers responsible for fixing all the problems with MacBooks are listening. And the current XDR along with that truly delusional price tag can go in the bin where it belongs.
"hopefully the same decision makers responsible for fixing all the problems with MacBooks are listening"

What do u mean here?
 
I don't know how different a screen with an M1 (or whatever variant they use) will be from an iMac? I guess get rid of storage, the wifi/bluetooth controllers, etc. Maybe have the GPU cores help with graphics, while the CPU cores do the basic screen stuff. The latter seems like overkill, though.

First, the A- and M- series SoCs don't have any WiFi-Bluetooth in them. So cannot really drop what isn't in there in the first place.

In fact probably the opposite of likely getting some data over Wi-Fi bluetooth

"... The chips are not as powerful as the chips used in Apple's Macs and iOS devices, without a neural engine for AI and machine learning capabilities. The chip is designed to optimize for wireless data transmission, compressing and decompressing video, and power efficiency for maximum battery life. .."

There was another recent rumor that put the headset SoC on "similar compute power to M1 " (or something to that effect). Again, probably not the collective whole of the M1 but specifically selected components to a more specific set of workloads. [ two different chips used to 'complete' the headset could explain different explainations at different times. ]

With AI/ML "uplift" can take a 1080p image and make it look like a higher resolution rendered 4K image. Similar general approach to compression if send a substantively smaller subset of the data with enough 'clues' to recompose the image... you'd need some "graphics inferencing " horsepower on the receiving (and sending) end.
[ Also don't really need a general purpose ML 'processor' if only going to do one type of inference ( e.g., 'smart image decompression' ). But can probably 'imitate' a specialized 'engine' if don't have the bleeding edge silicon yet with a more general purpose 'processor' while doing development. ]

If trying to map back into task that generic monitors do then probably not the point of Apple adding their silicon. More likely Apple is way off the beaten path trying to do something relatively few to nobody is trying to do (e.g., drop all the wires from the monitor and still have 4-6K HDR or something like that. ) .


Even then, I don't know how much an improvement having the chip in there will have since most Macs by then will already have an M1 (or better) chip in them. If the screen's M1 & the Mac's M1 could work in conjunction, maybe.

Very easy to be an improvement if not trying to do what the M1 GPUs are doing. M1 GPUs trying to communicate to a LCD panel via a wires in "Normal" mode. Display SoC not using wires. The latter would be additive.
[ Can use a M-series or A-series to compose what is transmitted to the display's SoC but the SoC on the other side doesn't have to be identical. A Mac can send Airplay video to a TV... that doesn't' mean the TV has to have an A- or M- series SoC on the other side to decode and present the audio/video. Same thing here for the display. ]

Likely, this is not a standard M-series or A-series SoC. Portably tasked somewhat like how the SoC in a Homepod is task ( only more focused on video than on audio. )
 
you need to re-read the article. This is Apple display, not LG. LG will just provide panels and manufacture it but its Apple

Errr..... this part?

"... In a Twitter thread, the leaker said the displays are currently encased in unbranded enclosures, but he believes the displays might be for Apple given that they have similar specifications as iMac ..."

that twitter thread starts off with this prelude

" ...There are three LG made Displays encased in unbranded enclosures for usage as external monitors that are in early development. ..."

That doesn't say these are Apple label displays. it just says that they are "for Apple". The one and only one input Ultrafine models were "for Apple" previously also. That was Apple "back seat driving" those LG displays.
The "Displays encased in unbranded enclosures" is suggestive of this being LG panels in enclosures rather than a semi-finished complete display wrapped in a "box" to hide the exterior design. if it is very early development there probably isn't almost completely fully baked finished industrial design chassis to hide.


However, the key part there is "he believes". That isn't LG or Apple leaked blah blah blah or Apple signed production contract for blah blah blah ... this is just the 3rd party putting his own interpretation on it.

Decent chance same "Ultrafine outsource" thing is happening here if these are composed of LG constructed panels. LG gets the contract for the iMacs and is also "allowed" to sell displays which help improve the economies of scale for the panel production ( since Apple probably picks resolutions that almost no other monitor maker is going to buy ). Apple possibly "guarantees" a certain 'minim buy' to sell through the Apple App Store (and Apple retail channels) to cover the R&D production risk, but volume profits go to LG (if they do a decent job).

It largely boils down to who constructed the "stub"/"test harness" enclosures. If it is LG then LG is just as likely the end makers for these. If these are reference design harnesses for the panels then other vendors could have them also. If Apple did the enclosure , then it would be much more likely Apple's test harness for a Apple solution.
So a key issue here is not answered by the article at all.
 
You mean the 32.

What's your guess on 27" price ?

I mean if they indeed release the iMac 27 with the same display at 2k-2.5k...i don't see how the monitor itself will be priced any higher than 1.5k...right ?

Like I said in my first post, I want a “baby-XDR” I want the Mini-LEDs, 5K, 32”, full P3 color without any of the broadcast reference stuff the full XDR has. This time next year, I’ll just buy whatever Dell makes even though it’ll only be 4K unless their 8K pricing comes down.
 
Would a 2022 27" iMac possibly be able to support two additional 27" 5K displays? I would easily spend $1500+ on additional 27" displays if the next iMac will push two additional monitors. It would very cool to have 3 matching apple displays...
 
'Pro' one could have a built-in Apple Silicon GPU to enhance laptops when plugged into it?

I know this goes against the SoC efficiencies, but who knows?
 
27" Mini LED is what I WANT. Ideally three running off a 14" MBP M3 Max in a couple years.

Hopefully it's not ungodly expensive. I don't need XDR brightness, and actually, I don't prefer it. I use my iMac so much during the day that I keep it on about half to 2/3 brightness, depending on the headache I'm cooking up. What I do want is deeper blacks for better contrast since I do keep my display somewhat dim. Of course I turn it up when editing photos or checking designs, but most of the time I don't need it. I love the Mini LED display on my iPad Pro.
 
LG have a 32” OLED display in the works, I could see Apple using that

I'm not sure Apple want such a low pixels per inch (139 ppi). It doesn't look great in macOS.

That resolution is simply not enough for 31.5".

So it's either 6K like the Pro Display XDR or 8K.
 
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