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Liquid Glass - A must read critique
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Not sure about Big Sur, but Jony was responsible for iOS7 icons redesign and switching to flat UI in 10.10 Yosemite. Scott Forstall probably was fired due Swiss railway clock design used in iOS, which Apple had failed to license, forcing Apple to pay Swiss railways a reported $21 million in compensation.
Having had a few months for it to set in, with Beta 6 running really smoothly on my iPhone 12 I can honestly say that on the iPhone at least I quite like it. There are still some legibility concerns but nothing deal-breaking. I've kind of come around to Apple's way of thinking.
They realised that software isn't necessarily graphic design because elements are not static and in constant motion. By going with the materials the iPhone is actually made of as the UI element they've added tactility to it. I like the way the buttons morph into the menus and back again. This is all personal opinion of course.
Some parts of it though are out of the park. The lockscreen team outdid themselves this year. The way they layer images between the expanding clock and notifications is really well done and the spatial photo thing really, really flipping cool. Sometimes its ok to be pointless but fun!
They realised that software isn't necessarily graphic design because elements are not static and in constant motion. By going with the materials the iPhone is actually made of as the UI element they've added tactility to it. I like the way the buttons morph into the menus and back again. This is all personal opinion of course.
Some parts of it though are out of the park. The lockscreen team outdid themselves this year. The way they layer images between the expanding clock and notifications is really well done and the spatial photo thing really, really flipping cool. Sometimes its ok to be pointless but fun!
Yet most smaller interface elements on both macOS and iOS remain in the same boring flat style. I honestly don’t get why they didn’t give those a matching Liquid Glass overhaul too. Like the window control buttons, progress bars, check boxes, etc.
Even just a little flourish of pretend reflected light so they look like little jewels would be nice.
Whilst I like iOS, I think the windowing in iPadOS is a step backwards. I use an 11" Pro and the usefulness of a windowed interface degrades the smaller your screen becomes. This is compounded by the hair-brained removal of split-view and slide over for which the windowing system is not a replacement. They made it a slightly better laptop but a worse tablet.
They’ve already overdone it in macos
If they added any more there’d be no more room left on the screen to actually see your work
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My arguement has always been that the people wanting the iPad to be a better laptop just have buyers remorse for not buying a Mac in the first place.
Seems I recall seeing a video of the beta and the guy doing the video demonstrated he could quickly snap two windows and they'd split (one on the left half and the other on the right). Seems that handles your "split view" complaint?
I think about it more from the general end user. Apple went at pains to stress that you could still have full screen apps but then press a button and activate ‘Mac mode’. The average consumer knows how to use a windowed interface but it does go against the simplicity of the device. Split/slide should really still exist in ‘iPad mode’ too.
A glass check box doesn’t have to take up more space than a flat one. Aqua proofed that.
Perhaps none of it has to take up more space
Yet somehow Tahoe manages to steal a good 5-10% of your screen real estate for shadows, and rounding and etc etc compared to sequoia
I wonder that too. Maybe because it was so rushed they just didn’t have time? It’s baffling.
They say they want consistency with all their platforms but the UI isn’t even consistent with itself on *one* of the platforms
That’s by purely by choice on Apple’s part not because it has to be. I don’t like it either.
you've measured this, and it's '5-10%' of screen real estate..? 🤔
This adds nothing to the discussion. Some things are conversational and don’t require exact facts. We know macOS Tahoe windows take up more screen estate than previous versions.
huh? someone makes a claim, and i ask about it. and what does this mean: "Some things are conversational and don’t require exact facts." that would seem to apply to opinions and theories, not to a statement that reads as 'fact' 🤔
I completely agree with Louie Mantia. I was always the first to install all the new Apple beta versions and was impressed by the level of attention to detail. Now, for the first time, I have no desire to update.
The least tragic version is still if we use light mode, but even then, it's design for design's sake, not that it adds any functionality.
Apple needs help.
The least tragic version is still if we use light mode, but even then, it's design for design's sake, not that it adds any functionality.
Apple needs help.
same, I usually move straight to the new os from the first dev beta
I'll be staying on sequoia until something I need stops working
yes, I measured it with my eyes.
looks/feels like around 5-10% to me depending on what you have open
doesn't really matter if it's exact, just that it seems that way is not a good thing
I've also posted some side by sides here somewhere if you want to look for yourself
got it 🤔. honestly, tho, my own user experience feels not-the-least diminished from sequoia. plus tahoe is easier to spell 😉
Different strokes for different folks as they say
For me it’s bothersome enough to not update
If they bring back compact tabs to safari maybe I could stomach it