Lion-Compatible Quicken 2007 for Mac Promised in 'Early Spring'

[docpsycho]

Half a$$ed

This is a sad sad day. Intuits inability to actually create cross-platform functionality is beyond illogical. It also proves that Intuit's focus is not on what they were founded on by selling their branded financial services, like home loans, credit cards,.

on the small business part they offer credit card transactions, web hosting, payroll services

They still haven't offered a great cross-platform application that is designed for current operation systems, and focus on two platform choices that are legacy items that are marginally updated to be functional with said current operating systems.

A quick peek at the 10-Q for 2011 shows that the revenue percentage is 8%. The quote below lists the specifics. and shows that Quicken itself is a drop in the bucket in the overall business plan. What does it mean to you the end user, "NO SOUP FOR YOU"!

"Other Businesses consist primarily of Quicken, Mint.com, Intuit Health, and our businesses in Canada, the United Kingdom, Singapore and India. Quicken product revenue is derived primarily from Quicken desktop software products. Quicken service and other revenue is derived primarily from fees from consumer online transactions and Quicken Loans trademark royalties."

 

[skellener]

Lion-Compatible Quicken 2007 for Mac Promised in 'Early Spring'

Why? This is a dead product. Do people actually still use this?

 

[techwhiz]

Quicken = Massive Fail!! Moneydance

This is a sad sad day. Intuits inability to actually create cross-platform functionality is beyond illogical. It also proves that Intuit's focus is not on what they were founded on by selling their branded financial services, like home loans, credit cards,.

on the small business part they offer credit card transactions, web hosting, payroll services

They still haven't offered a great cross-platform application that is designed for current operation systems, and focus on two platform choices that are legacy items that are marginally updated to be functional with said current operating systems

I wouldn't use it now if it was free.
I switched to Moneydance when I upgraded to Lion.
Quicken = Junk!
I was once a great advocate for Intuit and was a beta tester for multiple revisions before 2005.

 

[patent10021]

Was wondering if they'd be nice enough to promise to never release Quicken again.

 

[jtmacb]

They bought Final Cut Pro. Not the company, Macromedia.

The point I was trying to make is that Apple has a history of sometimes buying a company or product in order to make it better, introduce it to a larger audience and/or obtain creative talent that can be used in ways not imagined by the people who originally started the company or wrote the software. Why couldn't Apple do that with Intuit? Why not give Windows users one more reason to own a Mac by bringing out a program that is better on the Mac than on Windows, with seemless porting of historical data over to the new version from both former versions of Quicken on the Mac as well as from PCs?

 

[John.B]

For personal finances, the bank's website is probably better than anything else. Really, remember the hassles exporting .qifs, and trying to get the bank to send you a .qif? Horrors. Now you've got better security and better stuff on the bank site.

Uh, no. The bank's website leaves you at the mercy of that bank to maintain your data, with their archiving schedule. The purpose of personal finance software is so that you can maintain your own records, ostensibly to be reconciled against the bank's information.

 

[dontwalkhand]

Left to iBank and never looked back. I am not going to trust a product that took this long to update.

Also, is it just me or are those Mac Pros on Intuit's website? (The site is down right now)

 

[InuNacho]

Apple Should Support PPC, 68K, OS9, etc. They have the resources. They claim the new OS and hardware are so powerful. It is a pitiful shame on Apple that they abandon users like this. There is a tremendous wealth of older software that has never been recreated and is now lost.

As a Mac user since the old B/W compact days I would love to see support for older systems. Every current Mac has got to be powerful enough to emulate all of the above, why don't they just sell those of us that want them at a reasonable price?

 

[dontwalkhand]

As a Mac user since the old B/W compact days I would love to see support for older systems. Every current Mac has got to be powerful enough to emulate all of the above, why don't they just sell those of us that want them at a reasonable price?

I would definitely pay for something like that, I would love to run some old OS 9 apps on this MacBook Pro

 

[bigwig]

I bought Moneywell when Quicken was no longer supported on Macs.

 

[prowlmedia]

Ha they use macpros on the website... and they bearly support Mac.

Don't give them your money. Shocking behaviour stringing out a 5 year old product.

 

[k1121j]

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2007 for early 2012 that's to funny trash I tuit is good for something it's out dated broken software.

 

[gilles9]

well i'll have to opt in with the Lion version

Hello,

I have moved to iBank, since September (because of Lion), but unfortunately some Quicken 2007 functions don't work in iBank (e.g. reports of Capital gains, portfolio view including dividends total payments by shares, different other reports);

I got used having a quick view of Investments in Quicken 2007, can't find this in iBank

I have Quicken data going back in early 1990's, I tansfered all in Quicken Essentials, for reference of past transactions, but no Investment transactions followed in QE.

So I kept a Snow Leopard partition to use Quicken 2007, but it is cumbersome to use (restarting in Snow Leopard then restarting in Lion)

So I'll opt in with the Lion version of Quicken 2007, despite lack of support from Intuit for Mac products

Feel like being stuck between a rock and a hard place

I would certainly prefer that iBank gets better, in reports and investments reports, but it may be long to get there

from my point of view, both are bad for customer service, Intuit rarely responded, and iBank (IGG) also

 

[gatesbuster]

Quicken was never a Mac company

I have been using Quicken for windows for years. I never saw andy significant improvement of they window software over the years other than making it bloat and unstable. Got also less user friendly. I won't even go in the mac version which were all lousy. Quicken Essentials is a joke and expensive. This company has 0 interest; I never understood someone that could buy the stock and some of the comments I have heard about their CEO.
I guess they are more interested in developing a million different businesses. Unfortunately iBank and Moneywell are not great software alternatives yet. It is unfortunate because they are more and more people using mac and after word and spreadsheet, financial softwares like Quicken are probably the most used softwares.

