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Live Coverage of Apple's March 2015 'Spring Forward' Event
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I'd love to meet all these consumers people constantly claim don't care about stuff that isn't immediately being offered in a current Apple product.
Though to be fair, there's been surprisingly little of that in this thread.
By buying the adaptor that has already been linked to a couple of times in this thread. Whether there will be 3rd party adapters that will work with this and whether this is propriety in some way, or not, is an unknown.
Those consumers don't exist. It's a good way to push the "apple users are sheep"narrative though. Ask them for an example and they get defensive and run.
I thought the new MacBook looked pretty cool, until I saw how close together all the keys are and that it only has one USB port for everything including charging! They can't be serious?!
And lol @ Apple Watch.
Very disappointing overall.
And lol @ Apple Watch.
Very disappointing overall.
The MB has a standard size keyboard and the keys are oversized so it shouldn't be a problem.
Yes. It will sell a bit in the 1st quarter it is out to all the folks who want something new. After that, we will see the cliff the sales fall off of.
Biggest reason they'd need to upgrade the CPU = battery benefits. Which is pretty critical on a smartwatch
You're right - my mistake.
No - you're just taking a huge leap with your logic. I merely stated a fact - that I was "shunned" for suggesting a 1st gen Apple device have functionality it didn't. And then later, when introduced, there were a lot of people that upgraded for exactly that reason. At no time did I suggest they were the same people. Do I feel a little vindicated that the 2nd gen included a camera and it was well received. Of course I do.
Yes, that's the point of the standard. There are separate lanes that can either be paired for lots of bandwidth (say to drive a 4k display) or used separately. There is an 'alternate' channel that is always reserved strictly for data transfer.
You sure about that ???? The USB-c spec calls for a 10Gbps transfer rate.
The Macbook specs on's site say 5.1 Gbps.......
Given that actual 3.1 devices are only just showing up in a few motherboards, this could be a practicality where the full 10gbps is not yet ready for these kind of devices. I'd suspect that they are defaulting to the 3.0 standard in the type-c plug. Falling back to a lower data rate shouldn't have any effect on compatibility. It just won't be as future-proof as later iterations.
I wish I could use the watch on a run without my iPhone strapped to my arm or in my shorts utilizing GPS. I noticed Turlington had to have the 6+ strapped on her Africa run.
TV... 5/10. I wanted something new, but the price of $69 will have me getting a new one today for downstairs.Research Kit: 10/10. I'm a Type 1 diabetic, and being a beta tester for new ways of doing things has me excited.
New Macbook: 8/10. Mrs. thequick will be getting one in the near future
Watch: 6/10. I was excited, and looking forward to this, and I'm back to the 'ummm' stage. I want to like it, and I'm looking at the $399 version, but I want the $600 one, but $600 for replaceable technology in two years has me a little skittish. The reason why is that I max out my iPhone, as a matter of course, and that runs $600, and that's a biannual event, and adding another $600 to that tab is a bit much. The main problem is that I'm not liking the Sport Bands, and if it's a one time purchase for a nicer band, and I can move on to the next body without buying a new band, but I know this: I've replaced more watch bands than watch bodies in my 46 years, to the tune of about 3:1, and those 1 bodies have been due to watch preference.
Not a $10K watch... I said a $10K Apple Watch. (A fashion status symbol that will get drawered in a year b/c it will be superseded by a new "it" fashion bauble or style of Apple Watch. The people who will buy the gold Apple Watch have plenty of money to throw away. Not nec. true of someone who just has a single $10K watch they probably got as gift.)
That's because you use the screen...
(I'm here all week, try the veal, and don't forget to tip your waitstaff...)
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Again, the question was not purely about data lanes. It was about how to get power to the Mac while sending data (HDMI video) to the TV from the same port AND whether that would involve some proprietary and pricy adapter, which is now highlighted here: https://www.macrumors.com/2015/03/09/usb-c-digital-av-multiport/
I fully understand that USB-3 is a standard and that USB-C stuff will connect with it (should much USB-C stuff show up- see the breadth of thunderbolt stuff after what- 3+ years now?).
Well, so do I.
I still can appreciate some of the things they pulled off.
What? It's smaller than the 11", lighter, thinner, has the same battery capacity (9hour), a retina screen thats miles better than whats on Air now, and same amount of RAM and same amount of storage. It's not meant to compete with 13" air, its smaller than 11" for crying outloud!
The power adapter is 29W compared to 45W of 11" MBA, meaning it will be comparatively smaller.
It's a direct 11" upgrade, and some of the specs are down-right impressive, given the size, weight and screen.
It's not something that fits my bill *at all*, but they really pulled off a real ultra-book.
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Holy smokes, its even faster than I anticipated.
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=20805421#post20805421
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Just for fun, drag an 8 year old pre-chicklet keyboard or old powerbook out of the closet and see how much WORSE the typing experience and feel is in 2015 compared to 2007.
Hold on. Is you entire point here based on your fear that Apple's USB-C is propriety? It was designed by engineers from various companies, including many from Apple, so I highly doubt this is a propriety implementation.
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/03/09/just-what-is-the-usb-c-port-on-the-new-macbook-anyway
I haven't tried the the MB that was introduced today, so I can't comment on it's typing experience. In my decades of typing and keyboards, I find each one is a bit different, has a different feel, etc, so I adapt to whatever I'm using. I have certainly preferred some over others. I've used keyboards that's I couldn't stand yet others loved them. It's a subjective experience.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Last try. I 100% understand that USB-C is a standard (not proprietary).
However, the question asked was the ability to both power up the new Macbook while also feeding some data (via HDMI) to the guy's TV. What I saw today was 4 kinds of connectors in one hole, not 1 kind of standardized connector in one hole. That one hole perfectly fits a USB-C cable but is there more in there to allow something like charging and sending video work at the same time?
Somehow you keep reading me saying something like USB-C is not a standard or Apple has made it proprietary. I'm not saying either. What I am saying- which is speculation- is this: is the functionality beyond USB-C in that same hole implemented in a way that a special proprietary and/or expensive adapter would be needed? And that appears to be answered here: https://www.macrumors.com/2015/03/09/usb-c-digital-av-multiport/
So, again, I fully trust that USB-C is a STANDARD. I speculate there's more to that hole than implied and that that "more" requires a special adaptor in answer to the guys question (which appears confirmed at the link).
I wouldn't be so sure. The USB-C standard calls for 10Gbps of data transfer. The specs listed on Apple's site for this new Macbook say 5.1Gbps. USB-C may be a standard, but it appears (at least for now) that Apple are not using it, they are doing something else with that missing 4.9Gbps.
Thought it was clear it was a joke, like most other posts in this thread today by everyone during the presentation. Sorry!