I am sooooooo sorry I installed Lion. Real problems! I have NEVER had a Mac freeze before. Now it freezes or crashes several times a day! Software programs launch by themselves, files open. What a nightmare! Believe me this will kill Apple's impeccable reputation with its devotees. I have looked for upgrades to fix this but so far nothing. I have to run disk repair! UGH!!!!!!!! Good Grief!
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Lion is terrible!
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OP, your issues sound out of the ordinary. I'd recommend running a few rounds of memtest and/or contacting Apple.
You could also try a clean install. There may some incompatible code left over from your prior SL install (make a TM backup first).
You could also try a clean install. There may some incompatible code left over from your prior SL install (make a TM backup first).
I think the crash and freezon is caused by your small RAM. It happened to me before I upgraded my Ram. Go to upgarde your Ram, and you probably will change your mind. The lion works like a cham to me, I can not even think about looking back.
I have an old Mac Mini with 2GB that I use as a HTPC. It also began crashing under Lion. However it was not the lack of RAM, but rather heat. Lion 1.7.0 ran much hotter than SL (1.7.1 is a bit better). The extra heat exposed stability issues with the RAM and resulted in crashes. Memtest confirmed the issue. I replaced the RAM with old modules from a MBP (still just 2GB) and it has been perfectly stable ever since.
MisterMe
macrumors G4
So you have a Mac running Lion. So do I. Problems have causes. You have given not one hint about the cause of your problem.
tkermit
macrumors 68040
Just do a clean reinstall. I know it shouldn't be necessary, and you might be able to fix your problems some other way, but that might just be the easiest way to get rid of your issues.
works fine for🙄... oh wait.. no it doesn't! (Wifi Dropouts, wifi connects but still says connection failed, time machine keychain errors, sluggish, safari videos playback issues...not flash related) I was frying eggs off my Macbook Air while Lion was installed. (DAYS after indexing) Went back to Snow Leopard. SMOOTH Sailing😀....
After 5 clean installs, PRAM resets, disk permissions and wasting 3 days last week... I went baaaaaaack.
After 5 clean installs, PRAM resets, disk permissions and wasting 3 days last week... I went baaaaaaack.
thadoggfather
macrumors P6
I don't think you tried hard enough.
6th time is a charm 😛
I put lion on my 2010 13" and went immediately back to SL when I found out Samba 3 was removed (crucial for XBMC), then I put Lion back on and manually installed it through MacPorts (what a process), and a few annoying bugs and changes and poor battery life made me go back to SL. Don't think I'll upgrade again. Even way down the road.
It made me appreciate Expose more too
I think the only hardware smooth with it is the 2011 MBA. Even then, if I could get SL on it (and had a 2011 MBA also)... I wouldn't object.
I'd also buy the 2011 MBA today if I could put SL on it. Looks like I'm stuck with my lazy Intel C2D 2.13 (welcome to 2008) for the foreseeable future. SL on the new MBA PLEASE!😡
thadoggfather
macrumors P6
yep my MBP from last year runs on the same old C2D I had when I had a 15" unibody and a pre-unibody MBP.
But I like the battery life (or did before I 'upgraded' to Lion, which is why I switched back-- this is a Mac portable not a desk-tethered machine), the smaller factor (relative to 15" I was used to, haven't looked back honestly), and I don't game and rarely encode (mostly use the machine for photos and casual tasks) so i don't mind.
Plus SSD lets this puppy fly for daily tasks. So 'slower CPU' doesn't bug me too much. Plus, I still think I like having the 320M over some 'Intel integrated' junk. Intel and graphics cards should not be in the same sentence.
I'd be more annoyed if I bought a top spec 15 or 17" from last year (I had the antiglare 15" i7, but returned it because it was 2 x the price of the base 13" and I didn't use the additional juice), only to have the base 2011 MBA keep up or even beat it in benchmarking! Talk about impressive!
I really don't think C2D is what makes Lion run slow. I think Lion just runs slow. Try playing with it on a 2011 13" pro at the store, the graphics are glitchy (full screen animation, it hiccuped every time).
When people say they "have no problems," I really think it's just they aren't as observant as you and I and others who are nitpicky (and are not trolls, and otherwise like Mac products). Unless they already have a shot battery that doesn't last, or never part with the AC adapter... Notwithstanding perhaps a few Mac models that Lion was probably built with in mind (ahem 2011 MBA, some desktops maybe, etc etc).
Even the home page says 'Lion: the king of desktop' (but note, not the laptop haha)
But I like the battery life (or did before I 'upgraded' to Lion, which is why I switched back-- this is a Mac portable not a desk-tethered machine), the smaller factor (relative to 15" I was used to, haven't looked back honestly), and I don't game and rarely encode (mostly use the machine for photos and casual tasks) so i don't mind.
