Too little, too late....uninstalled Quicken about a month ago in preparation for going to Lion.
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Lion-Compatible Quicken 2007 for Mac Promised in 'Early Spring'
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Why would you want to put your financial info in the cloud???? I can understand wanting to abandon Intuit but to use a web-based platform?
Ugh. I occasionally use VirtualBox at work to make use of Windows XP (which is a rarity). I'm not very impressed with VirtualBox. It is very resource intensive and brings the rest of the system to a crawl.
At my previous job, I used VM Ware Fusion 2 with Windows 7, and that worked much smoother than VirtualBox.
Yet, I suppose you get what you pay for with VirtualBox (nothing). However, I was surprised that I hadn't heard of VirtualBox before my job. I've heard of VM Ware, Parallels, and even CrossOver, but not VirtualBox.
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I've seen a number of recommendations for alternatives like Mint.com or iBank. Is anyone using MoneyWell, and is this similar to Quicken?
Wouldn't it be nice if somebody could come up with emulators like they have for games ?(MAME type)
Many consumers do not always need or want the latest.
Pathetic...
Intuit - if you're trolling for feedback here it is. As a longtime Quicken user too long neglected, I've switched to iBank. If you really want to be competitive in this segment your product will need feature parity, mobile syncing with iPhone/iPad apps, online bill pay and file conversion with all the alternatives that have sprung up in your absence. Really... REALLY??? You've got a serious uphill battle ahead of you which you can thank yourself for... As for Intuit's presence on Apple's board, I can't imagine the contribution there...
Intuit - if you're trolling for feedback here it is. As a longtime Quicken user too long neglected, I've switched to iBank. If you really want to be competitive in this segment your product will need feature parity, mobile syncing with iPhone/iPad apps, online bill pay and file conversion with all the alternatives that have sprung up in your absence. Really... REALLY??? You've got a serious uphill battle ahead of you which you can thank yourself for... As for Intuit's presence on Apple's board, I can't imagine the contribution there...
Aren't we blessed...
Wow aren't we lucky to have a 2007 product made available to us...
Personally I won't buy any of their products as they abandoned the UK market because apparently we don't need a finance application. It's a good job that iBank and a load of other 3rd party applications didn't get written to fill the void eh?
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I tried Accountz and found that iBank was better. It's not a bad app, but personally I prefer iBank. Best advice would be to download the trials of each from their respective websites and see which one works best for you.
Wow aren't we lucky to have a 2007 product made available to us...
Personally I won't buy any of their products as they abandoned the UK market because apparently we don't need a finance application. It's a good job that iBank and a load of other 3rd party applications didn't get written to fill the void eh?
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I tried Accountz and found that iBank was better. It's not a bad app, but personally I prefer iBank. Best advice would be to download the trials of each from their respective websites and see which one works best for you.
Setting aside the obvious...
Is there no one who works in the Intuit Marketing Department?
Three things should have made them jump out of their seat:
If there was anyone in their Marketing department worth a damn, they would have grabbed that Product Manager by the neck, shook vigorously, and said:
"You are NOT announcing a patch for a problem that's 6 months old in a product that we released 5 years ago."
"Instead, you're going to change a few icons, update the color scheme, change the title to Quicken 2012, and announce our renewed support for the Mac platform."
None of this would have fixed the over-riding issue that they just don't give a damn about the Mac, but at least it would have been a more graceful way to address it.
Is there no one who works in the Intuit Marketing Department?
Three things should have made them jump out of their seat:
- Lion - It's now December 2011. OS X Lion was release in July. You're just now making announcements about a show-stopping flaw in your software that affects all Lion users?
- Spring - The issues with Lion are already 6 months old, and you don't expect to have any fix ready until "Spring"? That's closing in on a year since the problem first occurred.
- Quicken 2007 - 2007? Your big announcement is for a 5 year old product???
If there was anyone in their Marketing department worth a damn, they would have grabbed that Product Manager by the neck, shook vigorously, and said:
"You are NOT announcing a patch for a problem that's 6 months old in a product that we released 5 years ago."
"Instead, you're going to change a few icons, update the color scheme, change the title to Quicken 2012, and announce our renewed support for the Mac platform."
None of this would have fixed the over-riding issue that they just don't give a damn about the Mac, but at least it would have been a more graceful way to address it.
iBank
Like some others here, I switched to iBank. Intuit's response to the release of Lion was to say an update probably wouldn't come any time soon. So, why are they even trying now? Do they sound at all like a company that really cares to support the Mac?
iBank has been pretty good, though the reports lack customization I need. Some of them cut off information and there is no way to adjust column width. That's pretty lame, and I hope they fix it soon. It's not promising that the company that does iBank has not taken advantage of this HUGE opportunity to win over Quicken users. There hasn't been an update in a long time.
C'mon iBank, this is your moment.
