Live Coverage of Apple's WWDC 2017 Keynote: iOS 11, macOS 10.13, Notebooks, iPad Pros, and More

[mrxak]

Okay, well I'm not going to read through all 100 pages, but I hope people are as excited for Apple pushing HEVC and HEIF the way they are. Adoption of HEVC (which HEIF is essentially a container for) has been slow, so it's good to see Apple leading the way on this technology at the hardware and software levels. HEVC will make video files smaller, which means higher quality video streaming over the internet with the same bandwidth, or more video content stored on your devices at the same quality. HEIF is a potential JPEG killer, again with significant storage savings, but it also very easily allows for things like Apple's Live Photos, GIF-like animated images, focus stacking, exposure stacking, and anything else you can think of. It has a lot of cool metadata that can go along with it, depth maps, transparency, and more. The downside is the necessary compute power for such a modern codec.

Hopefully, with however many billions of iOS devices out there now, this is the kick in the pants companies like Adobe, Microsoft, and Google need to start moving away from the now fairly ancient JPEG, and relatively older AVC video codec. My biggest concern is Google, which has been pushing their own codecs, like VP9. Not only does Google control a major browser, Chrome, but they also own YouTube, which has so far not supported HEVC at all. If Google wants to be annoying, they can be really annoying.

 

[citysnaps]

I thought this was really great keynote. I'm surprised people hated it so much.

It was an outstanding keynote. But it's just the way this forum is. Constantly hating on a company day in and day out gives some a tiny blip of power and attention that's otherwise lacking in their lives.

Others who have nothing interesting to contribute other than to harangue with watchbands, emoji, emojibar, Tim Cooke needs to be fired, stickers, courage, and on an on, in addition to the above, are likely still in high school and have yet to develop any conversational skills of consequence.

 

[magicschoolbus]

If that's all you're doing, an iMac from 8 years ago would suffice.

I'm using a 2013 iMac now at work and love it. Want a new one for the home office

 

[MH01]

It was an outstanding keynote. But it's just the way this forum is. Constantly hating on a company day in and day out gives some a tiny blip of power and attention that's otherwise lacking in their lives.

Others who have nothing interesting to contribute other than to harangue with watchbands, emoji, emojibar, Tim Cooke needs to be fired, stickers, courage, and on an on, in addition to the above, are likely still in high school and have yet to develop any conversational skills of consequence.

How can it be outstanding , when "software" saw some of the worst updates in recent history ? TvOS was a total joke.....NOTHING! To be honest macOS and iOS were very poor, while watchOS saw the crowd completely non interactive, I'd recommend you rewatch it again and see the crowd reaction that were present, it's was NOT outstanding, with so many quiet pauses where the presenters were expecting crowd reaction to hear crickets.

People who live in glass houses should not throw stones........

 

[rolsskk]

The Power Macintosh 9500 tower cost $5300 back in 1995, just sayin'

And that was also upgradable.

 

[44267547]

It was an outstanding keynote. But it's just the way this forum is. Constantly hating on a company day in and day out gives some a tiny blip of power and attention that's otherwise lacking in their lives.

Others who have nothing interesting to contribute other than to harangue with watchbands, emoji, emojibar, Tim Cooke needs to be fired, stickers, courage, and on an on, in addition to the above, are likely still in high school and have yet to develop any conversational skills of consequence.

This Keynote/conference was absolutely phenomenal. Apple was showing their true light and how they are expanding as a technology company beyond computers today. And they're releasing products that are for the better and are better than other competitors. Tim Cook was quoted earlier today regarding the new HomePod speaker:

"We didn't have the first MP3 player. We didn't have the first smartphone. We didn't have the first tablet," he said. "For us, it's not about being first. It's about being the best, and giving users an experience that delights them every time. We don't let that impatience result in shipping something that's just not great."

This Is a testament Apple is confident in their product line and they know they will deliver an exceptional product when the time is right. To me, this is the most intelligent technology company on the market and it shows through their success as a whole.

