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Lion-Compatible Quicken 2007 for Mac Promised in 'Early Spring'
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I tried iBank first. It's reporting capability is insufficient for me to run my law firm. I didn't make it more than 2 weeks through my 30 day trial before I had to give it up.
I was very disappointed. iBank has a lot to recommend it. Maybe version 5 will be better.
For now, I've decided to stick with Quicken 2012. It works fine, the downloaded software from Staples.com is non-refundable and it has many features I like. I'm also persuaded by the grousing that making a patch for Quicken 2007 to become Lion Compatible, without adding new features, doesn't feel quite right in 2012. Maybe if there's a new version of Quicken that's really modern I'll move back to the mac side. For now, what I have works fine, so I'll just go ahead with my plans.
really?
So let me get this straight:
They announce Quicken 2007 will die, so I look at a number of other programs, finally settle on Quicken Essentials for Mac (which is grossly inferior to Q2007), take all the time to upgrade my accounts and learn how to use the glitchy program, and NOW they are saying they are going to make Quicken 2007 Lion compatible? Find me a bridge, I want to jump.
So let me get this straight:
They announce Quicken 2007 will die, so I look at a number of other programs, finally settle on Quicken Essentials for Mac (which is grossly inferior to Q2007), take all the time to upgrade my accounts and learn how to use the glitchy program, and NOW they are saying they are going to make Quicken 2007 Lion compatible? Find me a bridge, I want to jump.
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Not that anybody on here will have an answer, but I have to wonder out loud how this puts them any closer to a Mac version of Quicken that's on par with Windows functionality and has a modern Cocoa UI?
They started building a wholly modern version in QEM but forgot to include most of the features people want. Wouldn't the way forward be to build additional functionality into QEM rather than on top of this franken-build of a 5 year old version of the app?
The only mention of QEM in the press release or linked FAQ states that you'll be able to migrate your data out of QEM and into this new version of 2007. Sound to anybody else like QEM is EOL'd?
They started building a wholly modern version in QEM but forgot to include most of the features people want. Wouldn't the way forward be to build additional functionality into QEM rather than on top of this franken-build of a 5 year old version of the app?
The only mention of QEM in the press release or linked FAQ states that you'll be able to migrate your data out of QEM and into this new version of 2007. Sound to anybody else like QEM is EOL'd?
who cares!?!?! they abandoned us!
i think for some ppl, this is good news. I can understand companies with years of data and processes built in.
But for me, ***** 'em. Seriously.
They abandoned the Mac community.
I firmly believe that. They refused to build a decent mac product b/c their sales numbers were low.
I can 'somewhat' understand from a corporation, 'hey-we-don't-have-alot-of-money', but on the other hand, other companies stuck with the Mac community.
And the only reason Intuit is coming back, is no doubt b/c they see Apple's profits, they see how many Macs are being sold etc... so they see an opportunity.
Maybe they could have been part of the successful comeback rather than sitting on their proverbial a$$es while mac users scrambled for a decent accounting package.
we use iBank for personal stuff and I use AccountEdge for my business.
They say to never say never, but let's just say that I'm 99% likely to not ever use an Intuit product again.
i think for some ppl, this is good news. I can understand companies with years of data and processes built in.
But for me, ***** 'em. Seriously.
They abandoned the Mac community.
I firmly believe that. They refused to build a decent mac product b/c their sales numbers were low.
I can 'somewhat' understand from a corporation, 'hey-we-don't-have-alot-of-money', but on the other hand, other companies stuck with the Mac community.
And the only reason Intuit is coming back, is no doubt b/c they see Apple's profits, they see how many Macs are being sold etc... so they see an opportunity.
Maybe they could have been part of the successful comeback rather than sitting on their proverbial a$$es while mac users scrambled for a decent accounting package.
we use iBank for personal stuff and I use AccountEdge for my business.
They say to never say never, but let's just say that I'm 99% likely to not ever use an Intuit product again.
Campbell?
One thing I've been wondering for a while.
Bill Campbell is the Chairman of Intuit and used to be the CEO.
The same Bill Campbell has been on the Board of Directors of Apple for some time, and continues there. He was reputed to be a trusted confidante of Mr. Jobs.
So what was up with that lack of OSX support anyway? I could never figure it out.
One thing I've been wondering for a while.
Bill Campbell is the Chairman of Intuit and used to be the CEO.
