I don't agree, apple doesn't need customers, it gets them no matter what they so. Sony and HTC needs customers
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I don't agree, apple doesn't need customers, it gets them no matter what they so. Sony and HTC needs customers
??? lol ???
All brands need customers, are you sure you're ok ?
Let's have a game : no one buys any apple devices till 2014. Let's have a look on that smart idea : Apple doesn't need customers... lol
Thanks for that smile in this rainy french morning
Apple really needs to innovate more than just what the current iphone 5 has to offer. I mean they are creative people right? With alot of market share, why the hell they are being so boring with alot of excuses and just waiting, waiting for what? Dunno the end if the world maybe? Seesh
Thanks.. Someone clever, and realistic !!
Obviously Apple is full of creative people, indeed their products have changed the whole world of many techno products... But i mean they are getting less and less creative, innovative,... And over everything they know very well what consumers are waiting and they don't care about these expectations...while other brands listen and create. Its a shame because Apple is my favorite brand, i meant universe of products, that is almost a way of life. They should be lowlier to keep on being that thing that changed past decade
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akdj
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Interesting take....considering each and every iPhone iteration released has outsold the previous version, faster that the one it's replacing. As well, NO single handset bad ever outsold an iPhone of the same generation. The same is true with the iPad. They're garnering nearly 80% of smartphone profits and they're customer post sale support is absolutely the pinnacle or customer service itself in definition. While there are a fraction of us 'geeks' that may appreciate a larger phone...I think when folks throw around the 'lack of innovation BS' is just that. Horse puckey. Innovation and the 'simplicity' of iOS is a helluva lot more complex in 'the code' and underpinnings than that of what some may consider a more 'complex' or 'user-customizable' UI/OS. Apple and iOS is as innovative as it gets and the support for development is as innovative and complimentary as the system itself. A significant reason the hearty app development community is so much more 'active' in the iOS world. With better games, apps, and again...post purchase support. Another reason 75-80% of 'app revenue' has been paid to iOS developers and not the market leading Android platform.
How bizarre is that? For every iPhone sold, five Androids are. Yet for each Android app purchased....five iOS apps are bought by customers!
This is in parity with web surfing numbers (data use/platform) and online buying and purchasing.
Innovative. Some need to learn the meaning of the word before throwing it around in these forums in such a negative way ala Apple/iOS. It WAS Apple that completely re-invented the 'smartphone' as we know it today. It continues to be Apple that pushes out a nice update for EVERY device yearly. It continues to be the iOS development community that dominates in revenue and offerings.
I'd truly like to see Windows make some in roads. Take a bite outta the Android and iOS market....and continue to see everyone CONTINUE innovation as they've each done....including the new BB10! Competition is good for all. These are now powerful 'Mini Computers' we've got in our pockets. Capable of almost anything a computer can do and MORE capable than computers we ALL owned just a short five to ten years ago....with faster memory, more stable systems and a development community stronger and bigger than any software generation to date. Not to mention the speed of LTE. Beating that of most folks' home, wired Internet ISP. That's innovation friends....and it's been only six years since that original Iphone hit. Five since we saw a decent Android device....-and Windows is really only two years old. BB10 just arrived....and I think there's a lot more that can be done in this realm of technology. It's a fun time to be alive and enjoying this revolution. While each year may only seem evolutionary, we need to remember we are only a half decade into when the 'real revolution' began.
Forget Treo and BlackBerry. We saw what happened to that idea of 'smartphone' when the iPhone dropped,...and later the Androids!
Sit back. Enjoy what you have. Certainly there's not a one size fits all market. There's something for everyone. But as an OG Galaxy Note owner (2--my wife and I bought them on a whim for our business phones, we have iPhones for personal handsets)....I can honestly say I'll never EVER buy a phone that big again. My contract can't end quick enough....and the stylus, while fun to show off and play with for a week or two...it quickly becomes a novelty and I don't use mine anymore other than when clients sign for credit cards on Square. I can't wait to get rid of my 'Note'. While the Note 2 is a significant update, I've played with it and come to the same conclusion. iOS is where I've decided to 'live'. For now.
Good luck OP...but Apple knows what they're doing. Phone sales over 4.3" is actually quite small in the grand scheme of sales. It's easy to be swayed by the lure of a large screen...a stylus, 1080p....Et al. But in the grand scheme, the grass isn't always greener. Fitting a big phone where you once were able to easily slide your iPhone in and out of is no longer a possibility. The only pants my Note fit into are my hip pocket in my cargo pants. My Levi's. My slacks. My regular day in n out pants don't fit the Note. There's something to the size of a phone...a mobile phone and pocket computer that the 'masses' are looking for. If you're going to devote your resources to a single hand set each year...it makes sense to target the biggest demographic. Not the fringe. Thankfully though, these days your DO have a choice. Unfortunately it won't run iOS 🙁
A very good reply akdj.
