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The only thing Tim said so far that was the least bit interesting was when he was asked about iOS 7 and responded asking how you felt on Christmas Eve. I hope that means something exciting is in store.

Tim pretty much confirmed that Ive has been working on bringing big interface changes to iOS 7.

It was kind of a given by now, but it's the first time we hear anything official about it.
 
Seriously Tim?!?

DARREN MURPH 9:10 PM
Cook: "Lisa Jackson is joining Apple. She recently left the EPA, and she'll now be coordinating these efforts across the company."
DARREN MURPH 9:10 PM
Cook: "She'll report to me. I like her a lot, and she's a chemical engineer by background."
 
Ugh. I'm banging my head against a wall.

It seems nobody who has Cook there to answer questions understands the tax issues around Apple well enough to ask the questions that matter.

Apple avoids huge amounts of tax, but I don't know how much of it is US tax. The biggest tax avoidance that's going on is against the EU and Asia.

Just ask him straight up: If I buy a MBP in the UK, France or Spain, where do the profits from that sale get taxed?
 
Well Cook finally made some news, said in the area of APIs, Apple would be opening up more in the future.
 
He hired Lisa Jackson from the EPA. God knows what new Apple products will look like or how much they'll cost to meet her environmental standards. :eek:


She is an engineer not a hippie at burning man. Get a grip.

Besides pretty much every mac product is entirely made of metal and glass.

Recyclable.
I imagine they will be exactly the same.
 
Basically, we all know what Tim's gonna say before he does:
"We had a terrific year, we're working like madmen for the next releases and we have an incredible range of fabulous products in the pipeline." :eek:

OK, now when do we get exciting products that we can afford and plan to buy again? :confused:
 
It seems nobody who has Cook there to answer questions understands the tax issues around Apple well enough to ask the questions that matter.

Apple avoids huge amounts of tax, but I don't know how much of it is US tax. The biggest tax avoidance that's going on is against the EU and Asia.

Just ask him straight up: If I buy a MBP in the UK, France or Spain, where do the profits from that sale get taxed?

Those questions were asked and answered last week during the Senate subcommittee hearing. You must have missed it.

Also this is a conference about tech and the leaders of the industry. Not about tax code.
 
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She is an engineer not a hippie at burning man. Get a grip.

Besides pretty much every mac product is entirely made of metal and glass.

Recyclable.
I imagine they will be exactly the same.

So what's the point of hiring her then?
 
Those questions were asked and answered last week during the Senate subcommittee hearing. You must have missed it.

Also this is a conference about tech and the leaders of the industry. Not about tax code.

No, they were only about US taxes. Read Cook's answers and he's always very careful about how he words it. He only talks about US sales, and says that foreign sales shouldn't be taxed in the US.

... but what if those foreign sales aren't actually being taxed at all, by anyone?

Taxation is a massive issue, with the tech industry especially. Technology companies are more easily able to shift their profits around (which is why they pay a far lower share of their income in taxation than companies like Wal-Mart). To me, that's fundamentally wrong.
 
No, they were only about US taxes. Read Cook's answers and he's always very careful about how he words it. He only talks about US sales, and says that foreign sales shouldn't be taxed in the US.

... but what if those foreign sales aren't actually being taxed at all, by anyone?

Taxation is a massive issue, with the tech industry especially. Technology companies are more easily able to shift their profits around (which is why they pay a far lower share of their income in taxation than companies like Wal-Mart). To me, that's fundamentally wrong.

While I agree you are right to some extent, the US Needs to consider what having such a high tax rate is doing to their economy. Apple does get taxed abroad except a very minimal amount compared to 35%.

Companies like Apple will turn head over tails before they let the US take 35% of their huge cash cow. Apple has a LOT of money and is willing to invest a lot of that in the US.

I dont know what I am talking about but it made sense in my head
 
The only thing Tim said so far that was the least bit interesting was when he was asked about iOS 7 and responded asking how you felt on Christmas Eve. I hope that means something exciting is in store.

Yeah, and then the interviewers cut it down by trying to make it about them.
As somebody else said: Douchey.
 
No, they were only about US taxes. Read Cook's answers and he's always very careful about how he words it. He only talks about US sales, and says that foreign sales shouldn't be taxed in the US.

... but what if those foreign sales aren't actually being taxed at all, by anyone?

Taxation is a massive issue, with the tech industry especially. Technology companies are more easily able to shift their profits around (which is why they pay a far lower share of their income in taxation than companies like Wal-Mart). To me, that's fundamentally wrong.

Cook: Everything we sell in the US is taxed in the US. For a foreign country, generally speaking, it is taxed in the local market and then if its one of the countries that are being served from Ireland, those units are generally sold by an Irish subsidiary. That income is taxed to the degree it needs to be in the local jurisdiction and then the proceeds go to an Irish subsidiary in many cases called AOI. This acts as a holding company and invests Apple's earnings. Then we pay taxes on those earnings in the United States.

Will be the last thing I post about taxes. Completely off topic from this thread.
 
A well scripted and orchestrated opportunity for Cook to sit amongst Apple's long time supporters and proponents. Steve Jobs did a yeoman's job of luring old Walt into a pro-Apple position years ago, the relationship has made the Times and Apple tons of money.

