+1 for Windows version of Quicken 2012 running in a Parallels VM. The Mac version doesn't support online banking. Total deal killer for me. I wouldn't think of touching the Mac version. That's pretty much the only thing I use Parallels for, starting up Win 7 to run Quicken....
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Lion-Compatible Quicken 2007 for Mac Promised in 'Early Spring'
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Why the heck is it so damn difficult for Intuit to simply recompile Quicken 2007 for Intel CPUs? They must still have the source code right?
Can someone enlighten me on why it's such a multi-year pile of fail?
Can someone enlighten me on why it's such a multi-year pile of fail?
Quicken for the Mac is a colossal waste of time...
A retrofitted 2007 version for Lion?! Didn't Intuit have the past 6+ years to rewrite Quicken for post-Rosetta compatibility??? What a bunch of lazy jokers so to hell with them already!
That said, I use iBank now, love it, easy and sensible to use, awesome GUI, you can link directly to most banks through it, and it has sufficient report graphs. There's some kinks though (like a weak investment tracker feature) but I'm confident the developers will improve these areas over time and support the Mac community in general. One feature I would definitely like to see included soon is the use of tags to apply to each transaction in addition to categories, that way you can run more customized reports.
Moneydance I will try soon, don't like it's UI but overall it seems to be robust. From the sounds of various feedback on the two, if a hybrid of iBank & Moneydance ever surfaced that product would be the clear winner for a Mac finance app.
A retrofitted 2007 version for Lion?! Didn't Intuit have the past 6+ years to rewrite Quicken for post-Rosetta compatibility??? What a bunch of lazy jokers so to hell with them already!
That said, I use iBank now, love it, easy and sensible to use, awesome GUI, you can link directly to most banks through it, and it has sufficient report graphs. There's some kinks though (like a weak investment tracker feature) but I'm confident the developers will improve these areas over time and support the Mac community in general. One feature I would definitely like to see included soon is the use of tags to apply to each transaction in addition to categories, that way you can run more customized reports.
Moneydance I will try soon, don't like it's UI but overall it seems to be robust. From the sounds of various feedback on the two, if a hybrid of iBank & Moneydance ever surfaced that product would be the clear winner for a Mac finance app.
Intuit can suck my wiener. I had been a Quicken user for well over a decade, always upgrading when the new version came out. It was the only decent program for personal finance it seemed. Intuit thought this too and stopped all development. Did you know they have 1 part-time Mac engineer working on Quicken? That's it. I know as I work with a former Intuit employee.
I finally was forced off Quicken when Lion came out. Thank goodness I was because now I am using Moneydance and realize what a heaping pile Quicken is in comparison. Seriously. Online bill pay, a register that works properly, quick and easy search. I will absolutely never use Quicken again. Goodbye Intuit, way too little, way too late.
I finally was forced off Quicken when Lion came out. Thank goodness I was because now I am using Moneydance and realize what a heaping pile Quicken is in comparison. Seriously. Online bill pay, a register that works properly, quick and easy search. I will absolutely never use Quicken again. Goodbye Intuit, way too little, way too late.
For its size, Intuit is a TERRIBLE software company. They should be unbelivably ashamed at how bad their products function. And even more so that they have had so little Mac support. Any Sys Admin that has ever worked with the horrificly 1990s bad peer to peer behavior of Quickbooks and the Quickbooks Database manager, knows how much Intuit software development borders on almost criminal action.
I would say that Intuit wins the prize for the worst major software company. Even Adobe and Microsoft look downright amazing in comparison.
I would say that Intuit wins the prize for the worst major software company. Even Adobe and Microsoft look downright amazing in comparison.
Do you really think Spring 2012?
Based on my long history with Intuit, a Lion-compatible version of Quicken 2007 will not be released in the first half of 2012. This announcement is just a ploy to keep current users from jumping ship. My guess is **IF** they release a product, it will be late 2012 or early 2013.
