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SeaFox said:
I agree, but AT&T was twenty years ago. The economy is differnet. Also, note that in the last few years the baby bells have been recongealing into larger companies again.



It would be good eventually. But Wall Street and the tech sector wouldn't see it that way. They'd just see a humongous company being broken apart and think "Oh, now the Windows OS and Office wont integrate as much as they used to. The suite will suffer." "Now this section of the company formerly known as Microsoft will not be able to play off the strengths of this one." "The consumer products devision will spin off and die like Lucent." We're all going to be DOOOMED! {doomed!}

This isn't a telecom spinning off divisions in the glitzy 80's. It's a major computer software/entertainmant/.com business (that makes up 90% of practically all of computing) breaking apart in a post-post tech-sector-burst recession.

A. Wall-Street is dumb. Like the Great White, really scary until you realize it's got all the smarts of a blender. And, yes Wall-Street would've screamed bloody murder, and half of the MS investors would have been screaming 'run away, run away.' But, the other half would buy the sold shares.
B. The Suite suffers because they're tied together, and yeah I know that Wall-Street wouldn't see it that way, see A.
C. It is the natural order of capitism, creative destruction, a monopoly rises, congeals, then dies either by its own hand or by intervention, then a new company—or a dozen small ones—rises up and makes the market even better than before.
D. If all of MS from the Redmond camus to the Slate servers was suddenly sucked into a dark hole, from which nothing, not even light could escape, something would replace it. The economy, like nature, abhors a vacuum.
 
In any market while there may be hundreds of companies in the beginning, it soon narrows down to only 3 or 4 major companies. Look at supermarkets, 3 major ones are Target, Wal-Mart and K-Mart. The computer business is weeding out the smaller companies and finding the 3 or 4 for that industry. Apple is still in there. Gateway is sliding.
 
amyhre said:
In any market while there may be hundreds of companies in the beginning, it soon narrows down to only 3 or 4 major companies. Look at supermarkets, 3 major ones are Target, Wal-Mart and K-Mart. The computer business is weeding out the smaller companies and finding the 3 or 4 for that industry. Apple is still in there. Gateway is sliding.

I think Apple is somewhat in a different position in that race. As they the only ones selling Macs. Gateway has to fight for Dell's customers, and vice-versa. But Gateway can't fight for people who use Macs, because for many of them the fact Gateway doesn't run the MacOS makes them not even an option in those consumers minds.
 
SeaFox said:
I think Apple is somewhat in a different position in that race. As they the only ones selling Macs. Gateway has to fight for Dell's customers, and vice-versa. But Gateway can't fight for people who use Macs, because for many of them the fact Gateway doesn't run the MacOS makes them not even an option in those consumers minds.

Its true that Apple is in a different situation, and Mac's will never go away as long as the software for Graphic Design is there. Linux will probably dominate over Microsoft (for the Advanced computer users anyway), Windows will be there for the easy user - corporate, and Mac's will be there, like a wise sage, knowing the ways of the world (forever). Gateway, I think they'll be gone by the end of next year. They just aren't in the market like they were 3 years ago. By the way, I've only seen 1 Mac commercial my whole life (besides online) and that is for the iPod. I wonder if people still question if Mac is still out there?
 
Sad but true. The only commercial I can actually remember seeing on TV for a Mac was the one when the first iMac G3 was announced. Or maybe it was the G4. Anyway it's the fireman one where Apple is apologizing for toasting Windows PC's in public.
 
Mechcozmo said:
Longhorn info, but some really good stuff from the VP of MicroSoft.

Longhorn FAQs


I love this quote:



Honestly, havn't Macs had this since 10.0? Documents folder for the documents, Pictures folder for the pictures.............And new in Tiger: Spotlight!
he said he created longhorn originaly for music,could he have been ticked off about the success of itunes,and i skiped through it a bit so i may be wrong, but after that i saw nothing about music.hahahahahahahaha
 
amyhre said:
Sad but true. The only commercial I can actually remember seeing on TV for a Mac was the one when the first iMac G3 was announced. Or maybe it was the G4. Anyway it's the fireman one where Apple is apologizing for toasting Windows PC's in public.
OMG if you can find that commercial, I'd love to see it.
Actually I have an idea for an animation:
Pac-man, going around eating apples getting stronger. Then he starts to eat windows and starts coughing and choking and dies because of all of the glass and that. If someone can make a Flash anim like that lemme know and make it cause I wanna see it.
 
A: Yes. Like Windows XP, Windows Longhorn will ship in different editions, though they might change from today's Home, Professional, Tablet PC, Media Center, 64-Bit Professional (Itanium), Professional Edition x64, and Embedded Editions. For example, I'm expecting the capabilities of today's XP Media Center Edition to be incorporate into Home Edition or, perhaps, a high-end version for home that might be called Premium Edition.


WOW
let me count the apple operating systems,

mac os x
mac os x server

hmm
not as many

OMG Watch some of the movies, my fav is the startup
but it gets better, when he talks about trasnparancy, you can notice that the have added shadows to the windows (os x what?)
and then when he is showing the desktop he opens a window, and says "look at how that window opens" oddly enough, it zooms in from the center of the screen, like how folders open in os x

http://www.winsupersite.com/longhorn/

lol
wow
 
Sharewaredemon said:
: Yes. Like Windows XP, Windows Longhorn will ship in different editions, though they might change from today's Home, Professional, Tablet PC, Media Center, 64-Bit Professional (Itanium), Professional Edition x64, and Embedded Editions. For example, I'm expecting the capabilities of today's XP Media Center Edition to be incorporate into Home Edition or, perhaps, a high-end version for home that might be called Premium Edition.
What? I thought multiple editions would dilute the windows name and bring all kinds of mass consumer confusion! ;)
 
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