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Like Apple, Meta is Working on Humanoid Robots

Good to see multiple companies working on the idea. Maybe in the next 5 to 7 years an actual product will be available from either one of the companies.
 
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And kinky sex stuff. All of it will happen.
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HobeSoundDarryl said:
Humans have always looked for "cheaper labor"... not just in business structures but also at home. We seem to picture this nirvana where we can create "something" to do all of the work for us... but then still somehow pay the bills and similar. Perhaps we dream of what is implied in episodes of Star Trek-type Sci-Fi, where our future is no longer dominated by the pursuit of money. However, even if we eventually have the technology to replace upwards of all of our human jobs, the transition from here to there is quite foggy.

If you want to see the point: imagine a personal "Data" available for $20K. Would there be any buyers? Make that $10K. $5K. And if you had a Data able to do anything you can do, what would you have him do? Conceptually, up to everything you don't like/want to do. Data wouldn't care as he lacks the emotions to covet happiness. And then what would you do? Only things you actually like/want to do.

For many of us, the mundane parts of life would be the first things to delegate to Data. And the big joys of life would be the first things to fill in the time. Why go do that "boring" job every day when I'd rather be ___________? If Data can take over that boring stuff and get paid to do it, I can shift to ____________ full time.

It's that transition though that is complicated. Big imaginations can imagine the end of monetary-driven lives. It's not that hard to imagine. But how do we go from chasing dollars every day to not caring about such a chase? What are the steps? How do we phase out pursuit of wealth while phasing in all this labor replacement without us biologicals starving/evicted/etc for lacking the income to pay the bills still demanded until the transition would be complete.

Pair A.I. smart enough to at least match H.I. (Human Intelligence) with mechanical bodies like our own and we've created slave labor able to do anything we can do... and that labor won't require pay, vacations, sick time, etc. Don't waste your valuable time fixing that _____ or mowing that lawn or sitting in traffic... let Data fill in for you on that kind of stuff. You then do whatever you want to do in all of your waking moments.

I "think" the goal of this kind of stuff is towards that... though I'm not so sure of the motivations going along with that vision. Perhaps the motivations are simply to cut labor costs by replacing humans with bots... but preserve the monetary models largely "as is." Eventually, all those pesky humans can be cut from the company books and let the bots do all of the work for nearly $0 labor cost. And somehow the humans get to continue to live "normal" lives anyway, though that part doesn't seem to be well defined by anyone except in loose fantasy, often presented after we've jumped from the "as is" to that kind of finish line. The middle in between the two seems "complicated."
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Robots replacing humans is a bad idea.
 
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Facebook parent company Meta is investing heavily in AI-powered humanoid robots, according to a report from Bloomberg. Meta wants to create robots that can act like humans and help people with physical tasks, and has developed a new team in its Reality Labs hardware to work on the project.

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Meta's first focus will be on robots that can do household chores, but the company's overarching goal is to develop AI, sensors, and software for robots that can be manufactured and sold to third-party companies to allow those companies to develop their own robots. Meta is aiming to be the Android of robots.

Robot technology is not currently advanced enough to allow robots to fold clothes, do dishes, or complete other household chores, but Meta feels that its work in artificial intelligence and virtual reality could boost robot development.

In 2025, Meta will spend around $65 billion on artificial intelligence infrastructure, robotics, and virtual reality products. Meta plans to build some of its own hardware, and work with robotics manufacturers to build prototypes.

If Meta does end up creating a humanoid robot, it could compete with an Apple-designed robot in the future. Apple is working on both humanoid and non-humanoid robots, but the company's work on humanoid robotics is in the proof-of-concept stage and years away from launching.

Non-humanoid robots could come sooner. Apple is said to be working on a tabletop robot with an iPad-style display that's attached to a robotic arm, and such a product could come as early as 2026 or 2027.

Apple robotics researchers recently shared details on a lamp-like robot prototype with lifelike movements and human-like interaction capabilities.

Article Link: Like Apple, Meta is Working on Humanoid Robots
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No efford so you have time to do effort in the Gym. What a stupid life
 
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Robots replacing humans is a bad idea.
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Likely true. But profit rules nearly all thought and near free labor looks much more profitable. Eventually, there is one guy or gal with all of the money… and then a robot replaces them too. Once all the money & wealth is consolidated down to one person or bot, then what? I don’t know. Robots don’t need monetary systems. They don’t have the emotions or ego to covet ideas like “richest” or “elite” or “I’m better than you because I own more than you.” They lack many of our fundamental needs such as food, a home, emotional connections, etc which are all generally facilitated through exchanges of money.

