We should have a MR get together and light ourselves on fire to protest this.
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LG's New UltraFine 5K Display Limited to 4K Resolution When Used With 2018 iPad Pro
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In another thread in this forum, a user was able to edit either a PList or NVRAM to increase the “VRAM” assigned to the Intel HD 3000 iGPU. I wonder if that might be possible as the CPUs in the 2018 Mac mini can address up to 64GB of video memory. I wonder if increasing the amount of memory allowed to be used might alleviate the issues even more for those with 16, ew or 64GB of DRAM? May I ask how much is assigned by default on your mini?
I think I have the same 5K as you. Is it really as fast? I mean, forget benchmarks. I mean, does it feel faster for what you do?For those wondering why anyone would want to run an external high-rez screen on an iPad, it should be noted that in terms of raw speed, even the 2018 iPad Pro is faster than my 2017 quad-core Retina 5K iMac i5.
Once iOS 13 lands, along with the appropriate 3rd party software, for some heavy users there will be pretty good reason to want to run such a screen on an iPad.
In fact, LumaFusion was just updated to support external screens.
I'm not doubting you, by the way. I just remember buying that 5K right when it came out and maxing it out---I can't believe we're at the point where iPads are outperforming $3,500 desktops.
Im sure this was the one drip that made Johnny’s barrel flow over and made him leave
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I’m usually in favor of Tim Cook’s steering, but the whole monitor Fiasko is something he shouldn’t be proud of!!!
Re: the aesthetics, as I am apparently an UltraFine apologist. Are there better looking 5K monitors people want on their desks? Is the attitude is "well, this 5K display is just too ugly, so I'm either 1) not going to even use an external monitor or 2) I will use a monitor with an interior display because it's a little better looking"?Im sure this was the one drip that made Johnny’s barrel flow over and made him leave
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I’m usually in favor of Tim Cook’s steering, but the whole monitor Fiasko is something he shouldn’t be proud of!!!
I mean, it's crazy town.
4 fps for what?
My MacBook 2017 Core m3 (16 GB RAM) seems OK with 4K 60 Hz 4:4:4 on an external screen, and it has a lesser GPU (Intel 615) than you have in your Mac mini.
I don't own the 2018 iPad Pro, but my friend has one. I can't really do a direct comparison as the software is different, but yes, it is very, very, very fast.
It's certainly noticeably faster than my Core m3 MacBook for surfing. The Core m3-7Y32 is fast enough for this purpose, but the A12X is just faster.
BTW, my 2017 iPad Pro 10.5" with A10X in LumaFusion is also very fast for video exports, but presumably that's because it's all hardware accelerated. The 2018 iPad Pro is still often even faster though:
iPad Pro Video Editing Performance Takes Less Than One-Third of the Time to Complete When Compared to the MacBook Pro
Errrrrrrr
GFX benchmark here
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...f-high-end-imac-performance-from-2012-to-now/
IMac. 2012-2017 455 - 714 on TRex
GFX Benchmark here
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/11/apple-walks-ars-through-the-ipad-pros-a12x-system-on-a-chip/
iPad Pro. 383
iMac 2017 715
iMac Pro 1147
That’s fine if you need 3D speed but a lot of people don’t, and all they need is acceptable 3D speed with non-laggy 2D speed.
I know for myself, I’m running a dual 27” setup with my 5K iMac, but 3D speed is pretty much irrelevant.
I have the original. The screen is perfect. Who cares about the bezel/stand on a thing, that sits on your desk. I look at the screen all day, not the bezel/stand.
This thread is about a 5K monitor . The iMac 2017 can drive two 5K panels at the same time . The iPad Pro can’t even drive one ( the iPad drives a 4K ) . It isn’t just 3D horsepower. The iPad Pro can’t pixel fill two 5K screens worth of pixels either . Apple may add that later, but it is not there now .
Eventually iPad with have Thunderbolt 4
there will never be a thunderbolt 4 - thunderbolt is now merged into the upcoming usb4
My posts were speculating about the new 2019 iPad Pro driving the 5K monitor.
And even if it doesn't, the next iteration definitely will.