The same Bill Campbell has been on the Board of Directors of Apple for some time, and continues there. He was reputed to be a trusted confidante of Mr. Jobs.
So what was up with that lack of OSX support anyway? I could never figure it out.
Can't they just make a Widget that does what Quicken 2007 does? Quicken isn't Call of Duty but a simple home finance app.
Or, were their sales numbers low because they refused to build a decent bug-free Mac version? Windowz sales were likely higher because Windowz users are used to and expect buggy software.
How much of this is going to be a "re-engineering" vs "embedding rosetta into Quicken". I gave the latter a kludge award on TechPerfect because it's a ridiculously dumb idea, and knowing Intuit, I have a feeling that is exactly what their doing.
I'd love it if they could clarify what exactly they mean by "re-engineering".
I'd love it if they could clarify what exactly they mean by "re-engineering".
I have been waiting for this.
I am a 10 year user of Quicken for Mac. Quicken 2007 has all the reports, classes etc that I need to run my business. The program is simple, yet comprehensive. When it was announced Lion would not run Quicken 2007, I went on a hunt for comparable financial software... I tried Mint, Wave, Moneydance... you name it. None of them have the features for Investments or flexible reporting that I require. My last move was to try Quicken 2012 for Windows. What a convoluted mess! It doesn't allow you to turn off Quickfill, the ability to do split transactions is more complicated than it needs to be and its ability to upload a file from Quicken for Mac is a joke and not to be trusted.
So for the past several months I have been emailing Intuit to either fix Essentials for Mac or upgrade Quicken 2007. Apparently I am not alone!
I am a 10 year user of Quicken for Mac. Quicken 2007 has all the reports, classes etc that I need to run my business. The program is simple, yet comprehensive. When it was announced Lion would not run Quicken 2007, I went on a hunt for comparable financial software... I tried Mint, Wave, Moneydance... you name it. None of them have the features for Investments or flexible reporting that I require. My last move was to try Quicken 2012 for Windows. What a convoluted mess! It doesn't allow you to turn off Quickfill, the ability to do split transactions is more complicated than it needs to be and its ability to upload a file from Quicken for Mac is a joke and not to be trusted.
So for the past several months I have been emailing Intuit to either fix Essentials for Mac or upgrade Quicken 2007. Apparently I am not alone!
I wish Intuit would just go out of business. Their products are confusing, their support sucks, and their Mac products have always been an afterthought. A company like this does not deserve our support.
You haven't yet figured out that Apple's Board is in the business of stealing Apple's ideas, not supporting them?
Maybe Apple's Board of Directors can look Intuit?
Who are the members of Apple's board of directors?
Arthur D. Levinson, Ph.D.
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Genentech, Inc.
William V. Campbell
Chairman and former CEO
Intuit, Inc.
Tim Cook
CEO
Apple
Millard S. Drexler
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
J. Crew
Albert Gore, Jr.
Former Vice President of the United States
Robert A. Iger
President and Chief Executive Officer
The Walt Disney Company
Andrea Jung
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Avon Products, Inc.
Ronald D. Sugar, Ph.D.
Former Chairman and CEO
Northrop Grumman Corporation
Who are the members of Apple's board of directors?
Arthur D. Levinson, Ph.D.
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Genentech, Inc.
William V. Campbell
Chairman and former CEO
Intuit, Inc.
Tim Cook
CEO
Apple
Millard S. Drexler
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
J. Crew
Albert Gore, Jr.
Former Vice President of the United States
Robert A. Iger
President and Chief Executive Officer
The Walt Disney Company
Andrea Jung
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Avon Products, Inc.
Ronald D. Sugar, Ph.D.
Former Chairman and CEO
Northrop Grumman Corporation
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I admit that Quicken for Mac sucks, and I've heard QuickBooks for Mac is of similar quality, but I wouldn't go quite that far... I actually like TurboTax.
In the nick of time
Believe the new Quicken will only work until December 21, 2012. After that no one needs to make any more entries.
Sheesh. Really lame.
Believe the new Quicken will only work until December 21, 2012. After that no one needs to make any more entries.
Sheesh. Really lame.
Before upgrading to Lion I tried several alternatives to Quicken 2007 including iBank and Moneydance. I like Moneydance except for a couple of features: the calendar not showing transactions and the fact tht it wouldn't warn about doublicate check entries. So I've continued running Quicken via virtualized Snow Leopard. At any point that Quicken becomes more lame or requires more money, I'm jumping to Moneydance for good, and hopefully by then they will have made those couple of improvements.
