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Apple has gone down the toliet since Jobs passed away. There was once such innovation and focus on the Mac lines which are now neglected. The entire iOS line is terrible and iOS itself has become bloatedware that hardly works well. I'm about to jump ship to Android and make my next computer purchase a PC. I'm sure within the next few years Apple will lose its cool appeal and not have its computer backbone to fallback on.
 
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I knew it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PRIVACY

You go Timmy !!

Timmy Akbar.

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I can honestly say (for me) this was the most satisfying Apple event in at least a couple of years. The second best was the one with the genuine surprise Retina Macbook reveal.

They released a high end iPhone that doesn't look like a turd at a good price. (5 stars)

They released an iPad that should have been this Wacom-killer 5 years ago. (5 stars)

They brought the watch closer to the price it should have launched at. (3 stars)
 
Apple are dazed and confused (not to mention arrogant) to have a chuckle at those millions of PC users - to think an Ipad can completely replace a business desktop (or even laptop) PC, beyond media consumption and a few basic tasks is ridiculous.
And I love my iphone but my business would be dead within a month using iOS for serious work (and I work in a creative industry)

Oh yes, and my PC laptop is nearly 3 years old (not quite the 5 they mention), but *still* has a spec which is unavailable in any MBP, at any price. (and even when new it cost less than 1000)
Sure is ugly though ;/
 
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Count me in. I will be ordering a new 9.7" iPad Pro on Thursday along with the pencil & keyboard. I really like the upgraded features like Tru-Tone display, upgraded speakers and the camera enhancements.
 
I've definitely got too much time on my hands today.
But I've noticed these robotic posts on here quite a lot recently.

"I really like the upgraded features like Tru-Tone display, upgraded speakers and the camera enhancements."

I do hope the iPad continues to grow and improve, I even have one at home to play around with. But that presentation yesterday got me riled... so incredibly arrogant and out of touch with reality in a few important ways.
 
I sadly feel with Steve's passing, the pipeline for innovation has run thin here. I ditched iOS a year ago and don't miss it. The Mac platform is okay, but is an increasing lack of focus, and the iOS products don't compel me to run to the damn store.

What's especially sad is that Apple still has the brain trust in place to keep the magic alive. They have the cash reserves to do any kind of R&D. There is no reason Apple couldn't have amazing products that would leave everyone else in the dust.

But they have an idiot at the helm who only seems to care about maximizing short term profits and margins with no concern about the future. Apple is the most valuable brand in the world, the name alone is worth hundred of billions of dollars. And little Timmy just wants to convert that brand value into a pile of cash. When he's done, he'll have returned the hundreds of billions to shareholders in cash and the Apple name will be nothing but a sad joke that means last decade's tech at outrageous prices.

It's just frustrating to see it happen to Apple when it's so unnecessary. Timmy is destroying everything that makes Apple great, but he's making a lot of short term cash in the process so people call him a great CEO.
 
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Who from Apple told, when cylinder was introduced, that they will pay more attention to mp's update pace..?

If we were to look at the history of MP updates they were roughly every year or so.

But for scoffs at things "5 year old PCs" maybe they need to take a better look at their own offerings before being so smug.

Changing to Intel was supposed to mean more reliable and frequent updates than having to deal with PPC hurdles.

What's holding them back from simple Chip replacements? It's not rocket science? people do this in the PCs on the weekend when they are board.
 
What's especially sad is that Apple still has the brain trust in place to keep the magic alive. They have the cash reserves to do any kind of R&D. There is no reason Apple couldn't have amazing products that would leave everyone else in the dust.

But they have an idiot at the helm who only seems to care about maximizing short term profits and margins with no concern about the future. Apple is the most valuable brand in the world, the name alone is worth hundred of billions of dollars. And little Timmy just wants to convert that brand value into a pile of cash. When he's done, he'll have returned the hundreds of billions to shareholders in cash and the Apple name will be nothing but a sad joke that means last decade's tech at outrageous prices.

It's just frustrating to see it happen to Apple when it's so unnecessary. Timmy is destroying everything that makes Apple great, but he's making a lot of short term cash in the process so people call him a great CEO.

As I noted up-thread, even Jobs wasn't introducing game-changing new product lines and innovations at every one of these presentations. The vast majority of these things are always about tweaks, refinements and incremental improvements. You can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times Jobs went onstage and presented something that represented a huge innovation. Even when he did, that fact often wasn't recognized at the time, at least not by peanut galleries like this. On the other hand, he was particularly talented at getting people excited about the incremental updates. He was an unparalleled salesman.

