I know Steve and Bill Campbell went way back at Apple, but Quicken is an embarassment on the Mac platform and Campbell needs to be shown the boardroom door (don't let it hit him in the arse on the way out).
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Lion-Compatible Quicken 2007 for Mac Promised in 'Early Spring'
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Quicken X:
- Dark iMovie interface
- All money transfers between accounts are done when decided by the software, so you don't have to think about it anymore. User control over money is gone. It just works!
- Now has full screen mode
Those who followed the Intuit blog and PR BS that proceeded Quicken Essentials for Mac already know that Intuit totally clueless about what Mac users want in a financial program. In fact why would Mac users maintain their own finances any differently than Windows users do?
Following my purchase of the kids' toy known as Quicken Essentials for Mac I decided to upgrade my Windows XP installation to Windows 7 and Quicken 2011. As it turns out I really like Windows 7 and prefer it over Lion for several tasks.
Thanks Intuit for not giving a ratsass about Mac users which prevented me from dumping my Windows machines entirely and going totally Mac.
Following my purchase of the kids' toy known as Quicken Essentials for Mac I decided to upgrade my Windows XP installation to Windows 7 and Quicken 2011. As it turns out I really like Windows 7 and prefer it over Lion for several tasks.
Thanks Intuit for not giving a ratsass about Mac users which prevented me from dumping my Windows machines entirely and going totally Mac.
Went to ibank quicken.
Never will visit your store again even with the time machine you are building.
Never will visit your store again even with the time machine you are building.
Maybe this has been answered already, but why has Intuit ALWAYS treated the Mac as a second class citizen when William Campbell, former Intuit CEO, is on Apple's Board of Directors? Does Apple have any good will towards Intuit still, and if so, why? I can't think of any other software company that blatantly treats their mac customers like crap. Even Microsoft in some ways treats their mac customers better than their Windows users.
At this point, I'm surprised no one in Apple made it their mission to create an iWork application that rivaled Quicken for the PC. Or at least throw money at Quicken to get them to get up to par. Aside from games, financial software is still the most glaring software category that the mac lacks, when most the people on PC's rely on Quicken and have done so for over a decade.
At this point, I'm surprised no one in Apple made it their mission to create an iWork application that rivaled Quicken for the PC. Or at least throw money at Quicken to get them to get up to par. Aside from games, financial software is still the most glaring software category that the mac lacks, when most the people on PC's rely on Quicken and have done so for over a decade.
"Early Spring" in Quicken terms means December...of 2016
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Are these clowns aware that most banks have stopped supporting the Quicken Mac 2007 download protocol?
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Are these clowns aware that most banks have stopped supporting the Quicken Mac 2007 download protocol?
Too Late
I'm sorry. I put up with Quicken for something like 15(?) years and Intuit will have to make something unbelievably spectacular for me to even look at the box now that I have been using MoneyDance.
MD does everything I need it to do, include talking directly to my bank, but far more importantly.......
They have knowledgeable and polite customer service! Wow! What a concept. Everybody has a problem at least once and contacting Quicken Tech Support was a pointless exercise in frustration.
Seven months after moving to MD, my blood still boils when I think of all the hassles I put up with Quicken. It is just that it was the only game in town.
Intuit, if you are reading this, you have a lot to atone for.
I'm sorry. I put up with Quicken for something like 15(?) years and Intuit will have to make something unbelievably spectacular for me to even look at the box now that I have been using MoneyDance.
MD does everything I need it to do, include talking directly to my bank, but far more importantly.......
They have knowledgeable and polite customer service! Wow! What a concept. Everybody has a problem at least once and contacting Quicken Tech Support was a pointless exercise in frustration.
Seven months after moving to MD, my blood still boils when I think of all the hassles I put up with Quicken. It is just that it was the only game in town.
Intuit, if you are reading this, you have a lot to atone for.
Intuit's only escape from the enormous amount of bad will they've created between them and Mac users is the end of the world one year from yesterday at the end of the 13th b'ak'tun.
Promises in an election year
If Intuit delivers a robust product that parallels the features of the Windows version, then count me in. To me, that would indicate corporate commitment.
Otherwise, it's just election year promises...
Even µS caught on (re Mac community support) and most think Office 2011 is at least a decent product. But whether Intuit can rise to the occasion, well, so far, their track record is less than sterling; much, much, less. So, in the mean time, I'll continue to consider competitive products.
If Intuit delivers a robust product that parallels the features of the Windows version, then count me in. To me, that would indicate corporate commitment.
Otherwise, it's just election year promises...
Even µS caught on (re Mac community support) and most think Office 2011 is at least a decent product. But whether Intuit can rise to the occasion, well, so far, their track record is less than sterling; much, much, less. So, in the mean time, I'll continue to consider competitive products.
too little too late
I for one have already made the switch to iBank. While this is not the ideal solution for everyone, I have found the tech support folks at IGG Software to be responsive and capable, exactly the opposite of Intuit.
