Lion is not ready. We will not see a release at WWDC.

Discussion in 'Mac OS X Lion (10.7)' started by hellomoto4, May 31, 2011.

  1. hellomoto4 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 11, 2008
    So today we learnt that Lion is definitely being "unveiled" at WWDC 2011:
    However, I'm here to say now to all those that are hoping for a release:
    Unless Apple is hiding something from devs, Lion will not be released next week. There's simply too many bugs and unpolished features.

    Not a whole lot of point to this thread, just pointing out to those that are hoping for a release that it is extremely unlikely a release will come.

  2. Hellhammer Moderator


    Staff Member

    Dec 10, 2008
    I never believed it would be released in WWDC so I'm not surprised. August-September seems the most likely IMO.
  3. mrapplegate macrumors 68030

    Feb 26, 2011
    Cincinnati, OH
    Nothing to think about. Those of us testing Lion have no doubt it is not ready for release on June 6. Plus unveil does not equal release.
  4. eawmp1 macrumors 601


    Feb 19, 2008
  5. Surely Guest


    Oct 27, 2007
    Los Angeles, CA
    I just assumed that it would be discussed/previewed at WWDC and released in the fall.....
  6. Capt Underpants macrumors 68030

    Capt Underpants

    Jul 23, 2003
    Austin, Texas
    Hopefully there are a few big features that Apple's been keeping secret -- which they will unveil at WWDC.
  7. roadbloc macrumors G3


    Aug 24, 2009

    And it wouldn't be the first time that Apple have withheld a stable release of an OS from developers until the official release. The same happened with Snow Leopard, the developers was screaming that it wasn't ready... but it was fine when it was released.
  8. Legion93 macrumors 6502a


    Apr 6, 2011
    Death Star, Rishi Maze
    It's the same thing - just when Apple released the Mac App Store back in 2010 they unveiled it like 3 months before it was available to download to the public. Same goes with the iPad 2 - it was unveiled at March 2 and was released on 11th (in this case the 25th here in the UK).

    Just because something is unveiled at a press conference does not mean it will be released that moment/immediately. I'm sure Apple will release Lion maximum of 3 months before schedule (probably around August till September in my opinion, based on previous releases).
  9. ajvizzgamer101 macrumors 65816

    Mar 3, 2008
    United States
    I think Lion will be ready with in a month. This keynote is how iCloud will bridge the gap between iOS and Mac OS X.
  10. boilingpoint macrumors member

    May 18, 2011
    Totally agree

    But remember when the earlier Mac OS versions were released...

    They had plenty of bugs and they had been stable after ~6 times updates.

    I guess Lion will be the same case as the earlier Mac OS.

    There will be plenty of buggggggggggggggsssssssssssssssssssss! But Apple fanboy always says, "it is perfectly stable and I love Lion~~~".
  11. TheAppleDragon, May 31, 2011
    Last edited: May 31, 2011

    TheAppleDragon macrumors member

    Jun 21, 2010
    Who said it would be released?

    Clearly they don't use the Internet. Or the DP itself.

    EDIT: Should update this... did it ever occur to anyone that at the last Apple keynote, the Mac used to show off Lion had one of the recently-added wallpapers? It could be that this build was the same they used then, though it isn't likely.
  12. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003
    I'm with you. I'm expecting an ambitious cloud offering from Apple and not this store your music in the cloud ****, although I'm sure that will be a part of it. MobileMe was their dress rehearsal.
  13. maflynn Moderator


    Staff Member

    May 3, 2009
    I think the consensus was that apple was only going to unveil 10.7, never to release it.

    I mean it would be a bonus if they did but expectations have been for the unveiling.
  14. baryon macrumors 68040


    Oct 3, 2009
    While they "unveil" it, they will also give us a release date. That release date will probably be sooner than later, as it just sounds better to give a closer release date. Maybe the versions they are giving to developers are a few versions behind... But honestly I have no idea.
  15. BLACKFRIDAY macrumors regular

    May 23, 2011

    I am not looking for a release @ WWDC. The release is far from now. At least 2 - 3 months.
  16. Goldfrapp macrumors 601


    Jul 31, 2005
    OP, I don't know where you got the idea that someone thought that Lion would be released at WWDC. No source or person has ever claimed anything like that.