Tim Cook is absolutely different that Steve Jobs, but he's the person Jobs hand-picked as his successor. Cook's worst enemy here is the ghost of the rose-colored memory of Steve Jobs. The sort of refinements announced yesterday are par for the course under both (the real) Jobs and Cook. They upgrade, refine, and make adjustments to meet the competition head-on in the short term, yes, but they're also playing the long game to get ready for whatever's coming out of the pipeline in the future. They've always been tight-lipped about what they're doing for the long game, and just because you didn't get to hear much about that yesterday doesn't mean it isn't being played.

One long game under Cook that was briefly referenced yesterday is encryption and device security. While other devices are considerably more vulnerable, Cook has been positioning iOS and iPhones as the place to go to keep your data secure. So if there was any subdued tone to Cook's presentation, you should remember that he is actually a human being, and while preparing for this, he was also preparing for the (now cancelled/postponed) hearing that was scheduled for today. At that hearing, the FBI was going to seek to require Apple to take actions that, if carried out, would significantly undermine that long game of positioning the iPhone as the most secure handheld device. If you were in Cook's shoes, you'd probably have had to work hard to seem upbeat at just that moment, too.
 
Cook's worst enemy here is the ghost of the rose-colored memory of Steve Jobs. The sort of refinements announced yesterday are par for the course under both (the real) Jobs and Cook. They upgrade, refine, and make adjustments to meet the competition head-on in the short term, yes, but they're also playing the long game to get ready for whatever's coming out of the pipeline in the future.

Oh, please. They haven't updated their flagship mac (the MBP) in nearly a year, despite Skylake having been out for half a year. Apple is making a ton of quick cash on iPhone, but when they can't even keep any Macs up to date, the company is falling apart. Long term, where is Apple if they abandon the mac?

And yet, yesterday, Timmy is bragging that old PCs are ripe to be replaced with 9.7" iPads. If he is really that out to lunch, it is no wonder he is killing everything that makes Apple Apple.
 
This doesn't look good. Apple keynotes: where presenters are less excited than anyone else. Seriously I think Apple is doing almost the same as before (with a few important differences) in terms of products, however the way to introduce them was the difference with Steve Jobs, you could feel he was truly excited about the product at a personal level, Keynotes were the stage to show case a piece or art that you want it for any reason. That should be Apple, it doesn't matter who is on stage they should transmit the same excitement to customers, they don't do that anymore, Apple keynotes became apathetic, even their "joyfull" phrases on every invitation. I mean... after all this time they are releasing existing technology with marginal features in different sizes and colors, I justified this by saying yeah they are just polishing their products... again. Even design is not as good as before, that camera bump, the shrinked iPhone 1 design called Apple Watch, or the iPhone6. They are not good because people complain about them a lot, complains that didn't exist before or was the iPhones 6 design praised like the design of iPhone 4?. In terms of software, I'm tired of waiting for an OS that is as fast as Snow Leopard or a version of iOS that won't make my iPhone slower , I don't think that new features and performance are two different things. I would use Windows instead, but.. well.. Windows.
 
The Surface shows up with a pencil. Then the iPad Pro shows up with a pencil. Samsung giant phones show up, then iPhone 6 shows up.

Cook seems to have Apple just chasing everyone else. I'm not saying Jobs' Apple was the most innovative, but they had a strategy. They did what they wanted to do, then (arguably) blew smoke up our rears to convince us we wanted it that way, lol.

Cook's Apple just seems to do what others are doing. It's not innovative. It's not daring. It's not fun. And it's not thinking different.
 
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Oh, please. They haven't updated their flagship mac (the MBP) in nearly a year, despite Skylake having been out for half a year. Apple is making a ton of quick cash on iPhone, but when they can't even keep any Macs up to date, the company is falling apart. Long term, where is Apple if they abandon the mac?

And yet, yesterday, Timmy is bragging that old PCs are ripe to be replaced with 9.7" iPads. If he is really that out to lunch, it is no wonder he is killing everything that makes Apple Apple.

It has been nearly a year? Oh my god! Sell your stock, pack your bags and run for the hills!

Seriously, you're complaining about that, and when they do issue the upgrade (could be in June or July, an eternity of months away), somebody else will be on here pissed that they just spent a couple thousand dollars on a MacBook and it's already out-of-date.