Based on my long history with Intuit, a Lion-compatible version of Quicken 2007 will not be released in the first half of 2012. This announcement is just a ploy to keep current users from jumping ship. My guess is **IF** they release a product, it will be late 2012 or early 2013.
iBank (Sort Of) To The Rescue
I upgraded to Lion and got iBank. It's OK, but for anyone familiar with the SAT, I'd say the following:
iBank : Quicken 2007 :: Mac Quicken : Windows Quicken
I'm hoping that with iBank, I've invested in a product that will continue to grow. Certainly re-releasing a 6-year old product for compatibility with Lion is not the answer, so I'm no longer looking at Intuit to grow its offerings.
One way or the other, for personal finances, I'm done with Intuit.
I upgraded to Lion and got iBank. It's OK, but for anyone familiar with the SAT, I'd say the following:
iBank : Quicken 2007 :: Mac Quicken : Windows Quicken
I'm hoping that with iBank, I've invested in a product that will continue to grow. Certainly re-releasing a 6-year old product for compatibility with Lion is not the answer, so I'm no longer looking at Intuit to grow its offerings.
One way or the other, for personal finances, I'm done with Intuit.
Good Things DO Come to Those That Wait
Quicken Essentials is a faint shadow of the full-featured Quicken 2007, which I still use (Quicken for Mac user since 2000) and have had to park on a reenlisted 17" iMac PPC G4 running Tiger, in addition to primary 27" iMac 3.6 GHz Intel core i5. I think Intel's decision not to continue develop Quicken for the Mac was about as smart as New Coke. It's nice to see that they finally listened to us!
Quicken Essentials is a faint shadow of the full-featured Quicken 2007, which I still use (Quicken for Mac user since 2000) and have had to park on a reenlisted 17" iMac PPC G4 running Tiger, in addition to primary 27" iMac 3.6 GHz Intel core i5. I think Intel's decision not to continue develop Quicken for the Mac was about as smart as New Coke. It's nice to see that they finally listened to us!
I love seeing a company as deserving as Intuit cr@p all over themselves.
They are basically publically saying that they are complete morons.
"We're proud to announce the fact that we are so incredibly aweful, that we are actually going to work on salvaging a hugely buggy and slow five-year-old product - rather than employ resources to build a new product for the current market on the current platform."
WOW!!!
Nothing screams "I hate my customers" like that. You've also got to ask - when did you guys find out Lion would not support Rosetta? When did you start working on porting Quicken 2007?
Why not just get Essentials to work the way it should?
Will people really care in the spring of 2012? They will have already worked around the problem by:
a) Moving to another product
b) Using to quicken essentials on lion
c) Setup a bootable partition to snow leopard
d) Given up on using financial software and just using what's provided by their bank.
Unreal.
They are basically publically saying that they are complete morons.
"We're proud to announce the fact that we are so incredibly aweful, that we are actually going to work on salvaging a hugely buggy and slow five-year-old product - rather than employ resources to build a new product for the current market on the current platform."
WOW!!!
Nothing screams "I hate my customers" like that. You've also got to ask - when did you guys find out Lion would not support Rosetta? When did you start working on porting Quicken 2007?
Why not just get Essentials to work the way it should?
Will people really care in the spring of 2012? They will have already worked around the problem by:
a) Moving to another product
b) Using to quicken essentials on lion
c) Setup a bootable partition to snow leopard
d) Given up on using financial software and just using what's provided by their bank.
Unreal.
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I don't think you understand what a board of directors does and what it does not do.
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I don't think you understand what a board of directors does and what it does not do.
Couldn't they just slap on a slightly different name to keep people happy? Maybe Quicken 2007(SE) kind of like how Microsoft renamed Windows 98 to 98SE.
Quicken on a Mac
Has anyone heard of Crossover by Codeweavers? They have an extremely fine product that creates a Windows environment that allows user to run many Windows programs. I have been using it for over two years, to run Quicken for Windows. I am on Quicken 2009, but shall soon upgrade to 2012. It works on 10.6 and on Lion. It has none of the overhead of Parallels or Fusion. I start Crossover , then Quicken and it works perfectly. Check out Crossover at Codeweavers.com.
