Tell me about it. When I used to work in computer repair and people ask me what computer should they avoid buying, I take them to the back where we put the pending computers to be fixed and 80% of the computers had the HP brand name on it.
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Looking back on people who panned the iPad as a "giant iPod Touch..."
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I think that's the problem with manufacturers like blackberry and HP. Neither of them created any tablet specific apps to show off their device's strengths. Worse is that, from reviews I've read, they are shipping out buggy product.
As far as I'm concerned, buggy product isn't worthy of praise. Those who praise said product is drinking the anti-apple kool-aid.
As far as I'm concerned, buggy product isn't worthy of praise. Those who praise said product is drinking the anti-apple kool-aid.
Now, with plenty of beautiful and powerful iPad native apps it is easy to see just how great the iPad experience can be. Not to mention the huge boost in capability multitasking added.
In original form the iPad was not nearly as practical as it has become.
Methinks you're just being too sensitive. Maybe you get mad at this statement because you then have to better justify your purchase. I dunno. Nevertheless, saying the iPad is a big iPod touch or iPhone does not necessarily paint the iPad in a negative light. Fact remains, it basically is. And I own an iPad 2 and an iPhone 4. I use them interchangeably. Right now, I'm using my iPad2. Why? Because it was within reach and my iPhone wasn't. Function wise, I see little difference in the two.
As for the OP, how the heck did HP figure into this argument?
Oh, it's just a post by kas23.
(Do you get it now? I've never said 'the iPad is a big iPod touch' is a pejorative statement; I take issue with people who say 'the iPad is just a big iPod touch' and then act like they said the former, following it up with 'I'm just statin facts, if you disagree it's your problem'.)
Way to whip out one of the oldest threads Eva
Well, that's exactly what it is, except those who said it back then, we're trying to be derogatory, when in fact it's a compliment.
Except it can't run any PC apps, ... but oddly enough, it can run iPod touch apps just fine.
Really, you mean like I can run photoshop, lightroom and other desktop apps?
Sorry but the iPad is a big iPod - at least when this thread was written. Apple has extended the power of iOS to the point where its more powerful, but you still cannot say its a PC(computer).
The iPad has certainly evolved but when all is said and done, it is still running an OS that was designed for a phone and a portable media player, not a full fledged computer, and it shows at times.
Yep, as an iPad Pro owner (and every iPad owner), the iPad Pro is still a giant iPod Touch.
It's funny that all the recent posts shoot a hole in your ipad==PC thing.
Apple has succeeded in adding some more functionality...but it's still a far cry from a PC.
Don't get me wrong...the iPad remains the best tablet in the market still, but it ain't no PC.
Most of the reasons why the iPad doesn't do everything a PC does is that it's locked down on purpose. A jailbroken iPad acts much more like a PC than a regular iPad, but then you also get people posting things like "Help! I accidentally deleted some system files, and now my iPad is a brick! What do I do?"
The other half of the reason is that apps haven't been written or are not as full featured as their PC equivalents. Like there aren't many reasons why Office for iPad couldn't be the same as Office for desktop except Microsoft hasn't gotten around to adding all the features yet.
Ohhhhh, a nostalgic thread
If we're totally honest, the iPad in any shape or form (I'm a Pro owner) is indeed a gigantic iPod Touch.
Sure there are things like the Apple Pencil and such that are differentiators now, but on the whole it's much of a muchness , just bigger.
As for the computer debate, well, it is a computer, so is the iPhone and the Apple Watch amongst other things. They have all of the necessary components to qualify as such. Processor, memory, graphics "card", screen, input options it's just not a computer (PC) in the way most people think of one, such as a desktop computer which is just a different kind of computer. As the definition says;
Computer, Noun: a programmable electronic device designed to accept data, perform prescribed mathematical and logical operations at high speed, and display the results of these operations. Mainframes, desktop and laptop computers, tablets, and smartphones are some of the different types of computers.
Yeah, sorry, it's long and sort of waffling. My medication has kicked in and it makes me ramble on, so we're lucky this isn't 5 pages worth
If we're totally honest, the iPad in any shape or form (I'm a Pro owner) is indeed a gigantic iPod Touch.
Sure there are things like the Apple Pencil and such that are differentiators now, but on the whole it's much of a muchness , just bigger.
As for the computer debate, well, it is a computer, so is the iPhone and the Apple Watch amongst other things. They have all of the necessary components to qualify as such. Processor, memory, graphics "card", screen, input options it's just not a computer (PC) in the way most people think of one, such as a desktop computer which is just a different kind of computer. As the definition says;
Computer, Noun: a programmable electronic device designed to accept data, perform prescribed mathematical and logical operations at high speed, and display the results of these operations. Mainframes, desktop and laptop computers, tablets, and smartphones are some of the different types of computers.
