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Well the mazdaspeed3 looks real good too. The only rx8 was just sold and when I inquired about when the next one would come in was, and I quote, "Sometime." :mad:

Wow, that's nasty. The RX8 is a pretty cool car, but it definitely is NOT so rare that the dealer can't get another one. (Unlike asking a Toyota dealer to order you a Supra) :cool:
I'd look for another Mazda dealer in your area. Sounds like the staff there isn't interested in selling cars.
I had a similar experience when I bought my V-dub. The local dealer treated me like I had a "Ask me what my flesh-eating virus can do for YOU" sign around my neck. So I drove ~80 miles to a different VW dealer and was treated like royalty. (which was refreshing, since I'm pretty sure I don't have a flesh-eating virus) ;)
 
They are a chrysler, volvo (mainly), and mazda car dealer. And they are the only mazada car dealership for about 2 hours in any direction.

and well it doesn't really matter about the Rx8 any more as it has been dubed to small by my two passengers.
A used 3 serries BMW may work.
Volvo have some nice cars too.
 
Nonsense

Um, the Tundra with the 5.7L gets 14/18 on 2WD models. None of them show 20MPG highway. The Silverado 1500 gets 15/20 with both the 4.3L V6 and 5.3L V8 on 2WD models. That's with 315HP on the 5.3L.


The spec.B has peak torque at 3.6kRPM.
No Silverado gets 20 on the highway unless it is idling on a trailer. My son-in-law has an 07 1500 Silverado, 2wd, and I drove it for two weeks last summer and I never did better than 16 in almost exclusively highway driving. And that was without running the air! My '05 Z71 Tahoe gets 17 on the highway mostly due to the better (?) aerodynamics of the SUV compared to a pickup. Oh yeah, son-in-law's dad dumped an 07 Tndra after three months - it was a rolling piece of poop. He only put 1800 miles on it in the three months because it spent most of the time in the shop. My Z71 does not remember what the dealership looks like: oil change every 3500 and no other maintenance for 48,000 miles. Best truck I have ever owned. Looking at an 08 with the sat navigation!
 
No Silverado gets 20 on the highway unless it is idling on a trailer. My son-in-law has an 07 1500 Silverado, 2wd, and I drove it for two weeks last summer and I never did better than 16 in almost exclusively highway driving. And that was without running the air! My '05 Z71 Tahoe gets 17 on the highway mostly due to the better (?) aerodynamics of the SUV compared to a pickup. Oh yeah, son-in-law's dad dumped an 07 Tndra after three months - it was a rolling piece of poop. He only put 1800 miles on it in the three months because it spent most of the time in the shop. My Z71 does not remember what the dealership looks like: oil change every 3500 and no other maintenance for 48,000 miles. Best truck I have ever owned. Looking at an 08 with the sat navigation!

if you like your Z71 so much, then why are you looking at a new one? only 48,000 miles
 
No Silverado gets 20 on the highway unless it is idling on a trailer. My son-in-law has an 07 1500 Silverado, 2wd, and I drove it for two weeks last summer and I never did better than 16 in almost exclusively highway driving. And that was without running the air! My '05 Z71 Tahoe gets 17 on the highway mostly due to the better (?) aerodynamics of the SUV compared to a pickup. Oh yeah, son-in-law's dad dumped an 07 Tndra after three months - it was a rolling piece of poop. He only put 1800 miles on it in the three months because it spent most of the time in the shop. My Z71 does not remember what the dealership looks like: oil change every 3500 and no other maintenance for 48,000 miles. Best truck I have ever owned. Looking at an 08 with the sat navigation!

If the Silverado is idling, it is getting 0 MPG because it is not moving. You should of said, only way to get the Silvy to get 20 MPG is having it on a constant downhill and a tailwind. :p My family has a 2002 Chevy Suburban. We use it mainly for highway travel and carrying our boat gear back and forth between the boat and our home for when it is hauled/launched each fall and spring. We also occasionally tow a horse trailer as well. We did avg. 19-20 MPG highway on a road trip to Florida.

PS: Must convince them to get the new Suburban Diesel when it comes time to replace the 2002. :)
 
I'd have to say a VW GTI, but of course, I'm a bit biased :D

hmm I wonder why...

well the final blow has been delt. the only cars are the volvo c30 :confused: and a camry or variant of it. more than likely gona be a 4runner though (which is still nice). The other two passengers have given there verdict and they really do not want a car. well execpt for the volvo c30. Its an odd looking kinda cool looking 2 door hatchback and apperntly they like it
 
hmm I wonder why...

well the final blow has been delt. the only cars are the volvo c30 :confused: and a camry or variant of it. more than likely gona be a 4runner though (which is still nice). The other two passengers have given there verdict and they really do not want a car. well execpt for the volvo c30. Its an odd looking kinda cool looking 2 door hatchback and apperntly they like it

Jumping from a "sports" car to a SUV is IMHO, a big step which would then restart what things you should consider. If the Camry and C30 is the only cars left. Go for the C30. It's not a bad car and it isn't everywhere like the Camry is. Plus, you get the feeling of supporting American since Volvo is owned by Ford. But, if you go SUV( which is stupid IMHO especially a 4Runner sized one) there are quite a few choices. The new Saturn Vue is quite nice along with the CR-V and RAV4. Anything bigger then an Equinox/Highlander sized SUV is a complete waste of money and gas unless you really need the cargo/towing capacity.
 
hmm I wonder why...

well the final blow has been delt. the only cars are the volvo c30 :confused: and a camry or variant of it. more than likely gona be a 4runner though (which is still nice). The other two passengers have given there verdict and they really do not want a car. well execpt for the volvo c30. Its an odd looking kinda cool looking 2 door hatchback and apperntly they like it

i like the 4runner, but it's no where near a sports car though. (as far as speed)
 
i like the 4runner, but it's no where near a sports car though. (as far as speed)

yah, we sat in the cars over the weekend and drove a few. The IS 250 we get a serrious employee discount thanks to my aunt and it drives nicely. The teen figures for the 4runner in the gas department have made it not an option. The camry hybrid is the other option because my sisters are suddenly eco(nomic)-friendly and it also drives well but not as nice as the IS (surprising I know...)

and they don't want to drive a stick when they get the car (nor anybody else in the family for a matter of fact) so I get the flippy paddle gear shifter which brings some of the joy of driving with a stick.

The continueous gear in the camry is neat and the electric only mode too. and they are the same price becuase of a bigger discount on a lexus cars.

incase your wondering its the main factor in getting thoose two cars, its really hard to justify the extra money for other brands.
 
yah, we sat in the cars over the weekend and drove a few. The IS 250 we get a serrious employee discount thanks to my aunt and it drives nicely. The teen figures for the 4runner in the gas department have made it not an option. The camry hybrid is the other option because my sisters are suddenly eco(nomic)-friendly and it also drives well but not as nice as the IS (surprising I know...)

and they don't want to drive a stick when they get the car (nor anybody else in the family for a matter of fact) so I get the flippy paddle gear shifter which brings some of the joy of driving with a stick.

The continueous gear in the camry is neat and the electric only mode too. and they are the same price becuase of a bigger discount on a lexus cars.

incase your wondering its the main factor in getting thoose two cars, its really hard to justify the extra money for other brands.

well, if you're gonna get a camry, i'd get the V6 if you can afford it. still gets great gas mileage also
 
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