    Again, at WWDC, all we will get is a new build with some new exciting (maybe even groundbreaking) features. That is all. No actual release until Fall.
  17. MacBookPro13" macrumors 6502a


    Jan 25, 2011

  18. ErikGrim macrumors 68040


    Jun 20, 2003
    Brisbane, Australia
    No surprise here.

    Also: There will be no major new features revealed at WWDC. What you see in previews are what you get in release. Any "new" features will be related to the iCloud and iOS 5. Perhaps we'll see a new iTunes. Perhaps we'll see AirDrop work with iOS.

    But no, there has never been a brand new feature just pulled out of the hat this late in the game. Ever.
  19. Thunderbird macrumors 6502a


    Dec 25, 2005
    Those aren't bugs, they are features ;)

    Fanbois will find release through a macgasm once Lion is unveiled. :)

    Like many others on this thread, I anticipate Steve-o will announce the approximate or even exact release date for Lion at WWDC, which will most likely be in August sometime.
  20. Maclver macrumors 68020


    Nov 23, 2008
    36°07′53″N 95°56′14″W
    There has been plenty of rumors that Lion would drop on WWDC day

    and even on Macrumors front page

    So there is rumors out there! And Steve said it would be released Summer 2011 not fall!
  21. Goldfrapp macrumors 601


    Jul 31, 2005
    Fine, I stand corrected. But then again, June 6th ain't no summer. :D
  22. slb macrumors 6502

    Apr 15, 2005
    New Mexico
    My guess is that Lion won't be released at WWDC, but after Xcode 4 suddenly went GM after a string of buggy previews, I'm open to any possibility.
  23. hellomoto4 thread starter macrumors 6502a


    Jul 11, 2008
    Although I understand unveil does not mean release, many of my friends and colleagues believed that it did. Meaning that many "Apple noobs" (à la my friends) could also believe it to be true.

    I'm sure they will announce a date, probably sometime in Spring (most of you guys' fall). Although they originally stated winter (your summer) they probably a bit behind.

    I would love to see a few new features as well but doubtful.
    Cannot wait for iTunes release, I'm sure we'll see that soon alongside iCloud integration. I'm sick of the old style traffic lights on iTunes in Lion!
  24. farmersland, Jun 1, 2011
    Last edited: Jun 1, 2011

    farmersland macrumors newbie

    May 31, 2011
    I always doubted too that we would see Lion released at WWDC.

    But I am a bit curious if you remember what Apple told us at their last Presentation of Lion: They said that they will release it in summer 2011. If I look at the current Developer Preview 3, I would say that they are on schedule. DP3 was a huge improvement in stability and the whole system seems to look and feel somewhat polished. Sure, there are some minor bugs to iron out in Safari or Preview. But I can't see why they should postpone their release to fall or even spring 2012. That makes no sense.

    I am pretty sure that we will see Lion released in June or July.
  25. baryon macrumors 68040


    Oct 3, 2009
    I have a programmer friend (I'm not saying that this proves anything), and he told me that there is always a priority list in what to do. Generally the priority is on bigger things, new features, etc... rather than small bugs. And since there is always more things to do than can be done, the programmer never gets to a point where they can actually fix the lower priority bugs (the ones that people keep saying "how is it possible that this bug is still not fixed!?").

    It is quite possible that once they get Lion to be feature complete - and that can happen any time, maybe it already is - they will be finally able to move onto the small bugs everyone is talking about. Maybe fixing them is very fast, the only reason they haven't been fixed until now is that they were low priority.

    Of course I know nothing about developing an entire OS or anything like that, but this is just an idea that may make it possible for Lion to be released "soon" - but not WWDC, that's still too soon.

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