Plus SSD lets this puppy fly for daily tasks. So 'slower CPU' doesn't bug me too much. Plus, I still think I like having the 320M over some 'Intel integrated' junk. Intel and graphics cards should not be in the same sentence.
I'd be more annoyed if I bought a top spec 15 or 17" from last year (I had the antiglare 15" i7, but returned it because it was 2 x the price of the base 13" and I didn't use the additional juice), only to have the base 2011 MBA keep up or even beat it in benchmarking! Talk about impressive!
I really don't think C2D is what makes Lion run slow. I think Lion just runs slow. Try playing with it on a 2011 13" pro at the store, the graphics are glitchy (full screen animation, it hiccuped every time).
When people say they "have no problems," I really think it's just they aren't as observant as you and I and others who are nitpicky (and are not trolls, and otherwise like Mac products). Unless they already have a shot battery that doesn't last, or never part with the AC adapter... Notwithstanding perhaps a few Mac models that Lion was probably built with in mind (ahem 2011 MBA, some desktops maybe, etc etc).
Even the home page says 'Lion: the king of desktop' (but note, not the laptop haha)
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Yeah, I Agree
I have a 15" macbook pro laptop and this might work better on a desktop. Another reply suggested dumping older app suites. Have you any idea how much Adobe suites are? Many of us have one level back because it's sooo costly. If conflicts with software programs was a risk, Apple should have issued a caution.
I work on my computer so I have maxed-out memory. Believe me, it's not memory. I designed this to run BIG programs.
Safari is slow.
To be honest, if this were Microsoft, I'd be grateful I could run anything but this is MAC! And we have grown to expect better. I have worshiped Steve Jobs at the altar of Mac since I was a kid. This is not acceptable; I paid a little over $2200 for my laptop ( with maxed-out memory). It's a Rolls Royce so I don't accept Ford performance. No excuse, Steve.
I have a 15" macbook pro laptop and this might work better on a desktop. Another reply suggested dumping older app suites. Have you any idea how much Adobe suites are? Many of us have one level back because it's sooo costly. If conflicts with software programs was a risk, Apple should have issued a caution.
I work on my computer so I have maxed-out memory. Believe me, it's not memory. I designed this to run BIG programs.
Safari is slow.
To be honest, if this were Microsoft, I'd be grateful I could run anything but this is MAC! And we have grown to expect better. I have worshiped Steve Jobs at the altar of Mac since I was a kid. This is not acceptable; I paid a little over $2200 for my laptop ( with maxed-out memory). It's a Rolls Royce so I don't accept Ford performance. No excuse, Steve.
ljonesj
macrumors 6502a
well i found one of my first big problems with mac osx lion any of my external drives that are not formated to the osx filesystem when i share say oh i am here but when you click on me i say oh i am not there so i reformated my portable drive which i wanted to leave as fat 32 to allow it to be read on my macs and my windows xp and 7 computers if i unplug it to osx file system and the mac mini says oh its there on my laptop and oh i can access this fine i find that screwy since it worked fine on sl
sidewinder
macrumors 68020
ljonesj,
Have you ever heard of any of the following?
Capitalization
Periods
Commas
Paragraphs
Fix you post so we can comprehend it.
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Have you ever heard of any of the following?
Capitalization
Periods
Commas
Paragraphs
Fix you post so we can comprehend it.
S-
NT1440
macrumors P6
ljonesj
macrumors 6502a
I find it funny when you are the only the second one to say something about that when there are how many members that are on here that don't care.
I hope they fix my sharing issue with other filesystem's on my external hd's soon. i hope they dont merge the line of the air and macbook pro as i think that would be a mistake
I hope they fix my sharing issue with other filesystem's on my external hd's soon. i hope they dont merge the line of the air and macbook pro as i think that would be a mistake
sidewinder
macrumors 68020
I don't care as long as what you write is understandable. That post was hard to read. So, if you want people to read your posts and possibly provide answers, make an attempt at using proper sentence structure and punctuation.
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ljonesj
macrumors 6502a
lol Well it's funny as I said the same thing in this post and someone answered. Then gave me a link to the apple bug report. So the two of you are wrong in that since but i will you this i will try to work on the structure of my post
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1218879/
Then there's this if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1218879/
Then there's this if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all.
MisterMe
macrumors G4
I'm not that much into streams of consciousness. Ranting and raving about having a problem or problems is not the same as giving information about the configuration of the machine and other relevant information that might be useful in diagnosing the problem.