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Logitech Slashes Google TV-Based Revue to $99 as Returns Exceed Sales
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i have the appletv2, but badly want to get the new Roku and sell the ATV. Roku does so everything AppleTV does and MORE.
My father-in-law has a TV with Google TV in it.
Like most Google products they simply crammed too many features in. It's a TV, not a computer, and people don't want their TV to feel like a computer.
People say the Apple TV doesn't do enough. Well yeah, that's why Apple keeps selling them.
Like most Google products they simply crammed too many features in. It's a TV, not a computer, and people don't want their TV to feel like a computer.
People say the Apple TV doesn't do enough. Well yeah, that's why Apple keeps selling them.
It's not just the poor interface, but even more importantly, the lack of content.
Many networks started blocking Google TV units from streaming their content.
You are missing the trump card of the AppleTV 2 which is AirPlay. With AirPlay, you have access to all of those services (except for those that explicitly disable it - but that goes back to the Content issue again - not Apple). Seriously - an AppleTV is WAY better than a box with all those services on it because it instantly solves the problem of the remote control that every other device struggles with.
Jobs: "The TV will lose until--"
Until there are things worth watching on TV and a way to organize those programs to duck around commercials. Face it: if you get crap on the cable, crap thru air, crap through iTunes, why would anyone pay extra money for a little box to get crap for more money? The one brilliant thing ATV does is integrate the home computer to the screen so you can store lots of music and movies on a computer and watch on a better system/bigger screen as an event.
The TV market is a puzzle to be unlocked, and Apple is doing it, but they can't force it because it is too big and too muddled a situation with all the entertainment companies and manufacturers, etc.
I'm pretty sure in 5 years, maybe more or less, there will be TVs with Apple-TV-type devices imbedded and Tivo-type data recorders inside. The TV, most of them, is still essentially a TV on the same functioning level as they were for half a century: get signal in, display signal for viewers. The industry will begin to change and make TVs more integrated to information and internet and home computers to give their sets an edge.
Until there are things worth watching on TV and a way to organize those programs to duck around commercials. Face it: if you get crap on the cable, crap thru air, crap through iTunes, why would anyone pay extra money for a little box to get crap for more money? The one brilliant thing ATV does is integrate the home computer to the screen so you can store lots of music and movies on a computer and watch on a better system/bigger screen as an event.
The TV market is a puzzle to be unlocked, and Apple is doing it, but they can't force it because it is too big and too muddled a situation with all the entertainment companies and manufacturers, etc.
I'm pretty sure in 5 years, maybe more or less, there will be TVs with Apple-TV-type devices imbedded and Tivo-type data recorders inside. The TV, most of them, is still essentially a TV on the same functioning level as they were for half a century: get signal in, display signal for viewers. The industry will begin to change and make TVs more integrated to information and internet and home computers to give their sets an edge.
While that's certainly true I think there's two additional points that need to be mentioned:
1) Geek's view of reasonable pricing tends to be somewhat unrealistic. Look at the fuss recently over Netflix raising prices, you'd think they were demanding you gave your kids college fund over rather than $6 a month. Now the content owners tend to go in the other direction but as much as I hate to say this (being a consumer and wanting the lowest prices possible) but I have a suspicion the content owners are closer to the balancing point than the geeks at this point.
2) Google didn't bother even talking to the content providers and that's a systematic problem with their various projects. Put simply Google has a long history of ignoring copyright and content ownership and in this case it came back to bite their customers hard.
Ultimately whatever the future of TV / Internet Video it's only going to happen when the various parties sit down and work out a deal that's acceptable to consumers AND allows content producers to make a profit.
Makes sense. You can easily hack past it but I guess the average customer shouldn't have to...
On the topic of Google TV being built into TVs: IMO it's always better to buy a dumb screen and plug a box with all your streaming stuff into it. That way, when the computery part becomes obsolete, you simply plug in a new box instead of having to upgrade the whole TV.
No surprise here, friend talked me into it, purchased it 1 week & returned the next. Total waste!
I dunno about an AppleTV based television set, but I do think Apple are missing some opportunities with the AppleTV. I would buy up a more expensive version in an instant if it had a hard-drive that I could record onto, as it would allow me to simplify my current set-up.
This way would get the best of being able to record local TV channels, and get access to iTunes content or other video on my computer.
A blu-ray drive would be icing on the cake, but I doubt they're ever going to do that now.
This way would get the best of being able to record local TV channels, and get access to iTunes content or other video on my computer.
A blu-ray drive would be icing on the cake, but I doubt they're ever going to do that now.
You forgot airplay. I use it often to play music through my theater speakers. Also use it to browse photos when the grandparents are visiting.
The Google TV by Logitech was way too expensive.
ATV is at a great price point. I love mine and all we do is stream Netflix and some Podcasts with it. Airplay is a nice little add on that my kids enjoy. they'll run into the room and want to share something they found on Youtube.
I am optimistic regarding the future ATV with iOS5, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
ATV is at a great price point. I love mine and all we do is stream Netflix and some Podcasts with it. Airplay is a nice little add on that my kids enjoy. they'll run into the room and want to share something they found on Youtube.
I am optimistic regarding the future ATV with iOS5, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
The AppleTV2 was cheap enough that I was willing to give it a chance. The GoogleTV box was just way too expensive to try out.
Prior to the ATV2, I had used Linux, XBMC, and others to stream my media library to my TV and wasn't satisfied with the interface and control. ATV2 is much better - but far from perfect. At $99, I am happy.
Prior to the ATV2, I had used Linux, XBMC, and others to stream my media library to my TV and wasn't satisfied with the interface and control. ATV2 is much better - but far from perfect. At $99, I am happy.
Im guessing the same fate will happen to Google Wallet. Infact I hope it does, They want your phone to replace your wallet by 2015 or something. That is something that would scare me.
This would be a great idea if the cable card technology was up to snuff. Browsing FIOS channels with a smooth apple interface would be awesome. Browsing FIOS on-demand lineup with apple on-demand interface. DVR done the apple way. Streaming to iDevices automatically. The key is to get it working nicely with your cable/dish provider. Currently I'm stuck waiting for FIOS to update to their buggy new 1.9 interface.
Does anyone really think that Apple has to team up with a television service? I think that if they just teamed up with Tivo, that would be a good enough match that people would purchase. I on the other hand think that if Hulu was able to strike some serious deals to get discovery and all the networks that my wife watches, I would drop my cable and just use them and hopefully do so on my 
TV. No need for them to partner with Direct TV or any service like that...
TV. No need for them to partner with Direct TV or any service like that...
So they took features away from ATV2? Because my ATV1 also gives me access to YouTube, Flickr photos, tons of podcasts, and any Internet radio that can stream through iTunes.
And that was before I hacked it and installed Boxee. Now I can stream Pandora too
Google TV is still in its infancy, you cannot say the whole platform is a failure yet.
The Nexus One didn't fail either. It was highly successful in its target market, which was Android hackers. Same with the Nexus S.