Fed up with the likes of those that keep on ranting about the innovation BS such as the OP's. He even thinks Apple is reading this forum, which is a laugh. I to will never go with a larger wider phone as the competition, and one of the reason I will stick with the iPhone, not to mention iOS. The iPhone is a mature looking phone the way it is in my opinion, and having the plastic wider smartphones just does not cut it for me. Hope Apple will continue to allow those that want this size or provide two sizes, one for business people and one for the ranting kids.
The wider larger wants will never end. Don't they know they have the right to purchase the other manufacture phones ? 😕 😀
Fed up with the likes of those that keep on ranting about the innovation BS such as the OP's. He even thinks Apple is reading this forum, which is a laugh. I to will never go with a larger wider phone as the competition, and one of the reason I will stick with the iPhone, not to mention iOS. The iPhone is a mature looking phone the way it is in my opinion, and having the plastic wider smartphones just does not cut it for me. Hope Apple will continue to allow those that want this size or provide two sizes, one for business people and one for the ranting kids.
The wider larger wants will never end. Don't they know they have the right to purchase the other manufacture phones ? 😕 😀
More than just the topic, the size, the screen, the iOs...what surprises me the most since ive been talking here (or trying to do it in reality) is the violence of the opinions. If you don't agree the most numerous side (obviously the most clever ones, that want THEIR size, THEIR phones and every other opinion is...how'd u say "ranting kid's one"... sad...) you are weird, a fu***ing french strange guy...
I'm sad to see that.
Im aware of many truths. That size has advantages. Ive had all the iPhones till last weeks I sold my i5 because of trying an Note 2 at a friend's place. Huge experience for the "ranting kid" i am. I could read mail without hurting my eyes, and so on...
But i admit there are many things that no other brand could bring to customers. That's why im not totally against Apple. I would like them to bring some new features, and why not to propose several iPhones, like you suggested for clever people, and the others like me 😉
It'd make me very happy believe me. Everybody would be satisfied
No im joking for many things in my messages, but not when i am talking about that thing that makes me sad.
I dont wanna make the same mistake than you and be not tolerant. Im not like that. I respect your opinion. You should do the same, and not consider im a stupid huy just because i would like a bigger screen (not a home cinema i mean, but a 5 inches size would be enough im sure... No question here to fight Samsung or other with a 6 inches iPhone 6 screen!! That is not what i meant and i understand your words about pocket size, handling a almost tablet size phone...)
Honestly you know what ? Im trying right now to sell my note 2 to buy another iPhone 5 this afternoon (but ssshhhut do not tell anyone) because even if the screen is just smaller that what id like, other features are just above every other phone, "not to mention iOs" you're right. Nothing compares to that OS...
So i can wait for the next iphone 5S (that will not bring big surprises im sure of that) and im sure ill buy it and will be happy with it..
But please keep that state of mind that makes forums what they are made for (at least in my area) : a place where all opinions can meet without violence and self confidence 😉 Your opinion about the iPhone size and maturity is very good (i share it on many points) but i would not say no to some improvements, and your idea to make several future iPhones is rather a genious idea, and im not joking 😉
I'm sad to see that.
Im aware of many truths. That size has advantages. Ive had all the iPhones till last weeks I sold my i5 because of trying an Note 2 at a friend's place. Huge experience for the "ranting kid" i am. I could read mail without hurting my eyes, and so on...
But i admit there are many things that no other brand could bring to customers. That's why im not totally against Apple. I would like them to bring some new features, and why not to propose several iPhones, like you suggested for clever people, and the others like me 😉
It'd make me very happy believe me. Everybody would be satisfied
No im joking for many things in my messages, but not when i am talking about that thing that makes me sad.
I dont wanna make the same mistake than you and be not tolerant. Im not like that. I respect your opinion. You should do the same, and not consider im a stupid huy just because i would like a bigger screen (not a home cinema i mean, but a 5 inches size would be enough im sure... No question here to fight Samsung or other with a 6 inches iPhone 6 screen!! That is not what i meant and i understand your words about pocket size, handling a almost tablet size phone...)
