I'm confused about the purpose of the 30 pin connector now that they've released HDMI adapters. Why not just use mini Displayport to save real estate?
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And let me guess, the majority of those people that have used an iOS device dont know what flash is? REALLY?
If you're implying the lack of flash is such a huge handicap that it will be obvious to anyone using iOS, I think you're wrong.
I've done a LOT of surfing on my iPad, and flash simply isn't an issue. Hit a couple of sites that the video doesn't work on, but coming from the Mac I'm used to that whenever I try to access a video that uses Windows Media.
what if your laptop / pc doesnt have a mini display port? i guess they could release some kind of adapter with it but still that would further increase cost. not to mention what would happen to the millions if not billions of iAccessories that work with the 30pin dock connector.
The iPad runs fast, looks great, great battery life, etc.
I know all the specs, and I can look at them before purchasing. That's freedom to buy what I want. Forget the car analogies, they're just pointless.
I know it exists, I simply don't care. Kind of the same way I feel about flash.
Youtube works, that's good enough for me.
You people seem to forgot that size, weight, and ergonomics are actually worth something. Whether it's worth what Apple is charging is a matter of personal opinion.
And Apple might be closer to the Ferrari then you think... with the lower res display, it should be faster then the Xoom. You do realize that there is a processing price to pay for larger displays?
So you've proven one thing... you're closed minded and set in your ways.
I've used the Xoom. Its a pretty damn good device. I know what Apple is... they wrote me checks for 4 years... I continue to make a living supporting Apples in large corp infrastructures. Im not some dumb closed minded Microsoft fan. I am a guy who loves tech but also will call BS when I see it.
I agree but not all consumers do that. They are monkey-see-monkey-do.
Just don't have any need for windows media, nothing to gain by installing the codec, save the ability to watch videos that I get emailed from PC using friends. Really, how many times do you need to watch a monkey peeing in his own mouth?
I'm sure it is. And I'm sure there is a forum where Xoom users can gush over it. This isn't it.
You're not doing a good job of defending your argument that specs matter to the consumer...
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RAM directly affects the user experience, always has and always will. Your statements leads me to question your understanding of what RAM is.
All of that being said 512MB isn't all that bad. I'd go so far as to say it is more RAM than I've had on 90% of the PC hardware I've owned. In the context of iPad it more than doubles the amount of RAM available to the user app, that in turn means new app capability.
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RAM directly affects the user experience, always has and always will. Your statements leads me to question your understanding of what RAM is.
All of that being said 512MB isn't all that bad. I'd go so far as to say it is more RAM than I've had on 90% of the PC hardware I've owned. In the context of iPad it more than doubles the amount of RAM available to the user app, that in turn means new app capability.
People continue to buy digital cameras with over 3 megapixels yet only use them to share photos online or the occasional 4x6 print. A consumer doesn't (really) need a camera that shoots 18 megapixels. Yet year after year - they are told that bigger is better.
Most people don't need quad core computers with gigs upon gigs of memory when all they are doing is surfing the web and using word, pages, numbers - and those kinds of software solutions.
The retail world is filled with marketing messages aimed at creating a sense of "need" to the consumer regardless of their use case.
Specs (as in the actual specs) most of the time don't matter in that 90 percent of the people using devices can get the entry product and be MORE than fine for their use case.
Specs matter though - because consumers have been (mis)educated in thinking they need more "power" than they actually do. So they seek out the best specs. They ask their best buy or other big box store (or read reviews) to find out which products have the best/biggest/most specs and that does influence their decision
If you think otherwise - sorry - but you're naive.
Ohh, stop with this BS already! Are you arguing that iPhone 4 screen resolution spec does not matter (compared to iPhone 3 GS)? I do not think so. Apparently those specs that favor Apple do matter whereas those that favor competitors... not so much.
HUH? That's not what I'm saying at all....
