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ZipZap

macrumors 603
Dec 14, 2007
6,089
1,458
The magic mouse is fine to use however thin is not the way to go. I wish it was a bit more bulbous to support my palm better. I rest my hand on a mouse something I cannot do with a magic mouse.

I doubt the logitech will be any better. And frankly, it just overpriced.
 

Crispinhodges

macrumors newbie
Mar 29, 2013
9
2
When I talk to Applestore employees the party line seems to be that the Trackpad is better. Perhaps this new mouse is so people like me who prefer mice have somewhere to go should Apple drop their offering.
 

jayducharme

macrumors 601
Jun 22, 2006
4,605
6,273
The thick of it
I agree. I only get a couple months on my trackpad too. Seems like I'm always replacing those batteries.

I've found that if you leave your Mac on most of the time, the batteries on the Magic Trackpad drain really quickly. But if you shut your Mac down when you're done using it, the batteries last a lot longer. I too get about 6 months out of my trackpad and keyboard batteries.
 

QuarterSwede

macrumors G3
Oct 1, 2005
9,820
2,084
Colorado Springs, CO
I love a flat mouse, both for feel and for fitting in a travel bag.

I hate the big domed "shoe-mice" even as a I respect their ergonomics up to a point. But they take extra force: I have to move my whole arm, and drag the weight of my hand pressing down on the mouse's feet. No, thanks. I like a small mouse I can move with fingertips alone. Fingertips are more precise than my elbow! (In fact, when I use a domed mouse, I don't even bother resting my hand on it. I just cup my fingers higher and waste that ergonomic palm rest because it makes it hard to, you know, point at things.)

It's not at RSI issue because I use the best RSI-prevention of all: variety. Sometimes I use the mouse, sometimes the trackpad, sometimes a gaming mouse I keep on hand... sometimes even a big trackball. (And a lot of the time: an iPad!)

But I'd pick a Magic Mouse over a Logitech because I love Apple's scrolling mechanism. No wheel is good enough after trying that. I don't actually own a Magic Mouse because I'm waiting to get one bundled with a future Mac, but I love using them. (I also love the Magic Trackpad and might opt for that instead.)
Same thoughts here. Apple's scrolling mechanism is worlds better than the alternatives and I use my mouse and trackpad the same way so RSI isn't an issue.

Personally, I prefer the magic trackpad these days. The surface area for gestures is very nice. The more gesture heavy OS X becomes the less I like mice.
 

jfx94

macrumors regular
May 22, 2013
134
17
where ever I am at.
I've found that if you leave your Mac on most of the time, the batteries on the Magic Trackpad drain really quickly. But if you shut your Mac down when you're done using it, the batteries last a lot longer. I too get about 6 months out of my trackpad and keyboard batteries.

That would explain it. I haven't shut it down in almost 7 months, display just sleeps when I do.

Thanks for the help!
 

henzpwnapple

macrumors regular
Feb 13, 2009
147
8
While Magic Mouse being one of the worst Apple product ever made (as with non-retina iPad Mini and the thinner-than-USB-and-T-Shape MagSafe3)... I guess Logitech couldn't resist to roll this stupid thing out after years (?) of research and admin-costs, probably. :p

Oh wait! Maybe this is just a piece that will MAKE YOU WANT TO buy the other models with the same label!! :eek:
 

Macman45

macrumors G5
Jul 29, 2011
13,197
135
Somewhere Back In The Long Ago
Agreed. Unless this was a tiny trackpad but then that would make zero sense if you're looking at it as a travel mouse with laptop. :)

Funny thing is, I keep going back to the MM because of gesturing which I use a lot. I was given an older Logitech wireless KB and mouse a while back, and although I love the KB which is way easier and more comfortable to use than either the Apple wired or BT offerings, I just can't use the mouse....No gestures...So I still use the MM...It's not perfect, but I'm just used to it I guess.
 

eoblaed

macrumors 68040
Apr 21, 2010
3,070
3,184
What is the purpose of a wireless mouse when the keyboard is like 8 inches from it (or less). I hate walking up to a system and the mouse and/or kb are dead because of batteries.

There is so little advantage to wireless for these input devices. Hey, you want to couch-surf using bluetooth keyboard and apple tv go for it, but that is such a small use case.

Wired mice can get tedious with the cable catching on things, dragging around corners of stuff on your desk, etc. Not having the cable eliminates that entirely. As well, fewer cables == cleaner, less cluttered desktop. That's worth it for a lot of folks, myself included.
 

SkyBell

macrumors 604
Sep 7, 2006
6,606
226
Texas, unfortunately.
What is the purpose of a wireless mouse when the keyboard is like 8 inches from it (or less). I hate walking up to a system and the mouse and/or kb are dead because of batteries.

There is so little advantage to wireless for these input devices. Hey, you want to couch-surf using bluetooth keyboard and apple tv go for it, but that is such a small use case.

Finally, someone with a little sense! :p

Personally, I'll never buy a mouse, or keyboard that doesn't have a nice long wire attached to it. Batteries are just one more thing to worry about/blow money on, simply to save one from "the horrors" of those unsightly cords. :rolleyes:
 

PhamQu

macrumors newbie
Jul 16, 2013
29
0
FL, USA
I've never used the Magic Mouse that everybody seems to be complaining about, BUT I am using logitech's Bluetooth keyboard k810. It's great, and the easy-switch is magnificent. However, I switch between my laptop, tablet, and phone. The last two are touch screen, so it's a bit awkward to reach up to the screen then back to the keyboard to type.
A touch-pad with easy-switch SEEMS like a wonderful thing, but it depends on the limits it faces while connected to tablets and phones.
 

trellus

macrumors regular
Jan 12, 2007
159
171
Plano, TX
The magic mouse is horrible for comfort, and can't support Apple's great gestures unless you install a third party plugin.