Yeah, sorry, it's long and sort of waffling. My medication has kicked in and it makes me ramble on, so we're lucky this isn't 5 pages worth
Really, you mean like I can run photoshop, lightroom and other desktop apps?
Sorry but the iPad is a big iPod - at least when this thread was written. Apple has extended the power of iOS to the point where its more powerful, but you still cannot say its a PC(computer).
PC doesn't mean Desktop and it doesn't mean x86. How is the iPad not a PC simply because it can't run specific pieces of softwares? Is an Ubuntu computer less of a PC because it can't run specific pieces of software?
Agreed and I don't think I was inferring as much either. With that said, its a common to say desktop OS to differentiate between iOS and a desktop/laptop operating system.
My point is highlighting two applications that work on a desktop (or laptop) that do not work on an iPad.
That is true. I thought you were trying to argue the age old "that's not a PC" thing that this thread had already best to death. I mean, people keep trying to push the argument even after yours. They don't try to argue that it's a limited PC compared to their desktop or laptop, they just argue it isn't one PERIOD.
Nope, I think the iPad is a great tool, but Apple has limitations imposed on iOS that limits its versatility. Now I wouldn't normally use an iPAd as a replacement for lightroom, mostly because my lightroom is almost 500GB, but I think given the precision of the stylus, it could work extremely well with PS
The funny thing is that Microsoft goes in the opposite direction with their Surface phone. The kill the whole ARM platform and offer Windows 10 on X86 for all devices with their Continuum strategy. So one can run very complex applications on the smallest devices out of the very large X86 software pool...we will see what will survive in the end.....
iPad failed to lead in a "Post-PC" world, with consistent decreased sales in the past 2-3 years, and education market ditching the toy in place for more capable/practical machines such as chromebooks.
On a personal note, I tried doing stuff a bit more complex than just facebook/safari/games etc on iPad, and it failed miserably. I really wanted it to work, but after after 5 years, it seems Apple has no vision for this.
On a personal note, I tried doing stuff a bit more complex than just facebook/safari/games etc on iPad, and it failed miserably. I really wanted it to work, but after after 5 years, it seems Apple has no vision for this.
Yeah it's funny how these things manage to sneak into your daily routine and become indispensable. I couldn't be without an iPad either, though I've always had at least one, in one form or another since they were released.
As for my iPhone, jeebus I dread to think what a day without that would be like. Oh the horror
So nothing to do with people upgrading their tablets less often than say a phone because the hardware is more than good enough to last them a few years then.
Or things like Chromebooks being cheaper because they're subsidised by the company who makes the operating system selling the information they gather on their users to the highest bidder.
It's unfortunate that it's unable to suit your needs. There are however many of us who find the opposite. I've gotten significantly more productive on my iPad since I upgraded to an iPad Pro. I spend a lot less time in the office on my Mac and more time in the lounge using the Pro where I can work and be with my family at the same time.
But as with everything, it's not going to suit everyone. Which is why we're so fortunate in the world of technology to have a great deal of choice.
As for my iPhone, jeebus I dread to think what a day without that would be like. Oh the horror
So nothing to do with people upgrading their tablets less often than say a phone because the hardware is more than good enough to last them a few years then.
Or things like Chromebooks being cheaper because they're subsidised by the company who makes the operating system selling the information they gather on their users to the highest bidder.
It's unfortunate that it's unable to suit your needs. There are however many of us who find the opposite. I've gotten significantly more productive on my iPad since I upgraded to an iPad Pro. I spend a lot less time in the office on my Mac and more time in the lounge using the Pro where I can work and be with my family at the same time.
But as with everything, it's not going to suit everyone. Which is why we're so fortunate in the world of technology to have a great deal of choice.
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I work just fine from an iPad Pro. Procreate, Citrix, Office, Evernote, Onenote, Notability, Todoist, soon Scrivener, Coda, Blogging, Transmit. It all works. Then you get the advantages. An OS designed from the ground up to be fast, and sleep instantly. No hot bag, no dead batteries; just use the thumbprint to authenticate and go.
[doublepost=1457785706][/doublepost]And, yes, what is with the thread rez? Lol!
[doublepost=1457785706][/doublepost]And, yes, what is with the thread rez? Lol!
Lol, fine...
"Techs" know that HP makes a fine server.
However, CONSUMERS know that HP makes a craptastic tablet, creaky shoddy notebooks, mostly really bad (at the home use level) printers w/ overpriced ink & annoying useless bundled software.
Sorry if that offends you, but it's the truth.