QfM again? Really?
Quicken started out, some time in the late 80s, as a Mac only product. I adopted it then and have been using it ever since. Like others here, I spent much time on their (old) Quicken Community boards, adding my voice to those of others who really needed the components of Quicken for Mac 2007. Yes, it looks antique, and yes, there are snazzy (I guess) things like "envelope" or "bucket" budgeting, but for people who want to do more than track their checks and deposit statements it is very powerful.
I still run Snow Leopard because I can't run QfM 07 under Lion (and I don't particularly want to set up a partition to run both OS X editions.) No other product I've read about does all of what I need that QfM 07 does.
I am convinced that writing a complete, ground-up personal finance package is very difficult. What, exactly, is the value of a foreign account at any given moment? What's the exchange rate? Whose published exchange rate is "correct"? What's the current worth of a stock you own now that the company whose stock you originally bought has been bought by another company? It's not that those questions are impossible to answer; it's that this piece of software has to to "know" how to track any holding--automatically.
This is not to say I have any sympathy with a company that has so systematically abused a group of its users. The question is, Why didn't they put enough personnel on the QfM development team in the first place? And, given that on their TurboTax side (btw, TurboTax started out as MacInTax), they sell a single product that works beautifully under both OS X and Windows, why can't they do the same for Quicken?
ButI'll hold out on Lion until Intuit produces a complete list of what this newly announced product will do.
Quicken started out, some time in the late 80s, as a Mac only product. I adopted it then and have been using it ever since. Like others here, I spent much time on their (old) Quicken Community boards, adding my voice to those of others who really needed the components of Quicken for Mac 2007. Yes, it looks antique, and yes, there are snazzy (I guess) things like "envelope" or "bucket" budgeting, but for people who want to do more than track their checks and deposit statements it is very powerful.
I still run Snow Leopard because I can't run QfM 07 under Lion (and I don't particularly want to set up a partition to run both OS X editions.) No other product I've read about does all of what I need that QfM 07 does.
I am convinced that writing a complete, ground-up personal finance package is very difficult. What, exactly, is the value of a foreign account at any given moment? What's the exchange rate? Whose published exchange rate is "correct"? What's the current worth of a stock you own now that the company whose stock you originally bought has been bought by another company? It's not that those questions are impossible to answer; it's that this piece of software has to to "know" how to track any holding--automatically.
This is not to say I have any sympathy with a company that has so systematically abused a group of its users. The question is, Why didn't they put enough personnel on the QfM development team in the first place? And, given that on their TurboTax side (btw, TurboTax started out as MacInTax), they sell a single product that works beautifully under both OS X and Windows, why can't they do the same for Quicken?
ButI'll hold out on Lion until Intuit produces a complete list of what this newly announced product will do.
Quiken 2007??
Why don't they just put a big label on the box saying "We don't really support this product". Ok to answer my own question "2007" saves ink and says the same thing
Why don't they just put a big label on the box saying "We don't really support this product". Ok to answer my own question "2007" saves ink and says the same thing
Yeah, money values have changed since then, so 1 dollar today is not the same as 1 dollar in 2007. The software can't handle today's money values...
Still... it does sound retarded...
Quicken
Let me get this straight. Intuit came out with a new program, "Quicken Essentials" (which works on Lion) and now rather than keep updating that program, they will throw all their resources on a 5 year old program to make it work on Lion.
I purchased Quicken Essentials and it works fine on Lion, however, Quicken seems to have abandoned their NEW Program. Maybe 2 updates in the last 2 years. It doesn't compare with Quicken 2007 (but it does work in Lion).
It's time for Quicken to make a decision - drop Mac support or - start putting out a QUALITY Application.
Let me get this straight. Intuit came out with a new program, "Quicken Essentials" (which works on Lion) and now rather than keep updating that program, they will throw all their resources on a 5 year old program to make it work on Lion.
I purchased Quicken Essentials and it works fine on Lion, however, Quicken seems to have abandoned their NEW Program. Maybe 2 updates in the last 2 years. It doesn't compare with Quicken 2007 (but it does work in Lion).
It's time for Quicken to make a decision - drop Mac support or - start putting out a QUALITY Application.