I for one have already made the switch to iBank. While this is not the ideal solution for everyone, I have found the tech support folks at IGG Software to be responsive and capable, exactly the opposite of Intuit.
Too Late
I have already moved to Mint. It has 80-90 percent of the features I need. I have abandoned Quicken and TurboTax this year. I found it less expensive and less worrisome to have a professional do my taxes. Intuit completely missed the boat and did not listen to customer demand. Their forums were littered with disgruntled customers less than a year ago.
I would rather use a couple of free programs that perform the same job than to use Quicken again.
This gives me an idea. Hmmmmmm.....
I have already moved to Mint. It has 80-90 percent of the features I need. I have abandoned Quicken and TurboTax this year. I found it less expensive and less worrisome to have a professional do my taxes. Intuit completely missed the boat and did not listen to customer demand. Their forums were littered with disgruntled customers less than a year ago.
I would rather use a couple of free programs that perform the same job than to use Quicken again.
This gives me an idea. Hmmmmmm.....
Who the hell uses Quicken any more? on one side you have MYOB which is used by 90% of businesses where I live and on the other side you have a growth of web based accountancy packages in the cloud that offer equal or better functionality than desktop bound software. Sorry but Quicken is dying the death of a thousand cuts coming from multiple angles - and all this btw, predates their ignoring of Lion and providing updates for Mac OS X users.
One touch update?
Do either Moneydance or Ibank, once you've set up your accounts, have the equivalent of 'one touch, update' that I recall from windows - quicken?
I pretty much abandoned financial software after trying the mac version of quicken, but haven't explored these two titles.
I know my financial institutions can export files for you to import to quicken, etc but one button updates worked perfectly for me in the windows environment...do they do so via Ibank and/or Moneydance for you via OSX?
Do either Moneydance or Ibank, once you've set up your accounts, have the equivalent of 'one touch, update' that I recall from windows - quicken?
I pretty much abandoned financial software after trying the mac version of quicken, but haven't explored these two titles.
I know my financial institutions can export files for you to import to quicken, etc but one button updates worked perfectly for me in the windows environment...do they do so via Ibank and/or Moneydance for you via OSX?
They'll go the same way as adobe. As soon as someone else comes out with a far better program and a fantastic solution for this problem, Quicken will be eternally screwed - Because Mac users will be more loyal to a company that supports them on their platform of choice. And since the mac's market share is growing steadily, quicken will be hard pressed to win back those mac users - especially if they use software from 2007 as bait on the hook.
Because his day job at Intuit is to maximize Intuits profits, which may or may not have anything to do with how well Apple does.
His other job on the board at Apple is to advise them how to maximize their profits, advice Steve very much wanted, and a lot more than he wanted Quicken updated. This advice has nothing to do with the best way to run Intuit.
You can't just recompile PowerPC assembly language for another ISA.
Zombie Bastards
They don't even know they're dead. We all switched already. Promising the opportunity to go back to a product we hated in "early spring" just confirms we made the right choice. Even if Quicken Mac 2012 was available now, few would jump back. The only reason we all don't short your stock is iBank doesn't support it. Yet.
You had your chance, now go eat someone else's brains.
They don't even know they're dead. We all switched already. Promising the opportunity to go back to a product we hated in "early spring" just confirms we made the right choice. Even if Quicken Mac 2012 was available now, few would jump back. The only reason we all don't short your stock is iBank doesn't support it. Yet.
You had your chance, now go eat someone else's brains.
Way too late
already switched to iBank. It does not crash like Quicken, but I must admit it is light on features.
already switched to iBank. It does not crash like Quicken, but I must admit it is light on features.
I've used Quicken since 2005, and moved to stupid essentials earlier in the year when Lion came out. Essentials is useless and buggy.
I wish some developer would take advantage of this lull and make something that works now - for Lion and beyond!
I wish some developer would take advantage of this lull and make something that works now - for Lion and beyond!
..which is now (as of 2009) owned by? that's right, intuit.
i seem to remember reading something about one of the mint guys now being in charge of the quicken family. maybe he'll be able to re-focus the company.
That's why I said they must still have the source code.. Unless they wrote hand assembled code for Quicken 2007.. and who the hell would still be hand-assembling code in 2007? Especially for a financial application where performance on a modern CPU wasn't really an issue?
I think they just wanted to stop supporting the Mac and this was the easiest way. Now they see a potential revenue source from releasing Intel compatible 2007 so they're releasing it (and will probably charge $20 for cross-grade licenses)
More like $49....
The other thing that has always sucked about quicken is the forced obsolescence of the downloading. Monopolistic practice. Intuit deserves to wither into the nothingness that they've offered the mac community.
Color me underwhelmed. They haven't had their act together for a long time, I'm impressed they managed to get this out.