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Did you sit through it or review it after? Sitting through it was watching paint dry. Watching it afterward, that might have been a different experience.

I kept wishing I could just forward certain parts of the keynote.

Plus, I missed half of it because I did not factor in daylight saving when calculating the start time of the keynote in my time zone.
Lucky me! I was only half as bored as the people who watched it all.
 
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Sure, sure. That's a good thing for Samsung, because "Timmy's" phones are profitable and Samsung's line-item has parentheses around it. And the comparison to Blackberry is just silly until you can show me competitor coming out with a smartphone category killer.

It's a good thing for Samsung and a potential disaster for Apple. Do you think Blackberry saw a competitor coming out with a category killer? Do you think once the iPhone was out they ignored it? By the time the iPhone-killer is out, it's too late. Apple cannot suddenly slash their margins and throw in every feature they can think of. Blackberry tried that and you saw how it worked for them. And this is very much a momentum thing. It took months for Blackberry to lose their "cool factor" and iPhone to take over. After that, Blackberry could have released something far better than Apple could dream of and it wouldn't sell because Blackberry was passe. Do you really think that can't happen to Apple?

Timmy has all his eggs in one basket, and that's a basket that caters to a very fickle fashion sensitive market. And he's burning all of Apple's other perfectly good baskets.

I also still have to scoff at your notion that less than a year since an update for MBP represents abandonment of a product line.

$300 Dell laptops have had Skylake for half a year. A $3000 top-end Mac laptop still does not. And might by June or July. That is a pathetic embaressment for Apple. A $1500 Dell XPS has the same sleek look and fell as a macbook pro, but the Dell is half the price, has much slimmer bezels, has much newer technology, will take off the shelf M.2 cards and other upgrades and is just a plain better machine in every way. And before you throw the OSX card down, I do prefer OSX but Timmy's been crippling it more and more to match the limitations of iOS.

The irony is, of course, that the more frequently a product is updated, the more incremental those updates will be. At some point the whining about lack of innovation will intersect and combine with the whining about planned obsolescence and "Timmy" et al will take their cash and go home, and leave everyone behind to wallow in the convoluted mess that is Android.

I don't recall seeing any complaints when the macbooks were updated twice a year and often got new generation intel CPUs before they were easily available on the PC market.

It's not just the year-long delay, which is completely unacceptable, but that they were given old stale hardware a year ago. Now the Macs represent obsolete hardware at twice the price of something much more modern from any PC company. By the time Skylake macs comes out, it will be old news and the industry will be looking at Kaby Lake and Cannon Lake.

Being a mac user now means living in the past and paying a premium for the privilege. But that's okay because Timmy says you shouldn't even be buying a mac, the 9.7" tablet is all the average user needs. Despite the fact it's a dying market that really serves little purpose for most people.
 
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Timmy has all his eggs in one basket, and that's a basket that caters to a very fickle fashion sensitive market. And he's burning all of Apple's other perfectly good baskets.

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$300 Dell laptops have had Skylake for half a year. A $3000 top-end Mac laptop still does not. ...

...Now the Macs represent obsolete hardware at twice the price of something much more modern from any PC company. By the time Skylake macs comes out, it will be old news and the industry will be looking at Kaby Lake and Cannon Lake.

Being a mac user now means living in the past and paying a premium for the privilege. But that's okay because Timmy says you shouldn't even be buying a mac, the 9.7" tablet is all the average user needs. Despite the fact it's a dying market that really serves little purpose for most people.

You talk about dying markets, but completely ignore the fact that 2015 was notably the worst year for the PC market, with significant sales declines for all but one manufacturer. You talk about macs being uncompetitive and archaic, but ignore the fact that they were the one personal computer product that bucked the trend in 2015, posting an increase in product shipments while everyone else was in decline.

Anyone who buys a $300 Dell just to get a Skylake processor is still just getting a $300 Dell (dude, you're getting a Dell!), and it runs Windows. I'm guessing you are really a 'PC person' already, because you're all worked up about which computers have what processor, etc. PC enthusiasts make purchasing decisions that way, searching for whoever has cobbled together the latest bells and whistles, component-by-component. Those people have never been Apple's target customer.

