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Absolute insanity that not even the Prores capable iPhones Pro get USB-C, or even just the USB 3.0 iteration of Lightning that a few of the pre-USB-C iPads Pro got.

Ten years of USB 2.0 transfer speeds.

Courageously embarrassing! 👏😆
The only thing worse would be portless...syncing hundreds of GB over wifi isn't something I even want to try.
 
Not entirely sure as I use iPhones. Just what I see the the android boys whine about.


If you use brand-name cables with the proper markings & certification, it's generally not an issue (assuming that the device is also up to spec). There's lot of garbage cables and devices out there...cutting corners...cuts corners.
 
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I prefer cables whereever possible. My (windows) notebook has Wifi 6, but it always stands at the same place. So I connected it with a cable, which also saves bandwidth for others in the Wifi network.
 
Wifi6 is a lot faster than Lightning. (depending on your router that is.)
In theory. I tried it a while back and it was substantially slower (on an ac network), which I suspect is due to both protocol and sync overhead (thousands of small files). Add in the fragility of the sync code itself, and it's not something I've given a second chance after multiple attempts, corrupt media databases, and rebuilt devices.
 
Definitely a big improvement over the 30-pin connector, but I wish Apple would have waited just a bit more in 2012 and directly put a USB-C port to the iPhone.

There's a good argument that the USB-C connector would not exist had Lightning not shown the way. Think about it: the USB consortium was happily stuck in its ways with a connector that was as ubiquitous as the power plug all of us have in our homes – or even more since USB is worldwide and there are multiple power plugs around the world. The USB-A connector was the same for over 20 years and wasn't going anywhere until Apple introduced a small reversible connector.

The USB-C 1.0 standard was submitted and finalized 2 years after Apple announced Lighting, so it's unlikely that Apple could've waited for anything. My only wish is that Apple had just opened up the Lightning standard and we'd be using what I think is a better connector, that's slimmer and more robust than USB-C.
 
There's actually a decent chance that Lightning is officially behind us right now. As of the iPhone event, every new product Apple announces from now on will likely have USB-C.
 
This is similar to when they kept the base storage on the phone at 16gb to the point where it was embarrassing, shoot 30 mins 4k on your 16gb iPhone.

Pro Res on your iPhone with 2015 data transfer speeds

Thank god they are being forced to remove it.
 
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In theory. I tried it a while back and it was substantially slower (on an ac network), which I suspect is due to both protocol and sync overhead (thousands of small files). Add in the fragility of the sync code itself, and it's not something I've given a second chance after multiple attempts, corrupt media databases, and rebuilt devices.
It's that way in practice IME. Not perfect by any means, but it actually works pretty well.
 
Still love Lightening and its mechanical robustness for phones. Perfect for its intended purpose where there will be many thousands of insertions over its lifetime in imperfect environments.
Agreed on the hardware robustness. While I would still prefer USB-C for the phone for the 1-connector fits all model, I haven't broken a single lightning port over the years, but somehow did snap the little tongue in the middle of a USB-C port on 2 devices now.

That said, the intended purpose was to charge, and to transfer data. It excels at the power transfer, but is quite poor at data transfer 10 years later.

I can connect my EOS R5 & R3 directly to my iPad mini 6 and copy RAW files quickly. Try the same (with the Apple USB-C to Lightning cable) and nothing happens. Both my iPhone 13 Pro, and the iPad were picked up on the same day, and one has true Pro IO, where the device with Pro in the name, doesn't. :(
 
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There's a good argument that the USB-C connector would not exist had Lightning not shown the way. Think about it: the USB consortium was happily stuck in its ways with a connector that was as ubiquitous as the power plug all of us have in our homes – or even more since USB is worldwide and there are multiple power plugs around the world. The USB-A connector was the same for over 20 years and wasn't going anywhere until Apple introduced a small reversible connector.

The USB-C 1.0 standard was submitted and finalized 2 years after Apple announced Lighting, so it's unlikely that Apple could've waited for anything. My only wish is that Apple had just opened up the Lightning standard and we'd be using what I think is a better connector, that's slimmer and more robust than USB-C.
They claimed the USB-C form online was derived from both USB 2.0 Micro-B connector and the reversibility of Apple Lightning connector in the end.
The Type-C connector standard went from concept in July 2013 to finalized spec on August 12, 2014. While the new connector may bear striking similarities to the size of the USB 2.0 Micro-B connector used on many smartphones today, and the reversibility of Apple’s Lightning connector, USB Type-C was driven by rapidly evolving product industrial design requirements.
Sometime in the future I hope the USB-C Apple implements for the iPhone is USB4, like the recent iPad Pro.
 
Definitely a big improvement over the 30-pin connector, but I wish Apple would have waited just a bit more in 2012 and directly put a USB-C port to the iPhone.
I expect there was quite a bit more time between when when Lightning was designed and when USB-C was released. Also, I'm pretty sure USB-C was, in part, a reaction to Lightning.
 
The only reason apple hasn’t done a usbc phone yet is because they are being strategic to milk out the most money from phone cycles.
I see the same thing with the Notch.
slowly make it smaller giving the newer phones a better look making people wanting to upgrade even if their phone is fine.

They will release a usbc phone when a year doesn’t have much change. Boom slap usbc on that phone and people will upgrade their perfectly fine iPhone 14 because of a cable connector.

