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Live Photos Called 'Best New Feature,' Composed of Separate JPG and MOV Files

iceperson said:
So when you look at this photo you believe the water is just suspended there like that? Can you not extrapolate what is happening? If that's the case, I think it's pretty unusual. Most people don't need to see 3 seconds of video to infer that something is happening when they look at an action photo...

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but it will still be cool to see it move, whether it "needs" to or not. Nothing that we do with our smartphone "needs" to be done. Our smart phones don't even "need" to have cameras. we don't "need" social media apps to communicate. This forum isn't even a "need".

But its fun. Its entertaining. Its cool. Its nice. You can play with it. You can share it with friends. You can do things you weren't able to do before, or just weren't doing before.

There's no "need" to stick to what we "need" to have.

If the creators of our most sought after tech thought that way, we'd still be using flip phones.
 
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iceperson said:
So when you look at this photo you believe the water is just suspended there like that? Can you not extrapolate what is happening? If that's the case, I think it's pretty unusual. Most people don't need to see 3 seconds of video to infer that something is happening when they look at an action photo...

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I'd rather see it in motion. Would be a better memory trigger of how it actually looked than seeing a still. Live Photos evoke more emotion than stills do.
 
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mellomike said:
I love that Apple can take something that's been out (that most consumers didn't know or care about) ... and actually make people love it. Not many companies can do that, but Apple is king of it!

I'd much rather get a feature late and have it be polished and functional than be the first to get it, and it's a wasted feature.
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Mic Drop! That's exactly how I feel. I had waaay tooo much wasted time trying to mess around with other (not to be named) technologies that were just too frustrating!
 
cariacou said:
lol it's hardware limitation...
if any camera could do 18mp/12mp stills, why would we need to buy a new camera to do 4k?
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Lol not it’s not lol
Live photos don’t have to have 12 MP to work lol
iPhone 6 supports video as well
 
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So the fanboys where wrong when they said it was different from already existing features because there "Not videos but high quality photos stitched together" ?
 
cariacou said:
10 year old "new feature"...
I guess the real news is the memory compression here?

now let's hope it'll be more open than the thunderbolt standards Apple designed a few years ago

edit: Nokia introduced it 1y 1/2 ago, I thought someone else did earlier but can't find any info, so I was wrong on 10years
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Did you actually look around and do some research on this "feature" before posting? This was a kludgy, nasty mess from the beginning. Which is why nobody really knows about it. If you search for Living Images Nokia you will find a myriad of articles on how to get it working on this Lumia or that one, which includes full pages of instructions on enabling it and using it. And how to use third party apps to save the "living images" as 720P video on your computer, so you can see them there. And then there's the article about how it was decided, after many months of beta not to include Living Images on the Lumia 1020, because of stability issues.

It's a hot, sticky mess. So this "10 year old new feature," which is actually only a year and half old (and not released in production form until after that) is nothing at all like what Apple is releasing. Because what Apple is releasing actually works.
 
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1) its one of the biggest gimmicks apple has came out with in a long time
2) its literally a gif...like I understand that this an apple website and all but its not some revolutionary feature... all apple did was add the ability to start/stop on command
3) other phones and softwares have been able to do this for years.... like HTC Zoe which was on the HTC One years ago...
 
rdlink said:
Did you actually look around and do some research on this "feature" before posting? This was a kludgy, nasty mess from the beginning. Which is why nobody really knows about it. If you search for Living Images Nokia you will find a myriad of articles on how to get it working on this Lumia or that one, which includes full pages of instructions on enabling it and using it. And how to use third party apps to save the "living images" as 720P video on your computer, so you can see them there. And then there's the article about how it was decided, after many months of beta not to include Living Images on the Lumia 1020, because of stability issues.

It's a hot, sticky mess. So this "10 year old new feature," which is actually only a year and half old (and not released in production form until after that) is nothing at all like what Apple is releasing. Because what Apple is releasing actually works.
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Did you actually look around and do some research on this feature before posting, you couldn't have, otherwise you would have mentioned Zoe.
 
vjpulp said:
This phrase is confusing, to say the least. When I take a picture, I press the button the exact moment I want to take it. There's no way the software can know 1.5 seconds ahaed that I am going to press it a little bit later, and start recording...
So the right description would be: the iPhone captures a time span of 3 seconds from the moment you press the button, and chooses the frame in the middle as "the picture"... (which is not necesseraly the one moment that I wanted to capture)...​
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I believe most cameras these days are actually recording as soon as they are switched on. The recoding is saved once you press the "shutter"button. (That frame). With this feature more "frames" are saved before and after.
 
BenLeong said:
So, it's a photo combined with a MOV file...

...how exactly is that not a movie?
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It's pretty much what I expected. If it works as advertised, it's something I will find useful...a year from now when I upgrade my phone. And so far it appears to work ad advertised.
 
I was really hoping that Apple would use the photo as the key frame and save/compress the movement in a special way that would let them show the moving Live Photo at full resolution. Having the video scaled way down is a bummer. But I still think this will be useful for capturing some specific types of photos.
 
"Best new feature".... something that's basically been around forever and could have easily been implemented before now... gifs.... same idea. wow so revolutionary. hello 1987
 
thecurryman said:
1) its one of the biggest gimmicks apple has came out with in a long time
2) its literally a gif...like I understand that this an apple website and all but its not some revolutionary feature... all apple did was add the ability to start/stop on command
3) other phones and softwares have been able to do this for years.... like HTC Zoe which was on the HTC One years ago...
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It is literally not a gif. Cinemagraphs (ala Nokia, the iOS app) are literally gifs. Do I need to teach you the meaning of the word "literally" or are you literally that daft?
 
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Squid7085 said:
Honestly I think just capturing a few seconds before makes more sense and drop the seconds after. That way you "see" the person smile, and the "Live Photo" actually freezes at the "Photo"
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This thought crossed my mind as well. My bet is that Apple tested it and liked this one more. Also, according to one of the reviews, there will be an update with 9.1 that will cut it if you move your phone right after you take it.

My guess is that in the near future there will be ways to edit the Live Photo.
 
doelcm82 said:
I think they gave it a lot of thought. To do what you suggest, they would have to have invented a new format where a single frame of a 720P MOV file was a 12MP still. Keyframing that would be a nightmare, and compatibility would have been a big issue, because no one would have the codec to view a MOV file with a key frame at such a vastly higher resolution.

It's quite possible that they make a keyframe of the frame in the video that corresponds to the high res still image. that would make the transition into and out of the still image look crisp and clean, so great idea there, but using the full still image as a key frame--that way lies madness.
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My guess is they are definitely making some form of keyframe. If you watch the keynote, when they swipe through the photos in the Photos app, they move and freeze at the point of the photo. My guess is that they have an association, or that the middle frame in the video is equal to the 12mb photo.
 
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