Being able to relax, knowing he wouldn't be asked any hard hitting questions, it was good practice for future "interviews". A puff piece of sorts, but it did give Cook a chance to enjoy New York.
 
Cook is so defence...

Can you blame him? I thought the whole tone of the interview was pretty interrogatory. Tim is walking a fine line between coming off as evasive, and giving away too much information.

Seriously. What IS the point of this interview? For Tim to say again that they like great products?

Frankly, I don't understand why Cook would even entertain going there. All that's accomplished, is give the competition some insights that might help them, and by extension hurt APPLE.

Tim Cook isn't the type of guy for a big interview. Seems like he's more the type you can engage over coffee or a beer. Steve Jobs was able to detail his thoughts on a variety of tech and matters in general that Cook isn't able to. He has a lot riding on his shoulders, and I think he feels the pressure of it. Giving something away, losing the Apple mystique, any number of things. He's out of his element. He's not Steve, and we can't expect him to be.

Yes, Steve was better at that kind of thing, and I don't believe that Walt and especially Kara are extending the same level of respect to Tim as they did to Steve, who was a natural at these sorts of interviews, and commanded reverence with his charisma, vision, and in-depth knowledge of the subjects at hand, the moment he entered the room.
 
Wow Cook really is saying nothing. What is the point of this interview again?

+1

That's Apple ! He might as well stayed in his office or home.

What's the point of this interview, with his mouth zipped shut, and not spilling out not a single bean of exciting news. Secrecy is what Apple is all about, and I feel it is not the best policy. Their CEO looks like a secretive guy too. :)
 
Basically, we all know what Tim's gonna say before he does:
"We had a terrific year, we're working like madmen for the next releases and we have an incredible range of fabulous products in the pipeline." :eek:

OK, now when do we get exciting products that we can afford and plan to buy again? :confused:

Clearly Tim would not be talking about new products, especially just a short time before a keynote.

I was pleased with what Tim Cook said. I take him at his word when he says Apple's main focus is to make really great products and to justify the trust customers have in Apple.

I also was happy about what I didn't hear. Most other CEOs on that stage would be talking financials, profits, acceleration of revenues, growing the bottom line organically. Many CEOs seem to barely know what products they sell. Remember (shudder) Gil Amelio?
 
Ugh. I'm banging my head against a wall.

It seems nobody who has Cook there to answer questions understands the tax issues around Apple well enough to ask the questions that matter.

Apple avoids huge amounts of tax, but I don't know how much of it is US tax. The biggest tax avoidance that's going on is against the EU and Asia.

Just ask him straight up: If I buy a MBP in the UK, France or Spain, where do the profits from that sale get taxed?

Apple doesn't avoid any U.S. tax on products sold in the U.S. They also aren't doing anything illegal. They have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders to maximize shareholder value. Rational people do everything they can to minimize their tax burden, stop bashing Apple for not doing everything they can to maximize theirs. if there is a loop hole they can legally exploit, then they have no business NOT taking advantage of it. Want a solution? Stop complicating tax codes with exceptions and special benefits and exemptions that allow people to take advantage of them and avoid taxation. Simple.

No, they were only about US taxes. Read Cook's answers and he's always very careful about how he words it. He only talks about US sales, and says that foreign sales shouldn't be taxed in the US.

... but what if those foreign sales aren't actually being taxed at all, by anyone?

Taxation is a massive issue, with the tech industry especially. Technology companies are more easily able to shift their profits around (which is why they pay a far lower share of their income in taxation than companies like Wal-Mart). To me, that's fundamentally wrong.

They did not only discuss U.S. taxes. In fact they discussed the taxation of their foreign revenues in detail, explained that all sales on products are taxed in the given country before the profits are exported into Ireland, and explained the purpose of their 3 Irish companies, and exactly how they operate.

And you know what? If the government gets less money because Apple can avoid taxes by taking advantage of some loopholes, then how about doing that for a solution? How about a dollar not given to the government is a dollar not wasted on some stupid wasteful entitlement program? The governments of the developed countries around the world are absolutely ridiculous in size, and a lousy billion or two isn't going to do any of them any good. They are fundamentally too large and they make it much more inefficient and expensive to do business. America had an incredibly weak federal government for a very long time after it was founded, and it turned itself into the wealthiest country in the world per person in the shortest amount of time BY FAR. NOT. EVEN. CLOSE. People need to stop voting for a larger and larger government that claims it will take care of its people, so that the people won't need to take care of themselves. They need to start taking responsibility for themselves and their affairs, instead of whining about how Apple isn't paying enough taxes, as if this will somehow cure the problems their country has. If you can't afford your government then man up, shrink it, and take care of yourself.

And they didn't badger him with this boring nonsense because it's a tech conference, not a boring crap turned into some politically charged witch trial conference. So off topic.
 
A: On the iPad, productivity has been very key. Some were concerned it would be consumption-only, but it isn't. We got iWork on there, and Pages is the most popular paid app of all time on iPad. We have GarageBand, iMovie, etc. We've tried to put balance on content creation. You'll continue to see some cool things there.

Rejoice, he said iWork, he really mentioned the name :) !

Mr. Cook, what about finally updating iWork on OS X :mad: ?
 
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