All about money.
 
Best connector ever. I love this form factor, it is easy to use, easy to plug and stays firmly attached. They should make a version 2, with faster transfer speeds. Would be great!
 
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If I knew Apple would have a new USB-C iPhone next year with a physical SIM card slot I would wait. However in case they remove the physical SIM card slot next year I think I'll get this year's iPhone to replace my 6S.

If next year's phone has USB-C and a physical SIM card slot then I'll probably upgrade to that.
 
I wish USB-C was more like the Lightning connector (I don't say it has to be the Lightning connector).

Lightnings straight male connector is much better and sturdier than USB-Cs male/female connector.

It's also easier to clean from lint and crap that accumulate in devices you keep in your pocket.
 
I can’t remember the last time I plugged my phone into anything
I regularly plug in my iphone. For backup and putting new music on it.
Apart from charging and car play, of course.

It takes forever because lightning is very slow. It's neither the PCs cached disk array, USB 3 port nor the iphone's flash that limits the transfer speed.
 
The next iPhone will be port-less and will introduce:
Airdrop 2. “This time it works!” ©
But it will be even more expensive in the EU because they will be forced to include a MagSafe puck with a USBC cable.
 
Not entirely sure as I use iPhones. Just what I see the the android boys whine about.



I've been using USB-C for 5+ years and have never had an issue with compatibility of any type or have any broken cables/connectors.

If you use brand-name cables with the proper markings & certification, it's generally not an issue (assuming that the device is also up to spec). There's lot of garbage cables and devices out there...cutting corners...cuts corners.

This 1,000%.
 
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I regularly plug in my iphone. For backup and putting new music on it.
Apart from charging and car play, of course.

It takes forever because lightning is very slow. It's neither the PCs cached disk array, USB 3 port nor the iphone's flash that limits the transfer speed.
I’m sure it’s annoying. I just stopped doing all of those things a long time ago. I use Apple Music and my cloud library for music, airdrop to transfer files, I charge with qi pads or MagSafe. I have a wireless CarPlay adapter in my car.
 
I’m sure it’s annoying. I just stopped doing all of those things a long time ago. I use Apple Music and my cloud library for music, airdrop to transfer files, I charge with qi pads or MagSafe. I have a wireless CarPlay adapter in my car.

Apple music lacks a lot of stuff for me. And then I need constant internet, which is a bad idea when there is no coverage or roaming. That's why I got a 256GB model, and it was easy to sync over all the stuff from my ipod classic to the iphone mini. I was just surprised that it didn't go quicker, despite going from a miniscule HDD to a flash storage.

For single files, I just synchronize via google drive (had my own owncloud installation before on a mac mini g4, but I didn't want to put more effort into something I'll get for free elsewhere).

I dislike charging over wireless. It wastes so much energy (which is a problem with a battery pack or if the phone has a high load, it tends to overheat). And when I hike or drive, it's easy for the phone to move around and loose connection.
On the plus side, the connectors are less prone to wear out.
 
I've been using USB-C for 5+ years and have never had an issue with compatibility of any type or have any broken cables/connectors.

Just out of my head:
- Nintendo Switch Charger couldn't charge my android phone (Blackberry One), it aborts after 2 or 3 seconds
- Nintendo Switch on my Sandberg Solar panel with integrated power pack shorted out the LEDs on it, but only when connected via USB C, didn't happen with a USB A to C cable.
- ipad air 4 has severe issues fast charging from 3rd party chargers when there is an USB A to C cable involved.
- same with iphone mini, but here it depends more on the lightning cable. The original iphone cable with an adapter works worse than using a third party USB A to lightning cable
- if I charge a powerbank with a powerbank (e.g. the one with solar) connected by an USB-C cable, which way will it charge?
- mini/micro usb sockets are prone to breaking. Had an XPeria Pro that went back to the shop two times because of that. Most of the times I was able to carefully bend it back into shape with a small screwdriver. In my experience, it got a lot better with USB-C.
- and of course plenty of broken chargers. One had a bad transformer and gave me a shock, another one went up in smoke (that was an original phone charger, just after a few weeks).
- there are different classifications of USB-C cables, one has to be aware of it, especially when drawing more than 30 Watts.

to be fair, Apple chargers and PSUs (mac mini was in service for over 15 years with original PSU) have so far outlasted most others and did not went up in flames. However, there are still compatibility issues between apple devices, the ipad2 charger couldn't fast charge my ipad air 4.

it isn't overall terrible and I recognize it's getting better. For me, I mostly look forward to USB-C because of the transfer speeds. Synchronizing/Backuping my 256GB phone takes a long time, I wouldn't want to do it with a TB phone in a couple of years.
 
I don't care whether it's lighting or USB-C, just make them uniform across the board. I'm getting tired of carrying half a dozen different cables while traveling. 😢

Tech travel checklist:
  1. micro-usb for battery banks
  2. usb-c to lighting for iphone/airpods
  3. usb-c for ipad
  4. watch charger for apple watch
  5. usb-a to lighting to use the battery bank to charge my iphone (not the same as point 2 cuz apple now ships out usb-c to lightning in the box)
  6. usb-a to usb-c to use the battery bank for my ipad (not the same as point 3 cuz apple now ships out usb-c to usb-c in the box)
  7. qty 3 wall plugs
 
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