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Logitech Slashes Google TV-Based Revue to $99 as Returns Exceed Sales
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In iOS 5 you can wirelessly send content from your iOS device to an AppleTV. So, instead of running the app on the AppleTV and mirror it including controls to an iOS device, you run the app on your iOS device and mirror it to the AppleTV.
Yep. That's it.
Blame the content providers who are trying to lock the market every which way they can.
At the same time, keep in mind this is a first generation product. Android is improving fast, which will translate into a better Google TV.
The concept is right, and it is more open and thus ultimately better than Apple TV. It also supports a full version of Chrome (with full Flash support), thus with a full wireless keyboard and a mouse it can come close to replacing a full-blown HTPC.
I use Apple products for all my computing needs, but have gone to PC for my HTPC setup -- it's simply much better than what is possible with Mac OS or iOS (I have tried to make work both a Mac Mini (running first Mac OS and PLEX, then Windows) and ATV).
I think Google has a chance of doing it better with OS 3, to which I would imagine the current Review is upgradable. For $99 I think the Review is a better alternative to ATV, for those who do not install XBMC on it.
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I'm perfectly happy with my first gen ATV running 100% stock. I don't see why it gets so much hate.
Maybe I am not understanding you correctly, but flipping through digital channels is probably never going to be as smooth as flipping through the old analog channels. With streaming video you have an I frame, which is a complete picture, and then some number of other frames that only contain the changes to the previous I frame, then a new I frame, and on and on. When you switch to a new channel you have to wait until the next I frame comes in before you can start displaying video again.
Analog channel switching could be smooth and responsive because it never had to deal with this.
It depends on whatnpart of the world you're talking about. Where I live, TiVo has been sold at a loss for the last few years, with only 10% of customers than were forecast. Those who wanted a set top box already had one.
Half of me thinks this is true. Look at the iPad. every one was saying that the tablet market was a niche that had failed at mainstream, then apple as left every other electronic maker running to catch up.
I'm not sure how Jobs did it? It's like he sold his soul to the devel or something with the marketing success of iOS devices, which use are nice and shinny and a pleasure to hold. But here is a reason they are sold as "magical" rather than listing their speces.
So if anyone could sell a set top box to the world that they don't need, it's Apple.
Well I think you have hit the nail on the head with the "more choices" though I wouldn't nessecerly say better. VOD, Spotify, Blockbuster, YouTube, Hulu, Qriosity, HBOGO, iPlayer, etc. etc. The markert is saturated.
I'm not sure what new Apple could bring to the stage.
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only product like this I would buy would be a dedicated Windows media center box with built on dual tuner for free ota broadcasts that I can hook an external drive to for the dvr function. basically this is what I already have but put it in a small package with an ARM CPU instead of a mini tower and I am sold.
only product like this I would buy would be a dedicated Windows media center box with built on dual tuner for free ota broadcasts that I can hook an external drive to for the dvr function. basically this is what I already have but put it in a small package with an ARM CPU instead of a mini tower and I am sold.
I don't think it is the geeks that are screaming over the price increase. Based on fact that even Netflix has lowered their expected revenue for next quarter, I think its most of their customers. Content owns want as much as they can get, they even think you should pay every time you come in contact with their contact, buy it on DVD, buy it again on Blu-ray, buy it again for your computer, buy it again for you iPad, buy again .....
I agreed it's all about the content and price.
The platform who offers the best of both worlds above will win.
Add to that, easy to use and reliability. That's the winning formula.
The platform who offers the best of both worlds above will win.
Add to that, easy to use and reliability. That's the winning formula.
I liked ATV
I liked the first Gen AppleTV...especially since you could buy shows. When the changed it to "rent only" on the ATV2 the selection was significantly diminished.
I do like Netflix on AppleTV, however, I'd gladly pay more just to have full streaming access to all the video/audio content in the iTunes store.
I liked the first Gen AppleTV...especially since you could buy shows. When the changed it to "rent only" on the ATV2 the selection was significantly diminished.
I do like Netflix on AppleTV, however, I'd gladly pay more just to have full streaming access to all the video/audio content in the iTunes store.I liked the first Gen AppleTV...especially since you could buy shows. When the changed it to "rent only" on the ATV2 the selection was significantly diminished.
I actually consider the AT2 a downgrade because you can't even buy iTunes content. What kind of crap is that? I love being able to sit at my TV and purchase films as a whim, and you'd think Apple would want me to do that, eh?
The Japanese have been doing it for decades. No reason to worry about it.
However, I would not want Google, an advertising company whose product is me, having access to all my financial transactions.
I see lots of typical discussion going on... this sucks, that sucks and this is great or this is the best.... Blah, blah, blah....
The way I see it, this is a major blow to Google TV. When you have a flop this big, Google will have to practically pay another manufacture to try it again... even if they do have a new OS or improved strategy. Logitech is loosing millions and I'm sure no one else is standing in line to be the next looser.
This is a huge flop and black-eye on Google. It will be interesting to see what this does to their overall strategy in this area. It will have to be rethought.
The way I see it, this is a major blow to Google TV. When you have a flop this big, Google will have to practically pay another manufacture to try it again... even if they do have a new OS or improved strategy. Logitech is loosing millions and I'm sure no one else is standing in line to be the next looser.
This is a huge flop and black-eye on Google. It will be interesting to see what this does to their overall strategy in this area. It will have to be rethought.