As for the five-year-old PCs, a lot of people slogging along running XP on one of those would find an iPad Pro refreshingly fast and convenient. Certainly not everyone, but some people. Microsoft and other windows device manufacturers have certainly been shooting at macs with advertising for their tablets, so it seems like fair game to do a little poaching in the other direction. Cook isn't killing everything that makes Apple Apple, he's continuing a very long tradition of goading the competition. There's nothing out-to-lunch about that.
 
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Oh, please. They haven't updated their flagship mac (the MBP) in nearly a year, despite Skylake having been out for half a year. Apple is making a ton of quick cash on iPhone, but when they can't even keep any Macs up to date, the company is falling apart. Long term, where is Apple if they abandon the mac?

And yet, yesterday, Timmy is bragging that old PCs are ripe to be replaced with 9.7" iPads. If he is really that out to lunch, it is no wonder he is killing everything that makes Apple Apple.

Tim is a major part of the problem along with others especially Cue. The longer he stays there, the worse it's going to get.

I kind of wish the FBI would swoop in a surprise raid and slap cuffs on him to get the **** rid of him.
 
As for the five-year-old PCs, a lot of people slogging along running XP on one of those would find an iPad Pro refreshingly fast and convenient. Certainly not everyone, but some people.

I'm just wondering what people will be happy replacing a nice large desktop with a mouse, full sized keyboard, and big screen with a dinky little 9.7" touch screen.

My in-laws have a windows XP machine from 2005 as their main computer, if someone offered them a straight trade for this iPad pro, they'd turn it down (or take the trade and sell the iPad). It simply will not do the job.

If anybody could have replaced their old computer with an iPad, what is so special about this new iPad that makes it possible, but an iPad Air 2, or iPad 4 couldn't do the job.


Microsoft and other windows device manufacturers have certainly been shooting at macs with advertising for their tablets, so it seems like fair game to do a little poaching in the other direction. Cook isn't killing everything that makes Apple Apple, he's continuing a very long tradition of goading the competition. There's nothing out-to-lunch about that.

He's pushing a dying market (tablets) and neglecting macs (the heart of Apple). He makes fun of people who want to use a computer instead of a tablet. It doesn't get more out to lunch than that. Why do I want a tablet if I have a 5.5" phone and 13" laptop? The only reason he gets away with it is iPhone sales are so high. But ask Blackberry if that's a good business strategy. Phones and tables are a line item on Samsung's balance sheet. They basically are Timmy's Apple.
 
They released a couple of very nice products, the phone and the iPad Pro. I'll definitely get the phone and very likely the iPad.

What's more important to me is that they communicated that they are going to fight the Privacy fight in a very serious way.

They spent a lot of time on CSR in order to establish themselves as socially responsible company, being the leaders in using clean energy and recycling (as Tim said, "I hope more will follow us in this") as well as supporting good health. This will be essential for establishing credibility and gaining public support further down the road in the Privacy fight against the DOJ criminal racket.

What they did was actually brilliant.


They are doing this so that they can continue to support you (the pimple clad techie crack pot junkie) with iGadgets for years ahead. I do understand you want your fix NOW, that is after all the mentality of the crack junkie.

However Apple's leadership are thinking and acting strategically, something you will never fathom and never be able to do yourself.

Comparing :apple: to terrorists because of this is just cute and can be excused if done by a juvenile, if done by a grown up it's rather sad and reveals an intellectual capacity similar to that of a goat.
 
Phones and tables are a line item on Samsung's balance sheet. They basically are Timmy's Apple.

Sure, sure. That's a good thing for Samsung, because "Timmy's" phones are profitable and Samsung's line-item has parentheses around it. And the comparison to Blackberry is just silly until you can show me competitor coming out with a smartphone category killer. I also still have to scoff at your notion that less than a year since an update for MBP represents abandonment of a product line.

The irony is, of course, that the more frequently a product is updated, the more incremental those updates will be. At some point the whining about lack of innovation will intersect and combine with the whining about planned obsolescence and "Timmy" et al will take their cash and go home, and leave everyone behind to wallow in the convoluted mess that is Android.
 
They spent a lot of time on CSR in order to establish themselves as socially responsible company, being the leaders in using clean energy and recycling (as Tim said, "I hope more will follow us in this") as well as supporting good health.
I see you drank the kool aid.
 
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