Has anyone heard of Crossover by Codeweavers? They have an extremely fine product that creates a Windows environment that allows user to run many Windows programs. I have been using it for over two years, to run Quicken for Windows. I am on Quicken 2009, but shall soon upgrade to 2012. It works on 10.6 and on Lion. It has none of the overhead of Parallels or Fusion. I start Crossover , then Quicken and it works perfectly. Check out Crossover at Codeweavers.com.
Intuit - the Anti-Mac company
I'll believe it when I see it, but truly, Intuit doesn't deserve ONE DIME from the mac base for the way we've been treated. And - 2007?? HELLO? INTUIT - build a current version that is truly a MAC product. Please.
It's REALLY a shame that some other company hasn't managed to get a product that is a real replacement for Quicken on the Mac. Nothing I've tried seems to do what I need, especially with respect to Quicken classes and tags.
Now, please excuse me. I have to go boot up that XP POS computer that's still in my house to run Quicken 2009......
I'll believe it when I see it, but truly, Intuit doesn't deserve ONE DIME from the mac base for the way we've been treated. And - 2007?? HELLO? INTUIT - build a current version that is truly a MAC product. Please.
It's REALLY a shame that some other company hasn't managed to get a product that is a real replacement for Quicken on the Mac. Nothing I've tried seems to do what I need, especially with respect to Quicken classes and tags.
Now, please excuse me. I have to go boot up that XP POS computer that's still in my house to run Quicken 2009......
Presuming nothing else comes along - I will reluctantly be getting it!
I agree & completely identify with both of the above & as such had not done anything as yet. So, I will absolutely - albeit reluctantly - be getting this 2007 "patch" when (hopefully) released. And was frankly relieved to hear it was forthcoming. How pathetic is that?
I'll answer that by saying this: As poor as Intuit has been on this "issue", In my opinion other software developers have also seemingly missed a BIG opportunity to convert a lot of people. I, as just one example, would have been fine with iBank - IF it had Direct Bill-Pay. Others have held back for various other reasons - but most all because in one form or another those other Apps didn't have the feature set of Q2007Mac (& run without need for Windows, 2OSX partitions, or additional emulation)
I agree & completely identify with both of the above & as such had not done anything as yet. So, I will absolutely - albeit reluctantly - be getting this 2007 "patch" when (hopefully) released. And was frankly relieved to hear it was forthcoming. How pathetic is that?
I'll answer that by saying this: As poor as Intuit has been on this "issue", In my opinion other software developers have also seemingly missed a BIG opportunity to convert a lot of people. I, as just one example, would have been fine with iBank - IF it had Direct Bill-Pay. Others have held back for various other reasons - but most all because in one form or another those other Apps didn't have the feature set of Q2007Mac (& run without need for Windows, 2OSX partitions, or additional emulation)
I've been a Quicken/Macintax/Turbotax user for about 20 years now. I have a lot of data in Quicken and haven't really seen a good option to transition. If you've actually looked at this problem, using split transactions; multiple bank, loan, and investment accounts; and stock and mutual fund transactions (including cost basis reporting) isn't something any of the available software packages easily do without a lot of manual cleanup. Again, I emphasize, 20 years of financial transactions.
Quicken 2007 isn't perfect, but it is certainly more than adequate. I was incredibly disappointed in Quicken Essentials. I think they use the term "essentials" in its minimalist meaning. The idea that you have to download investment transactions instead of manual entry and that it can't compute basic cost information is amazing - what if your financial institution doesn't talk with QE? Or you have an investment it doesn't recognize?
Anyhow, this is a good move. Note Intuit never said they were going to charge for this upgrade. They shouldn't, given their history. They can charge us for Quicken 2013 (which will be the earliest we'll see another upgrade). This is good news though. I for one am looking forward to upgrading to Lion - this is the only thing holding me back.
