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Bring back the hand-stitched leather! ;)

In all seriousness though, the new design works pretty well for the Calendar app.

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And it just makes it all look "dirty" to me with those particular styles of shadows.

I just ... bleh ...
Nothing in my previous two posts would suggest, that I prefer the new look in your examples. 🤔
It's just in those cases I prefer the look of macOS 26, but that doesn't mean I always like it more (at least not for now). On iPadOs for example, there are MANY visual oddities and broken things.

And I might add: Especially on macrumors, there is always the same cycle. When a new OS is shown/released, it's ALWAYS the ********* OS ever. Until next year, when the next OS is shown/released, then the previous OS (which was the *********) is now much better and no one wants to update. 😌
 
Nothing in my previous two posts would suggest, that I prefer the new look in your examples. 🤔
It's just in those cases I prefer the look of macOS 26, but that doesn't mean I always like it more (at least not for now). On iPadOs for example, there are MANY visual oddities and broken things.

And I might add: Especially on macrumors, there is always the same cycle. When a new OS is shown/released, it's ALWAYS the ********* OS ever. Until next year, when the next OS is shown/released, then the previous OS (which was the *********) is now much better and no one wants to update. 😌

You're obviously running in different circles than I do.

Most of the folks I communicate with around all this are also long long time Mac folks and just about nobody is in the cycle you've described ... rather, it's been one long downward trend.

Most of us in this category vastly prefer the look and contrast and clarity of older macOS.

The "iOS-ification" of macOS is a big bummer to me.

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All jokes aside, for me Aqua is still king and with some modern tweaks and adjustments it would probably look absolutely epic.

Totally agree with you here.
 
We'll see later this year.
But even if it's running, looking and feeling great, there will always be folks who won't like it. 🤷‍♂️
Its more than just personal opinion this time though. There are some deep rooted accessibility issues regarding simple things like the legibility of text. I'm not trying to sound all negative: I hope they do fix it up! But with the current internal culture being what it is I wouldn't bet on it.
 
You're obviously running in different circles than I do.

Most of the folks I communicate with around all this are also long long time Mac folks and just about nobody is in the cycle you've described ... rather, it's been one long downward trend.

Most of us in this category vastly prefer the look and contrast and clarity of older macOS.

The "iOS-ification" of macOS is a big bummer to me.

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'most of us'... dozens of ppl? hundreds? thousands? and why should the opinions of long-time macusers be more important than newer ones?

none of us here can speak for all (or most) of us, and there are millions of macusers who don't spend their time on internet forums arguing about the finder icon (etc).

my mac experience is so good right now; even in developer beta 2, running fast, efficient. stable. and i am mostly used to the new GUI, and like it.

nothing's perfect (for example, i have had the dock locked away since 10.3.9 🤯, i don't like it). but that's just me. apple will do what they like, and everyone will have an opinion. and yet, somehow, we'll all get out work done 👍
 
This is very frustrating.

It's just not a net win to purposely confuse and blur the distinctions between discreet elements of content and input fields and controls like this.

It's the epitome of form over function.

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Main and probably only real problem is, that most ui elements are still completely flat. But here you can see, what it should and hopefully will look like in the final version:
 
Those of you who say it will stay this way and not get better in the official release. But what if it is? Will you say, you ranted to soon?
Sure, I’ll happily say it because I want it to get better. I’m actually going to have to use the darn thing. I’m not sticking with iOS 18.
 
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In the past I would 100% agree. But the current Apple culture is to convince people they are right, not to do what's right. I can picture the higher ups in the UX department scoffing at the comments, complaining that people are 'looking at it wrong' and not doing a thing between now and September when the general public gets hold of it.

I hope I'm wrong. I really do. But the inherent problems that Liquid Glass brings to their devices is not siloed to one product; it could poison their whole product line. Maybe they'll walk it back with 26.1. Or maybe it will take people seeing how similar a Samsung dervice is to the way their iPhone used to look that will make them pay attention.

I'm being hyperbolic. Surely Apple still listen to criticism? Current evidence bets against them.
Honestly, an even more authoritarian Apple is going to be just worse on everything and stings many many people. I know it’s tough to listen to critics and not every critics are built equally, with some of them being just whiny.

With that being said, this whole Liquid Glass (just Apples fancy way to replicate Aero Glass) thing and the concern over contrast and readability probably is not going to be something that Apple will bother to “fix”. Some tweaks sure, but remember the monochrome app icon tint feature released last year? Yeah the review on that is somewhat mixed. Granted Apple’s polish probably is the best but app icons are colourful for a reason. Liquid Glass just makes the monochrome situation worse.

If by some magic someone higher up inside Apple realises the criticism and try to fix the problem, we might see some positive changes, such as glass app icon border but retains icon colour. We will see.
 
What's extra sad to me is when you look at the product line up (software and hardware) and how tiny the updates are, everywhere.

...and then see all this effort being spent on a visual change that is a mixed bag and really not needed.

Apple is accomplishing so little these days if one really looks closely at what actually gets worked on & released.
 
I'm sorry, but from a visual design point of view, I see absolutely no similarities between Aero Glass and Liquid Glass. 🤷‍♂️
Aero Glass was mainly glassy looking window backgrounds with cheap and old looking icons and buttons plastered on top.
 
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Bring back the hand-stitched leather! ;)

In all seriousness though, the new design works pretty well for the Calendar app.

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I don’t care as much for stitched leather as I miss the contrast, where you could tell what is turned on and what isn’t just by a quick glance, irrespective of how your monitor is calibrated. Modern designers seem to hate contrast for whatever the reason, but also many of them work on 10bit professional displays where a different shade of gray or blue might be good enough indicator of whether something is selected or not.
 
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I don’t care as much for stitched letter as I miss the contrast, where you could tell what is turned on and what isn’t just by a quick glance, irrespective of how your monitor is calibrated. Modern designers seem to hate contrast for whatever the reason, but also many of them work on 10bit professional displays where a different shade of gray or blue might be good enough indicator of whether something is selected or not.

Agree completely.

This isn't really about "flat" or "minimal" vs "skeuomorphic" design ideologies to me, so much as it's about poor contrast and legibility.
 
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