It baffles me that Apple doesn't include the Magic Trackpad as the default mouse/trackpad for their desktops. It's easier on the hands and allows you to do much more with the computer. Gesture are easier, more intuitive, and don't incite pain.

I'm pretty sure it depends on how you 'interface' with the mouse -- the Magic Mouse doesn't feel painful to me at all, but I also don't rest my hand flat against it.

I also like the Magic Trackpad, but navigating a pointer on the screen never feels as natural to me with a trackpad as with a mouse I physically move.

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Finally, someone with a little sense! :p

Personally, I'll never buy a mouse, or keyboard that doesn't have a nice long wire attached to it. Batteries are just one more thing to worry about/blow money on, simply to save one from "the horrors" of those unsightly cords. :rolleyes:

This analysis is spot on for most Macs since the machine is the screen -- iMac or MacBook -- and thus there is a very short distance between the machine and the keyboard and mouse, and wired Apple keyboards all have that nifty feature of having a well-placed USB input for the wired mouse.

However, if you are on a PC box, your big box may be quite a distance from the keyboard and mouse, and I've always found a leashed mouse to be especially problematic in these cases since virtually no PC keyboards (certainly not the stock ones that come with the system) have a USB input for the mouse. I have often found that the box is so far from the mouse that sometimes the "leash" on the mouse (even though it is pretty long) is too short and it literally will affect my ability to navigate with the mouse.

Obviously there are ways around that.... a USB hub comes to mind, and some monitors even have a nice USB hub built-in, but not all do, for example, the ones where I work do not, so I prefer a wireless mouse there.

At my last job, on the other hand, I used my own MacBook Pro hooked up to an external monitor, and I preferred my wireless Apple keyboard and Magic Mouse to wired there because it was one less cable I had to detach at the end of the day.
 

Zerotolerance

macrumors member
Dec 5, 2011
61
6
New Hampshire
If they specifically made it to compliment Macbooks, they should have made it black to go with the Macbook's keyboard and screen bezel. What really gets me about Apple's white accessories is that they're a throwback to when Macs were all aluminum and white polycarbonate, but now that there's no white anywhere on a Mac, the white accessories make no sense.
 

RolyPolyBird

macrumors regular
Aug 13, 2010
208
0
Interesting - that they try to hide their logo from all the marketing materials.

Disturbing - their sexualising of the product in their advert and suggesting the stroking and caressing of genitalia.

And at that price point?
 

iCole

macrumors regular
Jun 10, 2010
190
21
I love the Magic Mouse too and I don't rest my hand on it either. I sorta grasp it at the end with my thumb and ring finger and keep most of my hand on the table. I wouldn't use it for gaming tho but it's ideal for browsing or doing day to day stuff.
 

GermanyChris

macrumors 601
Jul 3, 2011
4,185
5
Here
Seriously why be negative. Magic mice obviously sell or they wouldn't design this. You don't like it then don't get it. Simple really.

Because his opinion magic mice suck, I share that same opinion.

Interesting - that they try to hide their logo from all the marketing materials.

Disturbing - their sexualising of the product in their advert and suggesting the stroking and caressing of genitalia.

And at that price point?


Wow, I didn't get that at all
 

toke lahti

macrumors 68040
Apr 23, 2007
3,293
509
Helsinki, Finland
Anybody knows if the black "pc" version T630 is technically identical to white "mac" version T631?
I'd prefer black and would use it with both "pc" and mac...
 

thefourthpope

macrumors 65816
Sep 8, 2007
1,432
823
DelMarVa
Seriously why be negative. Magic mice obviously sell or they wouldn't design this. You don't like it then don't get it. Simple really.

The school I work for provides magic mice (and only magic mice) with new macs. I have a trackpad at home but don't want to buy another one. So "not getting one" isn't always an option. It's too bad, because magic mouse is an inferior product with limited usability vis-a-vis magic trackpad.
And this seems to be the same product, albeit with a nice cable charger built in.

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With all the Magic Mouse nay-saying, I'd just like to add my voice to the mix to say that I've been using one for about three years now, and I absolutely love it. I cringe at the thought of using a normal mouse now

Let me stop you right there. I don't think many people are wistfully remembering the by-gone days of cleaning rubber mouse balls. For me at least, the beef is that magic mouse is unable to perform several of the most useful multitouch features that the magic trackpad does so well. Apple has always been about consistency in their environment, and about early phase out. The traditional mouse should go the same way. OSX is made for a trackpad. Drop the mouse.
 

roadbloc

macrumors G3
Aug 24, 2009
8,784
215
UK
Looks like a Magic Mouse. Who on Earth would want their mouse to be like a Magic Mouse? They're awful.
 

boateng

macrumors 6502
Sep 8, 2012
440
10
i find the magic mouse to be to small and kinda uncomfortable

what's the best mouse to use with the macbook pro?
 

Azathoth

macrumors 6502a
Sep 16, 2009
659
0
Seriously why be negative. Magic mice obviously sell or they wouldn't design this. You don't like it then don't get it. Simple really.

This is a rather ignorant statement. The Magic Mouse is extremely unergonomic, but like many peripherals, the user might not notice this for weeks or months after purchase. Five minutes of trying one out in a store is useless. But yeah, I'm sure you think long-term RSI is overrated. Just ask John Siracusa.
 
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