 

[UL2RA]

I'm using a 2013 iMac now at work and love it. Want a new one for the home office

I don't blame you. Even if you don't need it, shiny new toys are fun.

 

[citysnaps]

How can it be outstanding , when "software" saw some of the worst updates in recent history ? TvOS was a total joke.....NOTHING! To be honest macOS and iOS were very poor, while watchOS saw the crowd completely non interactive, I'd recommend you rewatch it again and see the crowd reaction that were present, it's was NOT outstanding, with so many quiet pauses where the presenters were expecting crowd reaction to hear crickets.

People who live in glass houses should not throw stones........

The enormity and breadth of the of the keynote spoke volumes. Apple nailed it. Still, there were many who couldn't help themselves who felt compelled to snipe at the tiniest things as if it were a competitive sport and race to the bottom as the keynote moved along. Those people have a history of childish behavior and it was certainly well-documented in yesterday's comments. Carry on...

 

[MH01]

The enormity and breadth of the of the keynote spoke volumes. Apple nailed it. Still, there were many who couldn't help themselves who felt compelled to snipe at the tiniest things as if it were a competitive sport and race to the bottom as the keynote moved along. Those people have a history of childish behavior and it was certainly well-documented in yesterday's comments. Carry on...

For me this was the Best Keynote. Not cause I love all things apple, frankly it was eGPU. This is a game changer for me. The rest of the keynote was quite weak to be honest. And talking to the IOS developers at work they were also very unimpressed by the OS updates.

The new App Store......eeek. In my opinion.

Though, who cares, my 2013 Mac Pro is about to come alive again but to eGPU support

 

[PhillyGuy72]

I wish they spent more time on the $29 Pencil Holder.
Reading the description in my head using Jony Ive's voice. It "Protects - while making a graceful statement."

No.

This $5 holder can work also - and it's ceramic!

 

[raccoontail]

I'm using a 2013 iMac now at work and love it. Want a new one for the home office

I'd be curious to know how much longer Apple user's replacement cycles have gotten. Despite all the whining about lack of upgradability, the computers often have a longer useful life than a refrigerator or car. I have a 24" iMac from 2007 upgraded with SSD at home that is still useful for browsing, scanning, music hub, family photos, bill paying, etc. In late 2013 I bought a maxed out macbook pro for work and there was absolutely no reason to consider an upgrade until the kaby lake bump.

 

[magicschoolbus]

I'd be curious to know how much longer Apple user's replacement cycles have gotten. Despite all the whining about lack of upgradability, the computers often have a longer useful life than a refrigerator or car. I have a 24" iMac from 2007 upgraded with SSD at home that is still useful for browsing, scanning, music hub, family photos, bill paying, etc. In late 2013 I bought a maxed out macbook pro for work and there was absolutely no reason to consider an upgrade until the kaby lake bump.

I agree. The iMac I use is actually owned by my work, and I use a 2012 MBP i7 (my personal computer) and I upgraded it to a Samsung Evo SSD 1TB. I can still put 16gigs of ram in it.

I don't really need a new computer, but I gotta say, I love using the iMac. The one at work is owned by the company, and it would be nice to have an actual desktop in the home office... which is why I said I wanted one. Honestly I'm sure I could find a good deal on the exact one I have now at work, but that one does not have a SSD in it, and I need a fast drive. 5400RPM drives are terrible; also the new screens on these iMacs look fantastic.

 

[harriska2]

We still use a 2009 mac mini with eye tv for our dvr (upgraded memory, ssd) and a 2010 24" imac with upgraded ssd and memory. We actually downgraded from a 27" to the 24" and gave the 27" to the elderly parents who use the dickens out of it. Color me impressed. I still have my old 2011 i5 (2nd gen) pc tower running with upgraded memory, ssd, and 40" 4k monitor. Works well for me. I agree that stuff is lasting pretty long. The iPads on the otherhand, we do upgrade them every 2-3 years when there is a big enough bump in hardware to justify.