Yeah im staying on Mojave for sure. Both iOS and macOS do not interest me. More emojis? yawn. Widgets? Id get an android if I cared. Discover trending gifs? I don't give a damn. new Siri features? zzzzz it was fun when it came out in 2011 though.
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Yeah im staying on Mojave for sure. Both iOS and macOS do not interest me. More emojis? yawn. Widgets? Id get an android if I cared. Discover trending gifs? I don't give a damn. new Siri features? zzzzz it was fun when it came out in 2011 though.
If you read very carefully that article ends with:
Sadly that article is too old and out of date to imply anything about Big Sur compatibility.
RIP 2012 Mac Mini - the best Mini that ever existed.
Can't wait to pick up a newly-unsupported Mac on the cheap from ebay...
The 2011 with the Radeon 6630M was pretty good too.
Catalina works great on it. Looks like dosdude1 will enable Big Sur to run on it this summer.
Why do people always think software support is tied to performance only? That's not (usually) how it works. In most cases it's some incompatibility that has little to do with raw power. Otherwise, why aren't you demanding Big Sur still support, say, the 2008 Mac Pro since it's more powerful than a 2019 MacBook Air?
Btw, increased prices? You know Inflation is a thing?
That can't be the reason, since the late 2013 and mid 2014 15" MBP with Nvidia 750M are still supported, while the late 2013 iMac with the same GPU isn't. There must be something else.
Also can't be the (only) reason, since late 2013 iMacs too have the 4360 and are not supported.
Oh hey, we have the exact same model/configuration! Sad to see such a capable machine unsupported by Big Sur, but then again 8 years is a good run, 10 years if you count security patches..
I'd just like to understand how this rather peculiar pattern of supported Macs comes into being. Can't (only) be GPU architecture or WiFi chip, since iMacs and MBPs from late 2013 don't differ in that.
On the other hand I'm surprised to see iPad Air 2 and even iPad mini 4 still supported on iOS 14. Would rather have it the other way round, but I'm not complaining.
Certainly been the best value Mac I have ever owned. Got it as a refurb in 2013, when Apple prices were very low and the exchange rate was at its best in many years. Added 16GB RAM and later an external 1TB SSD. It has been running 24/7 from day one, and is still going strong. Outlived a mid-range Dell monitor and a Logitech speaker set all bought new at the same time.
Might try to string it out until the 2nd gen ARMs, and then make it a music station. Coz too much value is never enough.
I am on Mojave and very happy with it.
You know technology advances are a thing?
It has nothing to do with inflation. Apple is being cheaper and cheaper since just about the appearance of Retina Displays. Macs had way more value/performance back then. The turnaround happened at about 2013/2014.
32GB of RAM from Apple is close to being the same price as it was 7 years ago. Just look at the most high-end 27-in iMac. It comes with 8 GB of RAM, in exchange of a tremendous amount of 3 080 CAD. Incredible.
That's seriously awesome! Do you have any resources that you've successfully used for for figuring out which parts can be Frankensteined into which older Macs to give them the ability to run newer OSes?
Darn. My late 2013 didn't make the cut. Maybe the new iMac's will be among the first transitioned over to the new Apple chip, otherwise I'll have to try to stretch it's life for 1-2 more years. 10 years out of a computer is pretty darn good though. This machine still feels zippy at some things, but noticeably slow at others.
Assuming an inflation of 2 % annually, 3000 correspond to about 3500 after 7 years and that's probably not that far off, so "nothing to do with inflation" is quite a stretch.
But even more important is the exchange rate CAD-USD; down from about 1:1 in 2012, today one CAD is worth just 0.73 USD so that alone would make for a price increase from 3000 to 4100 CAD, inflation completely aside..
Regarding your RAM example, you might want to consider how even on the "free market" 32 GB of DDR4-2666 today isn't magnitudes cheaper than the same amount of DDR3-1600 was in 2012.
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Is there a way to keep my late 2012 "safe"? It's running great but now I'd be concerned doing anything sensitive on it like banking or shopping.
I don’t need a $7k display. I think my use at home will be fine with another display <$1000. In the short term, I have a spare 24” 1920x1080 monitor that I can use for home duties (such as bill payments) until I need more screen real estate or more color accuracy.
Apple generally provides security patches and the latest Safari version also for the previous two releases of macOS so you'll (we'll) be safe until late 2022.
After 2022, if you're doing sensitive things like banking I'd recommend switching to Firefox as your main browser which will probably continue to support Catalina for some more years than Safari will.
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The last insanely great Mac. My current plan is to ride mine into the Mojave sunset and make a decision about platforms then.
People with 8+ year old devices are cool. For example I don't expect my 2011 iMac, purchased eight years ago in mid-2012, to run Big Sur (although Mojave would have been nice). The problem is the Late 2013 iMac was still sold new less than five years ago and a lot of people were expecting to run the newest version of MacOS for at least 5 years after purchase.
My 2012 Mini runs Low Sierra and will "go no further".
My 2018 Mini runs Mojave and will "go no further". (I already have Big Sur and will try installing it on an external drive later today)
My 2015 MacBook Pro runs El Cap and I'm -thinking- about "upgrading"... to Low Sierra. Maybe, maybe not...
My 2018 Mini runs Mojave and will "go no further". (I already have Big Sur and will try installing it on an external drive later today)
My 2015 MacBook Pro runs El Cap and I'm -thinking- about "upgrading"... to Low Sierra. Maybe, maybe not...
Thanks for that. Man, if I get 10 years I’ll be happy to buy new.
I have a 16" MBP with i9 and 32 GB memory with the 5500 Radeon. I also have a 2012 retina MBP (with upgraded network card that allows watch to unlock). The 2012 has 768 GB SSD 16 MB RAM. Both are running Catalina 10.5.5
On daily non graphic intensive use the 2012 performs as well as the 2019. Boots faster. I do not need intensive graphic work, but have some large excel files I use on both.
It is a pity Big Sur won't be available for the 2012 - truly the best MAC I owned. Hopefully there will be hack. I suspect the hardware on the 2012 (was the highest configuration at the time) can run it well.
On daily non graphic intensive use the 2012 performs as well as the 2019. Boots faster. I do not need intensive graphic work, but have some large excel files I use on both.
It is a pity Big Sur won't be available for the 2012 - truly the best MAC I owned. Hopefully there will be hack. I suspect the hardware on the 2012 (was the highest configuration at the time) can run it well.