Like some others here, I switched to iBank. Intuit's response to the release of Lion was to say an update probably wouldn't come any time soon. So, why are they even trying now? Do they sound at all like a company that really cares to support the Mac?
iBank has been pretty good, though the reports lack customization I need. Some of them cut off information and there is no way to adjust column width. That's pretty lame, and I hope they fix it soon. It's not promising that the company that does iBank has not taken advantage of this HUGE opportunity to win over Quicken users. There hasn't been an update in a long time.
C'mon iBank, this is your moment.
What about online bill payment, where Quicken writes the checks for you and mails them out? I can't remember precisely what the shortcoming was with the Mac version over the pc version, but I recall there being some major things missing that there was no way I was going to sacrifice. Considering I already had a Windows 7 license as well as Quicken for Windows, all it cost me was a license for Parallels, which I got with a coupon code for $39. $39 and I'm running the fully functional Windows version on the Mac. It was such a no brainer for me...
Yes, MoneyDance does. iBank does too but for printed checks with addresses on them, iBank requires the payee to be in the Mac Address Book. That means Address Book must be cluttered with payees and that can be a huge hassle. Both MoneyDance and iBank have excellent customer service and tech reps that speak English and know their product well. My choice, for flexibility, is MoneyDance but some will prefer iBank. (It is much prettier) I found both connected easily to my banks but in the initial conversion, Money Dance had no errors and iBank had many.
Either way I don't think I can go back to beating my head against the wall with Quicken.
C'mon iBank
Yeah really IBank needs to improve the report/search features.
That said I will never again wait for Quciken to support the MAc OS
Yeah really IBank needs to improve the report/search features.
That said I will never again wait for Quciken to support the MAc OS
i tried a few finance apps out this year and for personal finance i chose to stick with money by jumsoft
it's not perfect but it has already proved its value. at least for personal finance another app would have to really wow me to make me consider switching.
it's not perfect but it has already proved its value. at least for personal finance another app would have to really wow me to make me consider switching.
Quicken 2007? It's 2012 in a few days, and I abandoned Quicken almost a decade ago. When Microsoft discontinued Money, I moved to iBank, and have not looked back since. I am surprised Intuit is even around as a company. Even their tax software sucks. I hope they go bust in 2012.
Lots to worry about
First, one has to wonder about Bill Campbell and his management team. They obviously have lost touch with reality. They want to sell us a 2007 program? What could they be thinking? If I were employed by them, or invested in them. I'd be looking for the exit.
Just so you know Intuit, you don't dictate what software I choose to run as my chosen OS. I left for greener pastures and won't be back, even if you gave me the software. Why would anyone want to run 6 year old software that has been kludged to run on Lion? Answer: they don't. So do yourself a favor and put your part time Mac programmer on some other project.
First, one has to wonder about Bill Campbell and his management team. They obviously have lost touch with reality. They want to sell us a 2007 program? What could they be thinking? If I were employed by them, or invested in them. I'd be looking for the exit.
Just so you know Intuit, you don't dictate what software I choose to run as my chosen OS. I left for greener pastures and won't be back, even if you gave me the software. Why would anyone want to run 6 year old software that has been kludged to run on Lion? Answer: they don't. So do yourself a favor and put your part time Mac programmer on some other project.
I offered two alternatives: Web based or MYOB - how about putting some effort into reading what people write instead of posting off a half baked poorly thought out reply.
If someone enters a "half baked poorly thought out reply" what's the point in putting effort into trying to parse and understand it?
Wouldn't you just make a Group for that in Address Book? Separate from family, friends, etc.
Excuse me 'bro' but here is what I wrote in the original reply:
Excuse me but where did I say that 'web based applications' was the only solution on offer - why the hell did you and him ignore MYOB that I mentioned? either address what I wrote or for christ sake stay silent.
Bear in mind that this isn't an "upgrade". It is simply the same product working under Lion. They haven't said it will cost anything. I suspect it won't.
100% agreed. Not to mention that when you finances start to get a bit complicated, when you have accounts at institutions that do not support online banking, it is quite useful to have one place where to keep all your home finances.
I have been using Quicken for many years, and like others have looked to move to other home finance applications because of Lion. This is the #1 reason why I have not upgraded to Lion on my main home Mac (development Mac is on Lion...). I was even beta-testing Lion back in the Spring (I am a developer) so believe me, this is quite ironic.
Last week I finally tried out Quicken Essential to see whether this could work. This was a complete failure: for my day-to-day workflow, QE was about 70% less efficient. There were also missing key features that I needed (e.g., daily investment tracking history). In addition QE crashed on me at least once in the 1-2 hours I tested it.
So I am still using Quicken 2007 on Leopard and I welcome the news that Intuit is trying to make it Lion compatible. I am also fine with the current set of basic features in Quicken 2007. I don't use bank downloads or use Quicken's reporting (I create my own reports in Excel). I keep my finances extremely tidy (all my accounts are balanced to the Penny and I use strict cash accounting) so having full control is important to me.
Until I can find a Mac application that meets these requirements, I will have to stick to Quicken (and Leopard if that is required).