Lol, fine...
"Techs" know that HP makes a fine server.
However, CONSUMERS know that HP makes a craptastic tablet, creaky shoddy notebooks, mostly really bad (at the home use level) printers w/ overpriced ink & annoying useless bundled software.
Sorry if that offends you, but it's the truth.
Yep, for work I am forced to use an enterprise HP laptop and it, uh, isn't the best experience.