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Lots of readers here said they'd buy a new iPad at $329 with Pencil support. Getting the A10 (which mops the floor with every single Android tablet on the planet) is an added bonus.

Both my daughters have iPad Pros. I don't consider them overpriced at all.

It doesn’t matter if A10 mops floor with every single Android tablet. Android tablet is dead... You aren’t compare with Android Tablet.

If this iPad is designed for educational purposes, then this is pretty much out of questions. School with limited budget will look elsewhere.

Otherwise, this iPad is just an annual update anyway... It just happen to have pencil support.

I have both iPad Pros. Still consider them overpriced. Why? If you factor in the price of Apple Smart Keyboard, Pencil, you are getting to laptop price. If Windows laptop do much more than iPad could ever do, then how this is not overpriced?
 
This is frustrating. As a teacher in a one-to-one Chromebook school, I am desperate for someone to come in and compete with Google. The Chromebooks in most schools are not good devices and are not particularly good at anything more than word processing and searching the internet. Apple could really pose a challenge if they would put together an iOS device with Pencil and attached keyboard that was reasonably priced. All of the classroom management stuff they are showing looks far more advanced than what Google offers for teachers.

They just posed a challenge. That’s what’s going on right here. They effectively just cut the cost of THE premium solution by 50%.
 
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With this solid performing, yet well-priced cheaper iPad using the same-old iPad design we've known for years, I have to wonder if at WWDC we'll get that iPad X with all the new technology such as an edge to edge display with Face ID. Just as long as they keep the top and bottom bezel really thin and don't do a notch. The notch doesn't bother me much on the iPhone X but on an iPad it would be really annoying since many people use their iPads in different orientations all day, unlike the iPhone which is mostly used in landscape for video only where it's less noticeable unless you zoom in.

Doubt it!
 
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Apple used to have the education market decades ago because schools bought into the brand and thought it just worked better. Cheap Windows whiteboxes pushed them out and now even cheaper and easier to manage ChromeOS devices locked it down. This won't make a dent outside of a few initial curious purchases from admins trying to push Apple devices and then going to back to the easier and more seamless ChromeOS suite.
 
That's not exactly how the funding works. Schools could purchase these if they wanted to. The problem is that it is difficult to push an iPad without a keyboard at this price versus the $200 Lenovo Chromebook that integrates with the Google Apps that many (most?) have switched to. Apple's classroom tools look lightyears ahead of Google's, but the fact that Google has crippled their apps on tablets (especially iOS) make it a tough sell in the end.

Notice that I added “to make a difference”. Most schools/districts have their budget precisely set up at the beginning of the FY. It would take enormous efforts - if that’s even possible - to redirect enough money to buy iPads for every class. Being a government entity you can’t simply take money from the GF and spend it where you want.
 
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This is frustrating. As a teacher in a one-to-one Chromebook school, I am desperate for someone to come in and compete with Google. The Chromebooks in most schools are not good devices and are not particularly good at anything more than word processing and searching the internet. Apple could really pose a challenge if they would put together an iOS device with Pencil and attached keyboard that was reasonably priced. All of the classroom management stuff they are showing looks far more advanced than what Google offers for teachers.

Google made a move yesterday with a tablet with pencil support out the box. They only need to work on software. They are in a much better spot than Apple in reference to the classroom. Apple has a long way to go.
 
And Apple wonders why it lost the classroom years ago and has to hold these desperation events where they announce products that put them even further behind in the classroom. El oh el
 
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You're a power in a huge market. Get other educators united and demand better from your vendors! Make Apple and Google (and others) work on a platform that YOU want.

I wish that were true. Right now, Google is far to successful in their plan to get everyone using Google to deviate from their path. There are also a ton of 3rd parties make a ton of money off of classroom management systems for Chromebooks.

Then there is the flip side of this whole thing. Is all of this technology actually a good thing in the classroom in the first place? This is something I have grappled with the last couple of years as I see teachers forcing tech where it does not really belong.
 
they must have changed the screen... As far as i know, Apple Penci is designed to work with iPad Pro’s screen. If Apple didn’t change the screen, does that means Apple Pencicl will work with the 2017 iPad, because screen didn’t change at all?

Screen and pencil sensors are two separate layers. They can add the pencil sensor layer and keep the same screen.
 
I have both iPad Pros. Still consider them overpriced. Why? If you factor in the price of Apple Smart Keyboard, Pencil, you are getting to laptop price. If Windows laptop do much more than iPad could ever do, then how this is not overpriced?

If you want a laptop form factor, there is the MacBook or MacBook Pro without Touch Bar for a similar price to a 12.9" iPad Pro with the Smart Keyboard and 256GB storage.
 
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I’d argue they have a chance in places that actually fund education.

Suppose a school district with 50, 000 students. Let’s say 1 iPad for 10 students, that’s 5,000 devices. At $100 more than the alternative that would be $500,000. That’s the equivalent of hiring 10 more teachers at $50,000/yr. I’d rather spend on teachers than on devices.
 
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You're a power in a huge market. Get other educators united and demand better from your vendors! Make Apple and Google (and others) work on a platform that YOU want.

There you go. Have a March! That will get it going. Not.

Districts are bleeding money. Teachers aren't making a fair wage. Administrators are saying, "Do you want Chromebooks and your current wage or apple products, a 30% reduction in work force and pay cuts for those remaining."
 
Education is still the customer, and by creating a consortium of some sort, teaching organizations can yield that power.

It works with open web standards, it works with open application containerization services.

It will work for education.

As the husband of a teacher, I wish it were that easy.
However, I agree that they can and should make their voice heard. It might not lead to better devices but it might lead to better education in general.
 
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$329 for a new iPad with Pencil support and an A10 processor?

Forget the education market - these things are going to sell like crazy.

Why? It's only a modest spec bump at the same price as the current iPad. Nothing to get too excited about.
 
Notice that I added “to make a difference”. Most schools/districts have their budget precisely set up at the beginning of the FY. It would take enormous efforts - if that’s even possible - to redirect enough money to buy iPads for every class. Being a government entity you can’t simply take money from the GF and spend it where you want.

Budgets are being made now. Most will be approved by their boards at a late June meeting (many school boards meet twice in June for this purpose). In California, where I am, how money is spent is decided by the board, community, administration, teachers, and students, by law. So it is possible that if the stakeholders believe technology is a need, that a district can put money into iPads like this. However, like I said before it is a tough sell against Chromebooks that are cheap and IT friendly, if not stellar in the classroom itself.
 
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