fair enough, altho i don't understand ppl who would not want the under-the-hood improvements, new options and capabilities, of a newer OS because of appearance, or the lack if compact tabs. but this is the great thing here: we can use what we want 🙏
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Liquid Glass - A must read critique
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I haven’t personal found any under the hood improvements or new capabilities that are compelling to me
Spotlight getting better is nice, but still doesn’t compete with Alfred
Maybe there are new things on offer that I missed?
There does not seem to be any major performance improvements
Maybe when they stop coding for x86 there could be a smidge of performance bump
But quite frankly my m4 pro MacBook Pro AND my old Intel Mac Mac mini are pretty quick for what I need to do
Haven’t seen any “snappier-ness” in either machine from Tahoe
Just lots of gui padding that makes my work areas smaller for no particular reason other than to chase some aesthetic that I don’t know who came up with for no particular reason that I can understand
To me macOS sequoia looks fantastic
a smidge of transparency on top of an interface that works well for me
To my eyes, in Tahoe, they’ve added a ton of padding to make more shadows and reflections that I don’t need and also don’t look nicer enough to me to make it worth the effort
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tahoe feels snappier here than sequioa, but it's not profound. i do like the launchpad replacement (i know others don't); i find it quick & easy to use. am liking the reworked control center. mostly, i like the new look, and either way, i get my work done. but sequoia is no slouch. whatever works 👍
To be fair, if spotlight now gives people things that Alfred does that less nerdy uses find helpful, that is great
I’m not a launchpad person anyway
I mostly try to keep my hands on the keyboard
Unless I’m in Logic Pro, in which case I’m doing entirely different sorts of things
i used it all the time on my MBA, but... don't miss it. also a logic pro person ☺️
I miss Launchpad, and the new Spotlight app launcher feels too janky, so I've been making my own app menu in a folder pinned to my dock.
In all honesty, that clock design was about the most absurd claim to rights I've seen in a long time. There were clock/watch faces over a century ago with no numbers and a second hand with a dot or other shape on it. That is more of an European bizarre thing than a "rip off" as claimed.
From what I've seen it's a lot better of an update on iOS. This thread is for MacOS though.
So… now that the official release is out, what's your judgement? 😏
Tell me about it what a mess and can't believe someone greenlit this for release. So many inconsistent and horrible UI issues all across macOS Tahoe, not to mention removing compact tabs for no reason so now I get to waste more screen real estate for the same thing. I downgraded to 15.7 on both my Macs.
Such trash that I downgraded to Sequoia after a few days of trying it out. It's is a worse version for me. If people like it good for them.
While I liked the flat minimalist design of Sequoia, Liquid could develop into something good. The initial videos and mockups look stunning and the thought process behind the design is amazing. Turning the device into a slab of glass and then implementing an user interface that turns this glad into a part of the experience, with refracting, movement, a whole new but natural morphology of shapes and animations… that is just neat. Especially as glass/water can be transparent, translucent, opaque, colored and soon… a world of possibilities and semantic interface architecture. Some of these first concepts look amazing.
It feels as if during the beta, faced with criticism, Apple pedaled back and doing that has never made a bold design gesture stronger, as people always, invariably have problems with the “new”. The more sandblasted look, shadows to make typography readable, other compromises do not really help. Another problem is that the glass idea has been taken too far with the icons also becoming colorful stacks of glassy shapes. Icons are a different part of the UI and do not need to be a twist on the same idea,it’s a bit too much and does not add to the fluidity of the main interface. Actually this step results in the feeling of having glass on glass on glass, which is just a bit too much.
But if you look at some of the interface options that still keep some of the earlier ideas, these are beautiful, like the way light is prismatically refracted under the text picker’s loupe or the smooth liquidity of the submenus in the camera app.
I hope Apple cleans this up, makes it a bit simpler and cleaner while going forward with the idea of a living, reactive and responsive interface that seems to have spirit and intelligence. The way the iPhone UI reacted to buttons pressed is the way to go towards a smartly animated operating system that can, integrate AI as the “spirit” animating the liquid.
It feels as if during the beta, faced with criticism, Apple pedaled back and doing that has never made a bold design gesture stronger, as people always, invariably have problems with the “new”. The more sandblasted look, shadows to make typography readable, other compromises do not really help. Another problem is that the glass idea has been taken too far with the icons also becoming colorful stacks of glassy shapes. Icons are a different part of the UI and do not need to be a twist on the same idea,it’s a bit too much and does not add to the fluidity of the main interface. Actually this step results in the feeling of having glass on glass on glass, which is just a bit too much.
But if you look at some of the interface options that still keep some of the earlier ideas, these are beautiful, like the way light is prismatically refracted under the text picker’s loupe or the smooth liquidity of the submenus in the camera app.
I hope Apple cleans this up, makes it a bit simpler and cleaner while going forward with the idea of a living, reactive and responsive interface that seems to have spirit and intelligence. The way the iPhone UI reacted to buttons pressed is the way to go towards a smartly animated operating system that can, integrate AI as the “spirit” animating the liquid.
Restoring to Sequoia right now, Tahoe UI is a uncomfortable mess right now.