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Lion slow to boot?
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iPagan, what is your idea of clean install? I am not trying to insult you, just you are the first i have heard that did a clean install and had a longer boot time than SL. Did you format the drive first? Install from DVD or USB stick?
Clean Install
Deleted everything in SSD and installed ALL applications that in SL
Clean Install is the best way.
For me upgrading over SL really slowed things down so I decided to format and reload with LION only this weekend and I have to say that my computer is definitely quicker on a clean install of Lion only. I'm running my old MBP which is a 2.4ghz core duo with 4gb of ram.
Clean install is def the way to go.
Clean install is def the way to go.
Clean install is certainly the easy way out, but if you are willing and able to look at the log files you can find and correct what ever is holding things up. I really don't have the time to restore all the applications and file I've got after a clean install. Usually takes me a couple of days to get everything going again when I get a new system (which is, of course, a clean install).
What bothers me most is the shutdown takes as long as to boot. And there's no log for the shutdown at all.
Hi,
I had the some problem with my Macbook Air 4GB/SSD - time boot problem after upgrade on 20.7. to Lion (from power on switch 4-5 minutes till login window comes, Snow Leopard before about 18 sec) and I spend two days to find the solution - I try all what you wrote here, all what the others write on internet, but nothing help.
After many hours of checking I found temporary solution (because this is real serious bug inside Lion) as following :
Go to the System preferences-Users and Groups and just delete all what is under settings for Network Account Server till comes back "Join" button in UsersxGroups screen.
After restart your computer and all is WORKING WELL ! and your notebook will start fast again (14-16 seconds).
OK, you will lost the usage of Network Account Server future, but this bug is so big, that I am sure Apple will fix it very fast and after you can Join back to Network Account Server.
You can see more information here on Apple Support Communities uder article "slow boot after upgrading".
I really spend two days with analyzation boot procedure of Lion, network analyze and this is the reason for BOOT TIME problem - some serious bug inside Lion and Network Account Server, and not only with time boot, there are more problems there...time boot delay is only "side" efect of some other errors.
Try this and let me know, I am sure, you will be suprise as fast will start your Lion after you delete all under Network Account Server settings... This is serious BUG, but hopefully this will solve your problem with starting time till upgrade from Apple come.
That's what I discovered, back in post #48 in this thread. However most people don't use the network accounts. In my case it turns out to be failure to mount some network drives. Apparently it is a known issue. Wait for 10.7.1 I guess.
The same system log I looked at to discover the slow login problem also records system activities when shutting down.
If you are using the system the "Lion way", not quitting applications manually, then shutdown (and startup) will take longer as Lion needs to quit all the running applications and restart them when you boot up.
Have you selected a large image to use as your desktop background? If so, is it on the boot disk, or located somewhere else?
I saw precisely this behavior for my wife who was using a HUGE image from an slow external disk for her background. Resizing the image to match the size of the display and saving on the boot disk made her login MUCH faster.
Spidey!!!
To the guy who questioned my notion of clean install:
I wiped the hard drive with zero's with Disk Utility of Lion on a bootable USB thumb drive first. Then I formatted the HD with Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Not clean enough??
The boot time is longer than in SL.
Some of the features in Lion are silly to me. I emphasize--to me. Launch Pad and Mission Control, for instance. I do NOT use them.
*Very* mixed feelings about Lion.
It might be Apple's Vista!
Not a mature release...
I wiped the hard drive with zero's with Disk Utility of Lion on a bootable USB thumb drive first. Then I formatted the HD with Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Not clean enough??
The boot time is longer than in SL.
Some of the features in Lion are silly to me. I emphasize--to me. Launch Pad and Mission Control, for instance. I do NOT use them.
*Very* mixed feelings about Lion.
It might be Apple's Vista!
Not a mature release...
Your clean install is the same as mine. Have you tried verbose boot (cmd-v) to see where it is hanging up? I agree that some of the new features are not for everyone, and I myself do not use many of the new features. Overall though I feel it was a worthwhile upgrade, and certainly hope it does not turn into vista for mac
But if I do a clean install and then use the Migration Assistant, won't that just slow me down again?
Really long
im getting boot times that are 5+ minutes or longer now. It was not a clean install, but I am going to try formatting soon.
I have a 17" 2010 MBP, i7, 8gb Ram, 500gb 7200rpm drive. This is ridiculous.
im getting boot times that are 5+ minutes or longer now. It was not a clean install, but I am going to try formatting soon.
I have a 17" 2010 MBP, i7, 8gb Ram, 500gb 7200rpm drive. This is ridiculous.
Lion boot speed increase
I have a 2006 MBP with an OWC 120GB SSD. Boot times greatly increased with Lion also. But as mentioned in post #62, my MBP had a network login. I deleted it and restarted.
Boot time before turning off network login: 44 seconds
Boot time after turning off network login: 17 seconds -same as before Lion
If I remember, the search policy will try to find a network account before a local login. I would suggest that you check the network login (System Preferences / Users & Groups / Login Options & Network Account Server.
Since I volunteer at a school which uses a lot of mobile accounts on MBPs that log into a set of apple servers, this does slow it down some.... but not like I was experiencing with Lion.
Hope this helps
I have a 2006 MBP with an OWC 120GB SSD. Boot times greatly increased with Lion also. But as mentioned in post #62, my MBP had a network login. I deleted it and restarted.
Boot time before turning off network login: 44 seconds
Boot time after turning off network login: 17 seconds -same as before Lion
If I remember, the search policy will try to find a network account before a local login. I would suggest that you check the network login (System Preferences / Users & Groups / Login Options & Network Account Server.
Since I volunteer at a school which uses a lot of mobile accounts on MBPs that log into a set of apple servers, this does slow it down some.... but not like I was experiencing with Lion.
Hope this helps
I finally decided to do a full on clean install. I put the installer on a flash drive and wiped the drive and reinstalled from the flash drive (which was a crazy fast install). I must say that a clean install (not installed on top of SL) made a big improvement vs just running the installer.
I thought that by reinstalling SL before installing Lion would be the same. It was not, many slowdowns and lockups. My boot up went from 50 seconds to 32 seconds. If your boot is slow consider doing a complete reinstall.
I thought that by reinstalling SL before installing Lion would be the same. It was not, many slowdowns and lockups. My boot up went from 50 seconds to 32 seconds. If your boot is slow consider doing a complete reinstall.
If you have a spare hard drive do a clean install then backup the fresh install. Now migrate your data and re-test. If it sux then format and pull the fresh install over using carbon copy cloner or super duper and manually pull your data over otherwise your golden !
HackDaBox !
Two of my computers went from sub 20 second startups in SL to about a minute with Lion.
What fixed the problem for me was my computers joining to the Network Account Server on my SL Server. Deleting this got my MBP and Mini, both with SSD, back 12-18 seconds respectively. I would assume most people aren't using a server or have this, but for those that do, worth looking into.
System Preferences -> Users & Groups -> Login Options -> Network Account Server.
I am sure the clean install would have done the same, perhaps until I joined the Network Account Server. Dunno, maybe if/when I upgrade to Lion Server it will be fixed.
What fixed the problem for me was my computers joining to the Network Account Server on my SL Server. Deleting this got my MBP and Mini, both with SSD, back 12-18 seconds respectively. I would assume most people aren't using a server or have this, but for those that do, worth looking into.
System Preferences -> Users & Groups -> Login Options -> Network Account Server.
I am sure the clean install would have done the same, perhaps until I joined the Network Account Server. Dunno, maybe if/when I upgrade to Lion Server it will be fixed.
My network acct server is grayed out with nothing to join and i'm still with the long boot times.