Quicken 2007 isn't perfect, but it is certainly more than adequate. I was incredibly disappointed in Quicken Essentials. I think they use the term "essentials" in its minimalist meaning. The idea that you have to download investment transactions instead of manual entry and that it can't compute basic cost information is amazing - what if your financial institution doesn't talk with QE? Or you have an investment it doesn't recognize?
Anyhow, this is a good move. Note Intuit never said they were going to charge for this upgrade. They shouldn't, given their history. They can charge us for Quicken 2013 (which will be the earliest we'll see another upgrade). This is good news though. I for one am looking forward to upgrading to Lion - this is the only thing holding me back.
Utterly amazing. WHY did Apple keep him as a director?
This defies explanation. Why would you keep someone who obviously either HATES or cannot understand the Apple world on your board??
This defies explanation. Why would you keep someone who obviously either HATES or cannot understand the Apple world on your board??
Intuit and Quicken sucks once again!
I recently purchased a new iMac. I have not yet made the transition over to Lion because of Quicken 2007. I've looked at the other products but none of them seem to work for me as well as Quicken has worked for many years, inspite of all of it's shortcomings.
Having said that, if the next release of Quicken for the Mac isn't equal to the Windows version at the time of the new Mac Quicken's release I will bite the bullet and finally make a move away from Quicken. I am tired of being treated as if I don't matter.
The sad thing is that the head of Intuit sits on the board of Apple and has for many years, and was originally an Apple employee and if I am not mistaken a high level one at that. How Steve Jobs could keep someone on the board who is making inferior software for the Mac, very inferior to the Windows version, is beyond me.
Intuit should suck it up, admit they have treated the Mac community with contempt and as second citizens and ask for forgiveness. The best way to really jump start their Mac sales would be to introduce a version in 2012 that delivers all that the Windows version delivers and even more. Let the Windows software team be the ones to play catch up for a while.
I mean really, how can a board member continue to sit there knowing that his own company has a very popular and useful product but one that he has not fully committed his company to support and to keep equal or superior to the Windows version at all times.
Apple should have just bought Intuit a long time ago. It wouldn't be the first time it has bought a software company. It bought the company that developed what became Final Cut Pro. It's bought hardware companies to design chips. What would be so strange about buying Intuit. It certainly has the cash to do it.
Wake up Intuit. Deliver us a product we want to love to buy not just one we resign ourselves to buying. Be a leader for once!
I recently purchased a new iMac. I have not yet made the transition over to Lion because of Quicken 2007. I've looked at the other products but none of them seem to work for me as well as Quicken has worked for many years, inspite of all of it's shortcomings.
Having said that, if the next release of Quicken for the Mac isn't equal to the Windows version at the time of the new Mac Quicken's release I will bite the bullet and finally make a move away from Quicken. I am tired of being treated as if I don't matter.
The sad thing is that the head of Intuit sits on the board of Apple and has for many years, and was originally an Apple employee and if I am not mistaken a high level one at that. How Steve Jobs could keep someone on the board who is making inferior software for the Mac, very inferior to the Windows version, is beyond me.
Intuit should suck it up, admit they have treated the Mac community with contempt and as second citizens and ask for forgiveness. The best way to really jump start their Mac sales would be to introduce a version in 2012 that delivers all that the Windows version delivers and even more. Let the Windows software team be the ones to play catch up for a while.
I mean really, how can a board member continue to sit there knowing that his own company has a very popular and useful product but one that he has not fully committed his company to support and to keep equal or superior to the Windows version at all times.
Apple should have just bought Intuit a long time ago. It wouldn't be the first time it has bought a software company. It bought the company that developed what became Final Cut Pro. It's bought hardware companies to design chips. What would be so strange about buying Intuit. It certainly has the cash to do it.
Wake up Intuit. Deliver us a product we want to love to buy not just one we resign ourselves to buying. Be a leader for once!
So what amazing advances in accounting have occurred? The only reason I updated my MS office x (circa 2002) was because it wouldn't run under Lion.
Thanks, Intuit, for reminding us all just what a horrid, lazy, garbage company you have become over the years.