Honestly you know what ? Im trying right now to sell my note 2 to buy another iPhone 5 this afternoon (but ssshhhut do not tell anyone) because even if the screen is just smaller that what id like, other features are just above every other phone, "not to mention iOs" you're right. Nothing compares to that OS...
So i can wait for the next iphone 5S (that will not bring big surprises im sure of that) and im sure ill buy it and will be happy with it..
But please keep that state of mind that makes forums what they are made for (at least in my area) : a place where all opinions can meet without violence and self confidence 😉 Your opinion about the iPhone size and maturity is very good (i share it on many points) but i would not say no to some improvements, and your idea to make several future iPhones is rather a genious idea, and im not joking 😉
Next iPhone
I agree with the comment that Apple will not listen to us and just do what it wants. The arrogance is astounding. Apple will release the iPhone 5s with the same exact form factor as last years model. Thats why their press release and marketing program is going to say, "The iPhone 5s......its so last year".
I agree with the comment that Apple will not listen to us and just do what it wants. The arrogance is astounding. Apple will release the iPhone 5s with the same exact form factor as last years model. Thats why their press release and marketing program is going to say, "The iPhone 5s......its so last year".
Sorry MCRTO, dont understand this... Could you explain to a no native english speaker ? 😱
Jimmy James
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Yes, Apple. Listen to your users. Keep the screen size the same. Better yet reduce it back to 3.5".
"No im joking for many things in my messages, but not when i am talking about that thing that makes me sad."
A phone makes you sad? A phone? Really?
A phone makes you sad? A phone? Really?
Apple does listen. If they didn't, we wouldn't have had the notification center, multitasking, quick toggles in iOS, remarks about the use of linnen, 4 inch iPhone, 7 inch iPad. You just have to whine hard enough (and vote with your wallet). And jailbreak, so they can finally steal it. 🙂
Please throw every gimmicky feature out there in to the next iphone !! If users don't like that feature, they don't have to use it !!! They can just leave that stylus right in its liitle cubby holder !! It won't send mixed messages to consumers or anything !!! Also please attach a toaster to the iphone 6 !!! There was this one time last December where I really wanted a toaster handy and didnt have acess to one !!! You don't have to use the attached toaster if you don't want to !!! But attaching one would be so innovative simply because it hasn't been done before !!!
If you want to argue this point then cite some numbers. Do you have sales figures showing a decline in iPhone sales? Can you link this directly to screen size as the reason?
It won't change things for the users but it will definitely require significant engineering changes.
Apple does but in aggregate. It does not kowtow to specific feature requests from individual users or even groups that do not represent the majority. These are mass produced products and, as such, they have to cater to the masses. Additionally, there's the whole "a horse designed by committee is a donkey" thing that you have to consider. It's not just about adding a feature or two but considering the bigger picture and the intended direction of the product at hand. I can see Apple offering additional screen sizes but a stylus isn't something that I think they're likely to offer given their history.
There are always advantages and disadvantages every decision. You see it as only advantageous but that doesn't mean that everyone else does. It also doesn't mean that it's a "truth". It's just your opinion.
I'm not saying that the attitude is justified but your thread is identical to countless prior threads.
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///M Powah
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If you want a toaster, get a One X+. I ended up with burns in my hands, battery temp was at 70C
I bought a stylus and it works just fine on both the iPhone and iPad. Apple lets the add-on market do the stylus bit. My wife can't use our iPad without the stylus, and I use it a lot as well.
I want to keep the iPhone small enough that it will fit in my shirt pocket.
I want to keep the iPhone small enough that it will fit in my shirt pocket.
Stupid idea. At least keep the same would be acceptable, but reducing it... lol
5 inches would be a good compromise, and iPhone 6 will get to that size, you'll see
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Yeaaaahhh. Good idea cow... boy 😉
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Great joke actually... Love US sense of Humour 😉
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I understand that. And after using the Note 2 since last weekend, i am starting to like this small size. I wouldnt like to get a 6 inches iPhone 6 or 7 (but a 5 why not lol)
But i love that current small size after touching a note 2 that works so bad (crazy that Android is told to be one of the better iOS)
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lol.. That will be the first mitake of "His Majesty" Apple 😉
Our money still belongs to us, and we still have the right to chose who is gonna get it...
SR45
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Sorry kenclark, but this has been tried before in the recent past, and failed, as it will fail now. Apple will look at the big picture for itself, and not follow other manufactures. Many millions have been sold regardless of the fanatics that want something else. Apple will again sell millions of the iphone 5S without increasing its size to mirror Samsung and next year the fanatics that want a huge phone will rant again.