If a bot can’t eat food for a year, it neither starves nor cares. Even if you think about electricity as its food, it doesn’t crave piling up more or “the most” electricity nor cares if electricity ceases. We have bots on Mars or zipping through space now. None worry about running out of food or shelter. None covet to possess the most of ANY thing. None will meet up with other bots and want to demonstrate they are the superior bot, nor compete to try to catch the eye of some hot bot nearby. Size of bank accounts will only matter to bots while we- as creator- force our dominant game on them. Else, why should a bot care at all themselves?

What are we if the pursuit of money doesn’t dominate our time & mind? What are we doing all day? Are we able to live in such a world without the same dominating goal in play for all of us? As we rush as fast as we can to create something smarter than ourselves and give it some kind of mobility and physical structure in our own image, these kinds of questions need answers too. And few seem to be giving them much proactive thought. Instead, it’s as if we want to rush there and then figure this part out. I just don’t foresee the existing systems accommodating some kind of titanic shift to some new system/order. Or is that Titanic with “Iceberg, dead ahead!” To be determined.
 
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oh… kids are going to make these things fight, right?
It’ll be like a physical manifestation of the old Mac versus Windows “battles”.
 
Apple is working on Humanoid Robot Technology? 🤣😂 I'm going to get in front of this one... Apple will drop the ball on this too like they did with the car.
 
Will these be cancelled in a decade after spending 10s of billions as well?
 
I honestly don’t see the point of humanoid robots. We already have robots that are built specialised for the task that they do. Humans are terribly inefficient when it comes to specialised tasks. Why build a robot in our form to now do the same?
 
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HobeSoundDarryl said:
Humans have always looked for "cheaper labor"... not just in business structures but also at home. We seem to picture this nirvana where we can create "something" to do all of the work for us... but then still somehow pay the bills and similar. Perhaps we dream of what is implied in episodes of Star Trek-type Sci-Fi, where our future is no longer dominated by the pursuit of money. However, even if we eventually have the technology to replace upwards of all of our human jobs, the transition from here to there is quite foggy.

If you want to see the point: imagine a personal "Data" available for $20K. Would there be any buyers? Make that $10K. $5K. And if you had a Data able to do anything you can do, what would you have him do? Conceptually, up to everything you don't like/want to do. Data wouldn't care as he lacks the emotions to covet happiness. And then what would you do? Only things you actually like/want to do.

For many of us, the mundane parts of life would be the first things to delegate to Data. And the big joys of life would be the first things to fill in the time. Why go do that "boring" job every day when I'd rather be ___________? If Data can take over that boring stuff and get paid to do it, I can shift to ____________ full time.

It's that transition though that is complicated. Big imaginations can imagine the end of monetary-driven lives. It's not that hard to imagine. But how do we go from chasing dollars every day to not caring about such a chase? What are the steps? How do we phase out pursuit of wealth while phasing in all this labor replacement without us biologicals starving/evicted/etc for lacking the income to pay the bills still demanded until the transition would be complete.

Pair A.I. smart enough to at least match H.I. (Human Intelligence) with mechanical bodies like our own and we've created slave labor able to do anything we can do... and that labor won't require pay, vacations, sick time, etc. Don't waste your valuable time fixing that _____ or mowing that lawn or sitting in traffic... let Data fill in for you on that kind of stuff. You then do whatever you want to do in all of your waking moments.

I "think" the goal of this kind of stuff is towards that... though I'm not so sure of the motivations going along with that vision. Perhaps the motivations are simply to cut labor costs by replacing humans with bots... but preserve the monetary models largely "as is." Eventually, all those pesky humans can be cut from the company books and let the bots do all of the work for nearly $0 labor cost. And somehow the humans get to continue to live "normal" lives anyway, though that part doesn't seem to be well defined by anyone except in loose fantasy, often presented after we've jumped from the "as is" to that kind of finish line. The middle in between the two seems "complicated."
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Luckily there are many intermediate steps from point A to B. Like finding a roomba that won’t run over a pile of dog sh%^ while I’m not home…….
 
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