Exactly you purchased the first of a product at release day and complain because of the lack of 3rd party support... Your the troll.
I can't imagine the temper tantrum you will have when the iPhone goes completely wireless.
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Exactly you purchased the first of a product at release day and complain because of the lack of 3rd party support... Your the troll.
I can't imagine the temper tantrum you will have when the iPhone goes completely wireless.
I've received the two adapters I ordered (one I just ordered last week), and they are working great. Everything I've tried it with - 2007 VW car stereo, XtremeMac Luna Voyager, iHome alarm clock, Elevation Dock, and standard 30-pin cable - works without issue. Now, the adapters aren't ideal with the docks - I figure I'll be spending some money later this year or early next year on new speaker docks for my iPhone 5, but the adapter allows them work in the meantime. And the main thing I can't easily replace - my car - works perfectly with the adapter. I'd say Apple has made this switch as easy as it could be. And the advantages of the lightning cable - stronger, smaller, reversible, etc. are well worth it.
You've already received an adapter that you ordered last week? I've pretty much moved past getting all bent out of shape over this issue, but I am still waiting to receive the adapter I ordered a few weeks ago. It was just shipped this weekend. Well, I guess it's good to know it should probably work when I finally get it.
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That may be true but it does not mean that you cannot call Apple out for a bad approach to releasing this new tech.
There were better ways to do this...Apple chose the path that generated the most profits with no regard to customers.
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There is NO reason for the lack of third party support so yeah its appropriate to call them out on that.
Apple could have done this much better....they just chose profits and secrecy over customers.
Sounds like Thunderbolt...
Oh wait, I guess that is just normal in the technological world when a new interface is released.
I was disappointed that it couldn't charge faster, but oh well.
As for the 3rd party accessories, I guess we'll just have to wait.
Oh wait, I guess that is just normal in the technological world when a new interface is released.
I was disappointed that it couldn't charge faster, but oh well.
As for the 3rd party accessories, I guess we'll just have to wait.
No. I bought an ADAPTER created by APPLE. I'm not complaining about third party support necessarily. If Apple is going to CONTROL every aspect of lightning, then they NEED to ensure that it functions with recently released pieces of technology.
Doubt wired technology will disappear over night. It will not happen in the near future, given the investments into lightning technology. And the fact that there's no way in hell I'm using my wireless carrier to transmit data, nor WiFi is necessarily faster, and bluetooth still has bugs.
The entire "Cloud and Wireless" dream is far off on the horizon still, unfortunately. As is witricity and true wireless charging.
And almost 2 years later, and how absent thunderbolt is! Oh wait, that is unless you have a SSD computer only, and have an overly priced external.
Thunderbolt is worse than firewire ever was. Way too overpriced, and unnecessary for the average consumer.
FYI, when I first tried the adapter in my car it did not work and the music just came out of the iPhone speaker, but did charge. When I unplugged the adapter my iPhone still indicated it was charging. I rebooted my iPhone and since then it worked perfectly. Not sure why but might be worth trying for people having issues with it working.
With USB3, Thunderbolt is currently very much a niche standard - but the people currently using are getting great usage out of it, and as time goes on the use will (most likely) grow. Especially once we get around to items that can actually use the speed.
The iPhone 5 isn't the only device using lightning...the Nanos you mentioned will continue to get thinner and make use of it. Additionally, it's not that the iPhones chasis can't accomodate a 30 pin adapter, it's that internally the 30 pin adapter will take up a lot more space. When that is taken into consideration with the fact the iPhone is thinner than their previous phones then yes, space probably is a concern.
Apple having other thinner devices with a 30pin adapter is somewhat irrelevant, none of them were iPhones and thus they had different internals.
Honestly, I really hope they stop making the phone thinner. The ligheter aspect does kind of start making it feel cheap, however, it is getting to the point where I feel like I have to baby it all the time to prevent bending it in half.
I'd have to agree. It's possible to like the new connector and think Apple rushed it out.
Despite the rampant defense of Apple in this thread, it certainly feels rushed. We know that at one point including adapters with every phone was something Apple considered (it was actually on their website that way for early pre-orders). However, now it's been almost a month since launch and they're just starting to trickle in for purchase. Obviously something happened.
I also can't recall an iPhone launch since the very first model that was completely void of accessories at the Apple Store. Think of how much Apple lost on case sales alone by not having cases approved prior to launch.
IMO, that all adds up to a product rushed to market.
Despite the rampant defense of Apple in this thread, it certainly feels rushed. We know that at one point including adapters with every phone was something Apple considered (it was actually on their website that way for early pre-orders). However, now it's been almost a month since launch and they're just starting to trickle in for purchase. Obviously something happened.
I also can't recall an iPhone launch since the very first model that was completely void of accessories at the Apple Store. Think of how much Apple lost on case sales alone by not having cases approved prior to launch.
IMO, that all adds up to a product rushed to market.
I agree
Glad to see I'm not alone.
It won't grow like Firewire did.
Firewire was able to match the throughput of hard drives read and write speeds at the time.
At present, USB and FW can pretty much do that now. Thunderbolt is of no value unless you have RAID or a SSD on both ends to make Thunderbolt worth the speed.
We don't see RAID ever becoming common to the consumer, as it's too expensive, unreliable and large in size, and SSD's are too damn expensive.
Thunderbolt won't become a consumer level interface anytime soon. But could you imagine if Apple stripped the USB ports and forced us into USB? That's what they're doing here virtually, but for iOS.
So you'd rather have Apple delay the iPhone 5 launch to ensure accessory availability at launch?
I'm sorry, but did you even read what I said? The possibility posed was absolutely not that Apple should have held the iPhone for accessory availability, but rather that the lack of accessory availability is one indicator that the iPhone may have been rushed to market.
Three simple facts.
1. 30-pin Dock Connector is over 9 years old and wasn't designed for more modern requirements and design constraints in mind.
2. Apple is known for secrecy.
3. While Apple screwed up adapters availability (IMO, it should've been included with iPhone 5), cables are not at all hard to find.
1. 30-pin Dock Connector is over 9 years old and wasn't designed for more modern requirements and design constraints in mind.
2. Apple is known for secrecy.
3. While Apple screwed up adapters availability (IMO, it should've been included with iPhone 5), cables are not at all hard to find.
This article explains the innovation of the lightning connector. Clearly it was well thought out.
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Let's face it, there really are no new functions lightning brings that the 30-pin couldn't provide. Yes, it's smaller and sexier, but on the whole it's just an unnecessary move forward at this time, given how unprepared every facet of it's launch has been:
1.) Adapters aren't readily available
2.) Cables aren't readily available
3.) NO accessory support
4.) NO sign of third-party products before year end
And, come to find out that the cable lightning/30 pin adapter I had ordered, won't even work with my in-car iPod set up! I am basically required to spend $300 to update the accessory, when the system is hardly a few years old (Link). Apparently, the regular adapter, and the cable flavor of the adapter, are different in hardware and functionality. Furthermore, the cable variant's lightning end of the adapter is significantly larger than the standard lightning/USB cable, thus even the cable adapter is useless unless you go "naked" with your iPhone, as it won't fit most cases.
So I am stuck waiting for an adapter I can't even buy in a store or order online within a month, that will not work with my current accessory which is relatively new compared to most 30-pin accessories, that is too large to function with my case?
Wow really?