 

[QuiteSure]

Maddening

Here's the email I received from Intuit on July 7 officially informing me that Intuit was not supporting Quicken 2007 under Lion. To say nearly 6 months later that they were changing their minds is insane. I downloaded Quicken for Windows on December 6, it's installed and running fine.

I guess their strategy worked. I tried iBank first, it was not sufficient. Intuit must have received enormous flack for this fail.

 

[Roller]

I've been a Quicken user since the early 90s. When I heard that there wouldn't be a Lion-compatible version, I investigated all the alternatives. I eventually settled on Moneydance, since it's the only product that supports online bill pay, which I use extensively.

Moneydance does what I need it to do, but it feels more cumbersome than Quicken did. I might consider switching back if Intuit offered an updated version for almost no charge and committed to parity with the Windows release. However, it's difficult to trust that they'll do what they promise.

 

[Thunderhawks]

I tried iBank first. It's reporting capability is insufficient for me to run my law firm. I didn't make it more than 2 weeks through my 30 day trial before I had to give it up.

I was very disappointed. iBank has a lot to recommend it. Maybe version 5 will be better.

For now, I've decided to stick with Quicken 2012. It works fine, the downloaded software from Staples.com is non-refundable and it has many features I like. I'm also persuaded by the grousing that making a patch for Quicken 2007 to become Lion Compatible, without adding new features, doesn't feel quite right in 2012. Maybe if there's a new version of Quicken that's really modern I'll move back to the mac side. For now, what I have works fine, so I'll just go ahead with my plans.

ibank has ways to go, but a lot of nice features.

The glowing reviews at CNET and other places overlook how cumbersome an entry is.

Constant switching between keyboard and mouse/trackpad.

Non logical placement of buttons (cancel right next to save with save not highlighted)

They are already on version 4 after a short while, so they keep developing their product for the Mac, even have a mobile version.

Quicken 2007 entries are easier and what ibank should be doing. After that
Quicken can be put to rest in the old Mac app cemetery.

With the new year only a few days away, maybe somebody at Intuit will realize it's 2012 when they switch calendars?

 

[Dr McKay]

Or, were their sales numbers low because they refused to build a decent bug-free Mac version? Windowz sales were likely higher because Windowz users are used to and expect buggy software.

You hear that? That's the collective IQ of this discussion dropping.

 

[ZipZap]

Unless there is a Quicken 2012 for Mac, none of these other applications will ever come close.

 

[diane143]

I wish Intuit would just go out of business. Their products are confusing, their support sucks, and their Mac products have always been an afterthought. A company like this does not deserve our support.

Which came first? Quicken for Mac or DOS/Windows? I've been using Quicken for Mac since 1990, possibly V1.1

I'm still on 2006 and it works fine for what I do (Leopard). I'd really hate to lose all my old data though.

 

[henrod]

huh?

Are you kidding me? Win version is Quicken 2012... why would anyone want a 5 year old accounting program?!?

Really? Does a version # mean that much to you? Quicken 2007 Mac does everything I need it to do, and soon it will finally work under Lion. WHat was your point, again?

 

[techwhiz]

WHich Came First - Quicken DOS/Mac

Which came first? Quicken for Mac or DOS/Windows? I've been using Quicken for Mac since 1990, possibly V1.1

I'm still on 2006 and it works fine for what I do (Leopard). I'd really hate to lose all my old data though.

Quicken was a DOS program first.
Before Windows 3.1.
I've been using Quicken since DOS.
I stopped Quicken 2005 on Mac earlier this year.
The 2007 release was not muti-platform or Intel native.
I refused to give them cash for a new release that didn't natively run on Intel chips. That is the reason it is not compatible with Lion. Lion does not include PPC emulation.

They didn't get it and I won't be giving them any money.
MoneyDance runs on multiple platforms and does all I need it to do.
So long Intuit...........

 

[deconstruct60]

The point I was trying to make is that Apple has a history of sometimes buying a company or product in order to make it better, introduce it to a larger audience and/or obtain creative talent that can be used in ways not imagined by the people who originally started the company or wrote the software. Why couldn't Apple do that with Intuit?

Makes no business sense. The vast majority of revenue for Intuit is on Windows. Apple has bought products but they take them all Mac OS X only. That would be flushing the vast majority of the future revenue stream down the drain.

Why not give Windows users one more reason to own a Mac by bringing out a program that is better on the Mac than on Windows,

This is has been one of the primarily flaws in Mac Quicken development. There has always been a hard core "feature parity is the most important task" group. Intuit had a couple of abortive attempts to revamp Quicken where that attention was focused on that. So much so they lost track of the evolution of Mac OS X.


Additionally, "better" is a relative term. Apple developed Pages/Numbers/Keynote. For some they are "better" than Office, but that choice is often based on being simpler and cleaner. Not "better" (same or better functionality).

Finally, it is doesn't say much for the Mac OS X software ecosystem if Apple has to write every "answer" to key Windows software. Microsoft doesn't have to write on Windows. In fact, one of the key things Intuit did over this "decline years" of software writing was battle Microsoft into submission on MS Money. Hmmm, sink lots of development effort into Mac OS X Quicken or stop Microsoft from running you out of business ... I wonder which one their primary focused was on ??

 

[TebWeb]

Too late Intuit

Sorry Intuit, already switched to, and am happy with, iBank. Too late, especially if it's just basically the old 2007 just working now on Lion.

 

[diane143]

Quicken started out, some time in the late 80s, as a Mac only product.

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(btw, TurboTax started out as MacInTax),

Thanks for confirming what I thought, that Quicken was Mac first (as was Excel and Powerpoint).

MacInTax was sold by Chipsoft for awhile though, then Intuit bought it (or them) and kept the name for many years.

Diane