Setting aside the obvious...
Is there no one who works in the Intuit Marketing Department?
Three things should have made them jump out of their seat:
- Lion - It's now December 2011. OS X Lion was release in July. You're just now making announcements about a show-stopping flaw in your software that affects all Lion users?
- Spring - The issues with Lion are already 6 months old, and you don't expect to have any fix ready until "Spring"? That's closing in on a year since the problem first occurred.
- Quicken 2007 - 2007? Your big announcement is for a 5 year old product???
If there was anyone in their Marketing department worth a damn, they would have grabbed that Product Manager by the neck, shook vigorously, and said:
"You are NOT announcing a patch for a problem that's 6 months old in a product that we released 5 years ago."
"Instead, you're going to change a few icons, update the color scheme, change the title to Quicken 2012, and announce our renewed support for the Mac platform."
None of this would have fixed the over-riding issue that they just don't give a damn about the Mac, but at least it would have been a more graceful way to address it.
Wouldn't you just make a Group for that in Address Book? Separate from family, friends, etc.
Anyone here use TurboTax 2010 or 2011 on Lion? If so, what kind of snags have you run into, if any?
A month or so ago I reinstalled TT 2010 in Lion to amend my 2010 returns and the install went fine and updates over the Internet all worked okay.
There was a thread here about the 2011 version having problems updating in Lion, and a Quicken support VP posted this would be fixed on 12/15. I checked the Intuit web site yesterday and the support area states this is no longer a problem and the updates work, but I have not tried it myself.
...No I'm not even sure I want to use Turbo Tax anymore. I mean if Quicken can't get a simple add and subtract program to work, how buggy will a complicated tax program be? Its amazing to me how crappy their products have become over the last few years.
I used to upgrade to the latest version of Quicken and used MacInTax every year. After getting tired of Intuit's middle finger to the Mac community, I stopped purchasing their products. The only reason I have Quicken 2005 is because it came with my Mac.
I did switch back to MacInTax for one year a while back (I can't remember why), but I've been otherwise very happy with TaxCut for the past decade. It may be slightly less polished as far as the UI and may not hold your hand quite as much as TT, but it does the job and costs less to boot.
Btw, when OS X first came out, H&R Block was there with a fully OSX native TaxCut. Intuit got around to shipping one a year or two later. I recall a similar story when Apple switched to Intel processors.
Intuit has made it very clear over the past 15 years that they don't give a cr@p about Mac users. They shovel their putrid, sorry excuse for software to us, knowing that there's enough people who will happily pay the money.
Hey, we've been paying sometimes twice as much for a lobotomized version of Quicken (compared to the Windows version). Why should Intuit do anything different?![]()
Intuit - if you're trolling for feedback here it is. As a longtime Quicken user too long neglected, I've switched to iBank. If you really want to be competitive in this segment your product will need feature parity, mobile syncing with iPhone/iPad apps, online bill pay and file conversion with all the alternatives that have sprung up in your absence. Really... REALLY??? You've got a serious uphill battle ahead of you which you can thank yourself for... As for Intuit's presence on Apple's board, I can't imagine the contribution there...
I've been a Quicken user since the early 90s. When I heard that there wouldn't be a Lion-compatible version, I investigated all the alternatives. I eventually settled on Moneydance, since it's the only product that supports online bill pay, which I use extensively.
Moneydance does what I need it to do, but it feels more cumbersome than Quicken did. I might consider switching back if Intuit offered an updated version for almost no charge and committed to parity with the Windows release. However, it's difficult to trust that they'll do what they promise.
Wow, that's diligence. Thanks for the info.I ran quicken, iBank, MoneyDance and SEE Finance together for two months, keeping them in synch.
As another poster mentioned, Intuit did still make Mac versions, I think every year. They often weren't publicized, even on the box, you bought the disc and it was Win/Mac.Btw, when OS X first came out, H&R Block was there with a fully OSX native TaxCut. Intuit got around to shipping one a year or two later. I recall a similar story when Apple switched to Intel processors.
Not that I am a big fan of Intuit, but one of the best features of quicken, is Quicken Bill Pay. I have yet to find an alternative program that allows importing of quicken files, AND has an online bill paying feature. Downloads of Bank data, yes, but not actual online bill paying through the program itself. If someone knows of one that does, please educate me, because none of the ones I have seen, have that feature.
Therefore, 2007 version or not, this is great news to me. After all, I'm using it now, and it works, even if it is an older version. (how many of you are feeling great about the newest windows version of MS office? And how long have you had to look for the simplest commands. Newer isn't always better).
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Say what? I have always done my taxes on Turbo Tax (hasn't been called Macintax for YEARS), I'm always on the latest mac version, and have never had a problem with Turbo Tax. Again, not defending Quicken, but lets not falsely accuse them where they don't deserve it. Lets stick to calling them Retards for not supporting the mac better, on Quicken.
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iBank doesn't offer true online bill pay. It only works with banks that have their own online bill pay, which uploads and downloads transactions. Big difference.
Are you kidding me? Win version is Quicken 2012... why would anyone want a 5 year old accounting program?!?
Some of us are real accountants, too.People still use Quicken? I thought everyone with a brain used a real accountant.![]()
At home, I like the newest version of MS Office for Mac just fine. At least it still gives me a menubar, unlike the latest MS Office for Windows I'm forced to use at work.Therefore, 2007 version or not, this is great news to me. After all, I'm using it now, and it works, even if it is an older version. (how many of you are feeling great about the newest windows version of MS office? And how long have you had to look for the simplest commands. Newer isn't always better).
Moneydance has online bill pay through the program, can download transaction data and latest stock and fund data, and imported my Quicken 2007 data nearly flawlessly. I spent a fair amount of time evaluating Quicken alternatives and Monetdance was the best, at least for me. It is the only program other than Qucken 2007 with online bill pay as far as I know.
Not that I am a big fan of Intuit, but one of the best features of quicken, is Quicken Bill Pay. I have yet to find an alternative program that allows importing of quicken files, AND has an online bill paying feature. Downloads of Bank data, yes, but not actual online bill paying through the program itself. If someone knows of one that does, please educate me, because none of the ones I have seen, have that feature.
Some of us are real accountants, too.
I can't get the numbers out of my head, so I just capitulated to my brain. Don't even bother with software for my finances, why double the work?All the accountants i know use Xero even for personal use.
I offered two alternatives: Web based or MYOB - how about putting some effort into reading what people write instead of posting off a half baked poorly thought out reply.