I don't understand all the negativity towards this screen and the design. The design is subjective, a professional is more concerned about quality. I have had numerous LG 5K screens since they were released and even with issues (ghosting and issue with shielding), I kept buying more.... why? Because it is one the most beautiful screens on the market... I have tried every other high end 4K panel and the Dell UP2718Q (HDR version), looked very good but the 5K gives this LG a big notch over all the others and the price even at 1299 is very fair, I only wish they had a standard 3YR warranty. I did purchase this new version as well for my home office. I read all these comments bashing the design and its very strange, do you just buy a monitor to show off a design. This panel is hands down one of the best available, all of us LG 5k owners know that and keep coming back to buy more.
If you have to ask that question I'd stick to the $399 consumer screens.. like Dell U2718Q for example.
For watching Netflix at a distance, no. I don't think that's what these are for though. What if you, for example, want to view and edit 4K content while still having the application controls around it? 4K won't cut it.
LG yesterday released a new version of its UltraFine 5K Display with USB-C connectivity, allowing it to be used with 2018 iPad Pro models, but Apple has since confirmed that the iPad Pro cannot take advantage of the full 5K resolution.
In a new support document, Apple says the UltraFine 5K is limited to a 4K resolution of 3,840×2,160 at 60Hz when connected to 2018 iPad Pro models via USB-C. The full 5K resolution requires a 2016 or newer MacBook Pro, a 2018 or newer MacBook Air, a 2017 or newer iMac or iMac Pro, or a 2018 Mac mini.
The new UltraFine 5K Display is available to order for $1,299.95 on Apple.com. Like the previous model, it also supports Thunderbolt 3, with up to 94W of power for pass-through charging of any Mac or iPad connected to the display.
The new display has the model number 27MD5KL-B.
Article Link: LG's New UltraFine 5K Display Limited to 4K Resolution When Used With 2018 iPad Pro
Does that mean, that we can finally watch 4K iTunes content with this display via the iPad Pro, or is this still not supported?
Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any documentation one way or the other on whether the display, or the iPad, can use DP 1.4. Apple only tells you what "just works" and I'm not sure the info on the LG site has been updated yet. So its anybody's guess. My guess is that all that has changed is the Thunderbolt controller & surrounding circuitry to allow USB-C DP Alt Mode operation.
I know that, in theory, the 2018/2019 15" MacBook Pros with discrete graphics definitely possibly might support DP 1.4, but I'm not sure if that has actually been confirmed.
I’m using the dell up2715k which was sadly discontinued.. but I’m glad about it because it does look nicer in my opinion. Still no match to the thunderbolt displays I had before though of course...
USB 3.1 is a USB data standard, independent of the USB-C port and alt modes, and USB 3.2 (pairing USB 3.1 channels on a USB-C cable) is... well proof that the the whole USB/port/protocol nomenclature is a dumpster fire and that statements such as "USB-C is just a connector" are "not even wrong".
Neither have anything to do with DisplayPort 1.4 support, which has been in the "USB-C DisplayPort Alt Mode" spec since day one, but instead are down to whether the computer's GPU and USB-C cont... er, sorry #deconstruct60, "the bit of the computer that controls the USB-C port" implement it.
I've never seen it stated whether or not the older Thunderbolt 3 controllers (that only supported DP 1.2 over Thunderbolt) also prevented the ports supporting DP 1.4 in USB DP Alt Mode - but iMacs and 15" MBPs have had DP1.4-capable AMD GPUs for years now so I assume its the USB-C implementation that has been blocking it.
The new 15” MBP with discrete graphics has the new Intel JHL7540 Thunderbolt controller, and supports DisplayPort 1.4 with HBR3. However, it cannot drive an 8K display.
The 13” has the same TB controller but because of the Intel iGPU, it is limited to DisplayPort1.2 with HBR2.
USB4 is derived from Thunderbolt 3, but it doesn't follow that there couldn't also be a Thunderbolt 4 beyond that.
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Size doesn't answer that; viewing distance does.
We tend to hold smaller screens much closer and keep larger screens much further in the distance. Two feet for a phone, five for a desktop display, ten for a living room TV.
A display "under 40 inches" may be in your living room, in which case no, you probably won't benefit from 5K at all. You want something closer to 60 inches to really benefit from 8K.
But if it's on your desk, that calculus changes.
Which is again, why people have fantasies with USB.
It does, having alt mode doesn't mean you could suddenly ran 30Gbps+ Speed on a 10Gbps tested controller. Alt mode allows you to run within the electrical specifications of standards, and that only goes up to DP 1.2.
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