I can't speak to the Mercedes, but I'm shocked that the 328 doesn't have aux-in. I just traded in an '08 335i and it had aux-in. As does it's replacement, a '12 X35i.
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Lightning Adapter - iPod/Video Out?? [MERGED]
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I can't speak to the Mercedes, but I'm shocked that the 328 doesn't have aux-in. I just traded in an '08 335i and it had aux-in. As does it's replacement, a '12 X35i.
We don't know for sure, but I am going to say I think it will. Since you use a USB cable, that means your car is getting the music as digital data - there is no Analog input in USB. You should get the $19 cable it's cheaper than the $30 adapter.
In general I think the people who use a usb cable will be fine. It is the people who use a device with a hard wired cable or built in 30 pin connector. In those cases, you don't know if your device is using the Analog signals on the connector, and we don't know for SURE that the adapter can convert those...
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I think the concern will be with devices with built in 30 pin connectors and hard wired cables. Car decks with USB connections should be fine. Older models that have hard wired cables may be using the analog audio portion of the cable and until we know the adapter handles that, I think they COULD have an issue.
It would seem like all of the clock radios, and cheap speaker docks would fall into this group that COULD have issues, so I am kind of surprised Apple would do this, but at the same time, I am not sure I am convinced there is a DAC in that little adapter. I guess it would explain the price though...
You totally missed my point. Sure, it works for you. My point is just cause it works for you don't dismiss that it may not work for others. You completely ignored that bluetooth will not charge your phone. I and other people have valid reasons for not liking that and you are dismissing it as unimportant just cause it's not important to you. Or in otherwords, bluetooth is not a solution for everyone so don't go dismissing that our concerns are stupid and not valid because you see no use in it.
For example, on long trips I'd like to use my iphone as my GPS. Seeing as GPS eats battery, being able to charge it while it's being used like that is a very good thing. Especially since it's my phone as well so it would be nice not to drain my phone so I have it in case of emergencies. And I'm sorry, I would never leave my phone in my car. You don't think thieves know about hiding places.... hahahahahahahaa. Go watch that show where they have an ex thief go through people's houses and immediately find all the hiding spots they thought were creative (and I would have thought some of them were creative too). Hell, we have thieves in my work parking lot (I work at a mall) that watch people to see if they put stuff in a trunk. That marks the car as some thing to go search when they do (we've been warned we're actually better off leaving it in the car than hiding it in the trunk. But we're warned we're best off just taking the item with us. It boggles me people who leave high value items in a car honestly).
maybe but I used mini-USB for years on my nokia N95 before I got an iPhone and never had a problem, I'm not really a 'docker' though so convenience of one solution for all data and charging would have worked better in my world.
I know HDMI is supported on the iPhone now (I use the HDMI adaptor) but the specifications on the iPhone 5 only say video out via AirPlay I think it will be a shame if they have removed HDMI out.
Edit: I think they definitely have removed HDMI out, on the 4S tech specs it specifically mentions the Digital AV connector on the 5's nothing, could be because they haven't made that adaptor yet but I doubt it.
Depending on how much bandwidth Lightning supports, they may be able to make an HDMI adaptor.
Of course none of us know for sure, but I would be absolutely shocked if Apple were to have removed HDMI support for the iPhone 5. Think about it. Do you really think Apple expects everyone that wants to play a video to also own an Apple TV? What about visiting Grandma? She's gotta have one too? For all those business presentations at hotels--gotta have an Apple TV too? I know it's possible, but I hope very, very unlikely. Until I see Apple's decision on HDMI, I am holding off on buying the iPhone 5.
This is 100% correct. "iPod Out" and "Plays Music Through My Car System w/Steering Wheel Control" are two different things.
iPod Out (for the handful of cars that supported it) had an Apple TV appearance and sexier fonts. That's it. "iPod Out" is a brand name for a protocol that no one uses.
If you own a car that just used the white Apple USB cable, everything will work the way it did. If your car used a Y cable or other connection then adding the new adapter will work.
BJ
I don't believe so. If your Hyundai uses ONLY a USB cable to attach your iPhone to the car, I think you will be fine...
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I don't think we know if Analog Audio out is going to be available from the adapter, so if you use a Y cable with a 30-Pin on one end, and a USB and 3.5mm on the other, it's not clear the 3.5mm will get any audio.
This is the typical cable I use in a rental car with an AUX connection. I want a SINGLE connection to my iPhone (30 Pin) and the other end has USB for power, and 3.5mm for Analog Audio out for the Aux port on the radio.
Some seem to think there is a DAC in the adapter, but I am not so sure...
It would make the $29 price make more sense...