Apple is quite often not the first to market with a given component, instead opting to more thoroughly and intentionally bring together updates in hardware and software to create a more stable and less confusing set of options for its customers. This infuriates 'PC people,' (and 'Android people'), but seems to have created a solid and growing satisfied customer base for Apple. Macs have always been more expensive than the competition, and PC people can't wrap their heads around that fact: "but, but, it doesn't even have the new gonkulator 5000, and yet it costs more!" Meanwhile Apple customers look at it and say, "does this computer do what I want intuitively and with stability?" The answer being "yes," they gladly pay the premium and buy it, and then use it happily for years without worrying about which gonkulator is under the hood. The result is that someone who bought a 2010 MacBook pro is still happily and smoothy running it on El Capitan, while the person who bought a PC at the same time with all the latest stuff under the hood is probably limping along on a five-and-a-half year-old PC, running Vista or Windows 7, and hobbled by regular crashes and mysterious bloatware in the background slowing everything down to a crawl. The truth is, PC customers are far more likely to be "living in the past" with a computing scenario just like that.

So by all means, go ahead and buy your $300 Skylake Dell and see how that works out for you in the long run. Meanwhile, Apple will continue to update Macs and OSX in an intentional way, and mysteriously, their customers will keep coming back, because their competition is not getting stronger in any particular way.

Of course iPhone is Apple's biggest product line, but it's not because they're ignoring macs or anything else. It's because they're producing the only significantly profitable smartphone on the market.
 
It has been nearly a year? Oh my god! Sell your stock, pack your bags and run for the hills!

Seriously, you're complaining about that, and when they do issue the upgrade (could be in June or July, an eternity of months away), somebody else will be on here pissed that they just spent a couple thousand dollars on a MacBook and it's already out-of-date.

As for the five-year-old PCs, a lot of people slogging along running XP on one of those would find an iPad Pro refreshingly fast and convenient. Certainly not everyone, but some people. Microsoft and other windows device manufacturers have certainly been shooting at macs with advertising for their tablets, so it seems like fair game to do a little poaching in the other direction. Cook isn't killing everything that makes Apple Apple, he's continuing a very long tradition of goading the competition. There's nothing out-to-lunch about that.

Yes, That is a worthy complaint... consider the MP that's been 850 days since replaced...

When replacing 1 or many computers in a business, they want them to last. Buying a product that is already years old has repercussions. you're overlooking the replacement time at the end of the "investment"

Machines should last 3 years Minimum. but buying an APPLE product, in 3 years, your 2 year old machine will actually be 5 years old... meaning apple has already moved on, and you'll likely be SCREWED.


If they don't replace update their Mac line soon... but more importantly, MORE OFTEN, they will not have a MAC community at all. They need business to keep the numbers of OSX user high, otherwise the price / the support for home owners will dry up, and then there will be no APPLE ecosystem... just So called Pro Tablets and phones.
 
If they don't replace update their Mac line soon... but more importantly, MORE OFTEN, they will not have a MAC community at all. They need business to keep the numbers of OSX user high, otherwise the price / the support for home owners will dry up, and then there will be no APPLE ecosystem... just So called Pro Tablets and phones.
They will have community, it just doesn't include any pro or power users. There will be millions of people, who's need for power for their "normal" tasks is "what does GPU mean" and they pay more for good looking luxury.

After switching phone for a decade every other year and being forced to use windows computers at work, which have been getting slower after a year of usage because the os slows down, it feels pretty natural that you have to buy a new mac, because you need more ram and storage and those can't be upgraded.

You know, it's not Apple's fault that they didn't put 2GB of ram to ipadAir1, which would have costed over one dollar more, because "Split View" just didn't exist at the time. You can't prepare for something before it happens, can you?

Yep, forgot the sarcasm tags from that. But the only light I have seen for a long time for osX is that somebody buys osX from Apple and starts to make macs all they could be. Apple will never do that again. Why would they, iOS is just simply better business.
 
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