Have you been reading the thread? The evolution of the "discussion" here about specs? Perhaps not.
My justification was that specs do matter to the consumer. Other people here were saying that all the specs the xoom have don't matter. That the iPad with less specs won't be seen as inferior no matter what. And I disagree. If a customer has no Apple bias - and is presented with two items - the xoom and the ipad - specs could be very influential if the salesperson runs down the specs (and depends on HOW they run down the specs, naturally)
The average consumer will hear 1 gig of memory vs 256 (or 512)
The average consumer will hear that one has a memory card slot to extend it's storage while the other does not
The average consumer will hear that one is LTE (4g for lack of better phrasing) compatible (or will be) and the other is not
I never said specs don't matter. My argument was that specs definitely matter. Regardless of whether the consumer NEEDS them.
But then the average consumer will hear that the iPad is made by Apple, has the familiar iOS and app ecosystem, and costs just $499. And 40 million iPads later, we can have this same argument about specs next year.
This. Match point. This part of the thread can be closed.
Love how some people keep on thinking, year after year, that Apple is doomed, and then after millions of the new gadget are sold and the company becomes one of the greatest cash holders in the world, some people still say "apple is going down"
Where did I say that people wouldn't buy the iPad or that the xoom would outsell the ipad. Or anything like that. I love (read as sarcasm) how people don't know how to read a thread and comprehend what someone writes but instead grandstands off point. My responses above were a direct result to the comment that the average consumer doesn't care about specs. That statement is false. That doesn't mean consumers only buy on spec. But to say specs don't matter is false. And ignorant.
Wow. How insightful. Let the adults have a conversation. Clearly you had nothing to add of value as indicated by you desire to turn this into a "game" that would have a winner and/loser
I never said apple is going down. Or doomed. I love that some people insist that there has to be a winner in a discussion. And even more that just because they don't want to discuss items anymore or they think they have "won" that no one else should comment
Stop being paranoid (a lot of you). Not everyone that doesn't praise Apple is saying they are doomed. Or riddled with failure. Or is a hater. The polarity some of you exhibit is pathetic
Who cares about the bickering back and forth about the iPad I wanted to see some free MobileMe and iOS 5!!!
I wanted to see some free MobileMe and iOS 5!!!Oh my God. The whole spec thing is so stupid. Both the iPad and Xoom are excellent devices. They both do a fantastic job for what they are designed to do. This pissing contest is making it no fun anymore to come to forums like this. Its the same way on Android forums.
Apple offers a complete one stop shop....the ecosystem they have created is better than any other company has ever offered. That is their biggest advantage. Get over it.
And for my 2nd rant. What is the big deal with the rear camera. How many people will really use it as a camera for taking pictures of things more than a couple of times. Really. Its more useful for things like barcode scanning and document scanning. There is no way in hell I am going to go around and hold up a 10" table to take pictures of my kids. Get real people. The front camera has a very good purpose, but get over the rear camera thing. Apple gets it. The others brag because they need something to try and compete with the current leader.
I get the feeling these forums are filled with teenage fanboys with no lives.
Apple offers a complete one stop shop....the ecosystem they have created is better than any other company has ever offered. That is their biggest advantage. Get over it.
And for my 2nd rant. What is the big deal with the rear camera. How many people will really use it as a camera for taking pictures of things more than a couple of times. Really. Its more useful for things like barcode scanning and document scanning. There is no way in hell I am going to go around and hold up a 10" table to take pictures of my kids. Get real people. The front camera has a very good purpose, but get over the rear camera thing. Apple gets it. The others brag because they need something to try and compete with the current leader.
I get the feeling these forums are filled with teenage fanboys with no lives.
so i talked to one of those apple chat people from the apple website and asked about when it would ship on march 11. they said it comes from one of the apple fulfillment centers, which i gather is a big apple warehouse. anyone know how many of these apple has in the U.S.? i wonder if there is one near my area (illinois/chicago)