I didn't miss the point, I redirected those quoting me back to the point I was making and that is BT vs USB in terms of sound quality shows no difference on my Ford Sync system as I've switched back and forth to test it. I never dismissed BT isn't an option for others, in fact I was quite clear by quoting the guy with a MBZ that in his case it's likely his car/BT Set up. (see post #84) Lastly, I did address that BT Doesn't charge the phone by clearly noting that I plug mine in between sales calls. (see post #95)
Again, no where did I dismiss anything for everyone. I specifically quoted someone particular in my replies. I also never implied anyone elses concerns were stupid or invalid. Please don't misquote me or infer I called anyone concerns stupid or applied my beliefs to everyone.
So no where in my reply did I say you couldn't charge your phone while simultaneously using BT. Simply buy the car adapter and GPS all day long. Again, my continued point was USB vs BT isn't always a quality drop as per the original quote/person I replied to stated. (See post #71)
I thought I made myself clear in that my phone is in my center console out of sight while charging. No one is going to see my phone nor know it's in there. In 26yrs of driving I've never had my cars broken into by someone hoping to find something. Only ever seen them break in to get something they can see.
Exactly, simply put your phone in your console charging out of sight.
I leave a $20 bill in my glove box for emergency gas money too. However, last I checked, no one has ever seen through the glove box or my center console to warrant them breaking in.
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Apple to release Lightning to HDMI/VGA adaptors soon.
http://9to5mac.com/2012/09/13/apple...-soon/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
http://9to5mac.com/2012/09/13/apple...-soon/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
it doesn't have a built in DAC, there will be no analogue audio (or video) out with the adaptor, therefore if you have a speaker dock that uses the analogue out (most of them according to slashgear) you'll be up the creek
http://www.slashgear.com/iphone-5-w...ssories-even-with-lightning-adapter-13247441/
phew that's good news (not having to pay for another adaptor but that it can do HDMI)
A 2012 Hyundai Tucson. It's not a vehicle related issue, those features just aren't supported in my Tucson's audio system. It's the base model so it doesn't have an in-dash nav, but it does allow you to navigate the full iPod menu (artists, playlists, etc.) using the stereo controls when it's connected using the standard 18-pin connector. It also allows you to listen to music through the bluetooth connection but the ability to change tracks or navigate artists, playlists, etc is gone.
Either way it's a moot point as we've now determine what "iPod Out" is and that it won't be affecting the majority of us.
Good to hear that in the end it is a moot point. However, in your case, I do think it's a vehicle related design item that needs improved. Not an issue, but it must be Hyundai's cost savings measure as it can be done.
http://www.macworld.com/article/1168555/what_apples_new_lightning_connector_means_for_you.html
"Apple has confirmed to Macworld that these adapters support analog and USB audio-out, as well as syncing and charging. However, the adapters dont support video-out or iPod mode, the latter a special mode that lets particular accessories, such as car stereos and some whole-home-audio systems, display your iPods menus on the accessorys own screen. More cryptically, the online Apple Stores product pages note that some 30-pin accessories are not supported.
Astute readers may have noticed that the Lightning connector does not support analog audio-out, but the 30-pin adapters do. Thats because hidden away inside each 30-pin adapter is a digital-to-analog converter (DAC) that converts the Lightning connectors digital audio signal to an analog version. (The inclusion of a DAC explains at least part of the price of the adapters.)"
"Apple has confirmed to Macworld that these adapters support analog and USB audio-out, as well as syncing and charging. However, the adapters dont support video-out or iPod mode, the latter a special mode that lets particular accessories, such as car stereos and some whole-home-audio systems, display your iPods menus on the accessorys own screen. More cryptically, the online Apple Stores product pages note that some 30-pin accessories are not supported.
Astute readers may have noticed that the Lightning connector does not support analog audio-out, but the 30-pin adapters do. Thats because hidden away inside each 30-pin adapter is a digital-to-analog converter (DAC) that converts the Lightning connectors digital audio signal to an analog version. (The inclusion of a DAC explains at least part of the price of the adapters.)"
The second source would be apple's own website. They updated the page of the adapter to say that it supports analog audio out and USB audio, but not video.
Does anyone actually know if "iPod Out" is the same as iPod control via dock?
I own one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-ICFCS15iPBLK-30-Pin-iPhone-Speaker/dp/B005GUAIJM/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
Any idea if the controls on the clock will still work on the iPhone? I've read some people say no and then some people say yes.
Has anyone heard any confirmed word?
Thanks!
I own one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-ICFCS15iPBLK-30-Pin-iPhone-Speaker/dp/B005GUAIJM/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
Any idea if the controls on the clock will still work on the iPhone? I've read some people say no and then some people say yes.
Has anyone heard any confirmed word?
Thanks!
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That dock doesn't specifically mention using iPod out, so I would guess that the dock will work with the adapter.
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My 335i has the the latests combox plus the full media snapin adaptor cradle and the only extra functionalty the media cradle gives me is streaming of movies/videos from my phone and the ipad interface on the screen.
Using the usb port will still give me album cover art, facebook, twitter etc and full control via iDrive so I am not too concerned.