I wish the TV was more integrated and better organized.
My home theater rig.
set top box, surround sound, hdtv, apple tv
That really isn't that much stuff, pretty typical but to hook it all up was actually really annoying. To make the Apple TV and the Cable box both play through the surround sound was annoying. If i wanted to hook up one more thing to the TV i'm not sure i could get it to play through the surround sound.
Also i need to change TV inputs, surround sound outputs just to switch between all the devices. It's incredibly frustrating. Also I have 3 remote controls. There really needs to be a better way.
My home theater rig.
set top box, surround sound, hdtv, apple tv
That really isn't that much stuff, pretty typical but to hook it all up was actually really annoying. To make the Apple TV and the Cable box both play through the surround sound was annoying. If i wanted to hook up one more thing to the TV i'm not sure i could get it to play through the surround sound.
Also i need to change TV inputs, surround sound outputs just to switch between all the devices. It's incredibly frustrating. Also I have 3 remote controls. There really needs to be a better way.
Like Motorola before it, another OEM fails hard at the hands of Googles lousy software and planning.
There are only around 300,000 Xooms that have been sold, which I'm sure is only about 10% or so that Moto wanted to sell by being "first" with an Android tablet. Oops.
There are only around 300,000 Xooms that have been sold, which I'm sure is only about 10% or so that Moto wanted to sell by being "first" with an Android tablet. Oops.
I am not a huge fan of airplay. It cost some money, but I setup a Sonos based music system and it beats the pants off anything airplay can offer up.
I would also like to know about that crap Sony dug out from the bowels of their R&D basement. The Sony TV.
I was in my local Sony Style store at the mall a few months ago and I can attest that t Sony TV is worthless!!!!!!!!!!!!! No one even bothered to help me use it as I was fiddling around with that 300 key remote.
The sales staff, a bunch of non desrcript, Branch Devidian like schmucks wearing them long sleeve, beam-me-up-Scotty henleys simply stood around waiting for their orders from, "THE CHURCH".
I swear, if you ask them a question they couldn't handle, they'd pop a cyanide pill on the effing spot then fall back dead leaving you to mouth with or without audio:WTF!
I was in my local Sony Style store at the mall a few months ago and I can attest that t Sony TV is worthless!!!!!!!!!!!!! No one even bothered to help me use it as I was fiddling around with that 300 key remote.
The sales staff, a bunch of non desrcript, Branch Devidian like schmucks wearing them long sleeve, beam-me-up-Scotty henleys simply stood around waiting for their orders from, "THE CHURCH".
I swear, if you ask them a question they couldn't handle, they'd pop a cyanide pill on the effing spot then fall back dead leaving you to mouth with or without audio:WTF!
I bought a can of soda at my Hotel loby in Ikebukuro Tokyo in 2003 with a company issued cell-phone (just a flip phone) it showed up on the phone bill
Future of ATV
I like my AppleTV but I do wish that it could do more. Where it excels is that its extremely easy to navigate, setup, and understand. The tough part for Apple is going to be adding more functionality while still keeping it simple and straight-forward.
With the ATV in its current form, I think the best thing for Apple to do would be to try to license it's software so it'll be run on all new HDTVs. Right now the TV manufacturers are creating their own software interfaces and they're bound to be crappy compared to Apples.
However, for the ATV to take off it will have to evolve:
Evolve Apps:
I think it would be a great idea to have an App store...the only question is how you interact with the television. People obviously don't like having a keyboard in the living room and if you require an iPod touch/iPhone to interact with it you're severely limiting the audience (and making the total cost of ownership more). The other problem is making the box powerful enough while still not making it the cost of a console. However, I don't think we should underestimate the power of a TV top box that the average programmer can sell apps on. Some may wine about the quality of apps on the app store but at least you don't have to pay $60 for a game like you do on PS3/Xbox.
Evolve Content Agreements:
Why the heck does the ATV have a Netflix app when all the same content is already in the iTunes store?! Apple would be smart to work on a subscription agreement where people can get all the TV/music they want. The main roadblock here is obviously the content owners (the OPEC of movies/music). Netflix is making good money doing something that Apple could do with some extra negotiating.
I like my AppleTV but I do wish that it could do more. Where it excels is that its extremely easy to navigate, setup, and understand. The tough part for Apple is going to be adding more functionality while still keeping it simple and straight-forward.
With the ATV in its current form, I think the best thing for Apple to do would be to try to license it's software so it'll be run on all new HDTVs. Right now the TV manufacturers are creating their own software interfaces and they're bound to be crappy compared to Apples.
However, for the ATV to take off it will have to evolve:
Evolve Apps:
I think it would be a great idea to have an App store...the only question is how you interact with the television. People obviously don't like having a keyboard in the living room and if you require an iPod touch/iPhone to interact with it you're severely limiting the audience (and making the total cost of ownership more). The other problem is making the box powerful enough while still not making it the cost of a console. However, I don't think we should underestimate the power of a TV top box that the average programmer can sell apps on. Some may wine about the quality of apps on the app store but at least you don't have to pay $60 for a game like you do on PS3/Xbox.
Evolve Content Agreements:
Why the heck does the ATV have a Netflix app when all the same content is already in the iTunes store?! Apple would be smart to work on a subscription agreement where people can get all the TV/music they want. The main roadblock here is obviously the content owners (the OPEC of movies/music). Netflix is making good money doing something that Apple could do with some extra negotiating.