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Looking for alternatives to Mac since Arrandale won't come out thread

JoeG4 said:
I like:
Vaio F, Vaio Z, Envy 15, Dell XPS 16.

Go check those out :)
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envy 15 is the best bet if you only want a 15.6 inch screen
dell xps has a ****** graphics card.
vaio f is a piece of junk. quad core with a 330m graphics card which is horrible.
it's also cheaply built. check it out in best buy..its junk
 
gadgetfreaky said:
envy 15 is the best bet if you only want a 15.6 inch screen
dell xps has a ****** graphics card.
vaio f is a piece of junk. quad core with a 330m graphics card which is horrible.
it's also cheaply built. check it out in best buy..its junk
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Yeah, I've had crap experiences with with sony's and dell's and HP's for that matter.
 
I own a Vaio F, I know what I'm talking about. The build quality is better than a MacBook, much better. They look better than the HP Envy too (IMHO), but the Envy is metal.. mm..

Only problem is HP stinks. Really bad. If you're going to go with brands sold at Wal-Mart, at least buy a Dell. lol. Reliability-wise, hrmm......

Hmmm..

If you get an Envy, go for the newer ATI 5830 models, the original 4830 ones are piece of junk. And no, the 5830 isn't really any faster than the 330m.
 
Actually, the 5830 is significantly faster than the 330m. Also, does anyone know how the i7-720qm Envy Gen2 compares to the i7-720qm Gen1 in terms of heat?:confused:
 
JoeG4 said:
I own a Vaio F, I know what I'm talking about. The build quality is better than a MacBook, much better. They look better than the HP Envy too (IMHO), but the Envy is metal.. mm..

Only problem is HP stinks. Really bad. If you're going to go with brands sold at Wal-Mart, at least buy a Dell. lol. Reliability-wise, hrmm......

Hmmm..

If you get an Envy, go for the newer ATI 5830 models, the original 4830 ones are piece of junk. And no, the 5830 isn't really any faster than the 330m.
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the 5830 blows away the 330m

so I wouldn't agree that you know what you are talking about.
it's a piece of junk and your comptuer is made of cheap plastic. not even in the same league of build quality as a mbp. not even close with a horrible graphics card.
 
My computer is a terrible piece of junk.

I hope that made you feel better.

You need a computer with a real processor.
 
JoeG4 said:
My computer is a terrible piece of junk.

I hope that made you feel better.

You need a computer with a real processor.
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I've had a computer with that processor and about the same card.
quad cores are really not that good. In terms of responsiveness, it really wasn't that much faster than my 2.5 year old mbp. at 2.6.

most software is not designed for quad core, so not big surprise, not a big performance increase. By the time your quad core is useful, they'll be much better quad cores out there. that was my conculusion after buying one so I returned it. you should too.
 
Oh speed? I was talking about the build quality so you'd shut up XD

Though Sony's CSR is sending out an onsite tech to fix my computer's issues. That said, performance wise the machine is amazing, and I've used it side by side against many MacBook Pros, where it wiped the floor with them.

A 2.53Ghz Core 2 will get its ass kicked. The 9400M is a Victorian era relic in this day, you'd be nuts to buy a MBP that doesn't at least have the 3.06GHz Core 2 Duo, and those cost over $2000.

I didn't have $2000, I would have purchased a $1600 MacBook Pro 15", and those are the 2.5ghz models that actually cost about $1800 after tax, $300 more than what I paid for the Sony.

For $300 less, I got:
* 1080p screen, really wanted and kinda needed that.
* i7 quad (instead of 2.53ghz Core 2)
* Geforce 330m (instead of 9400m)
* Blu ray drive (instead of dvd burning only)
* 500gb HD (instead of 320)

What I didn't get:
* 0.6" thicker at the fattest end
* 1.3-1.4lbs heavier (than a 15", but 0.3lb heavier than a 17")
* aluminum unibody
* glass trackpad
* extremely annoying glass screen
* the battery hour that gets OVER 8000 HOURS!

;)

The Sony is a pretty good looking machine, too. It took me a while but the look has grown on me, lol. Uhhh...

For 90% of people looking to buy a 13" MacBook Pro, a 16.4" Sony quadcore laptop is ridiculous overkill and they will hate it.

Aside from the defects (the dead pixels on the LCD in particular), which will be taken care of next week (thanks Sony), ON SITE something that Apple almost never does, this has been a great laptop.

Anyway, your 2.5 year old MBP is a victorian era relic, btw. The only reason I can come up with that your machine felt slow, is you had the 5400RPM base model hard drive. I have this too, but I had a 5400rpm 500gb in my MacBook too, no big deal.

Aside from that, the i7 DESTROYS Any core 2 laptops I've used, including every MacBook Pro apple has made.
 
JoeG4 said:
Oh speed? I was talking about the build quality so you'd shut up XD

Though Sony's CSR is sending out an onsite tech to fix my computer's issues. That said, performance wise the machine is amazing, and I've used it side by side against many MacBook Pros, where it wiped the floor with them.

A 2.53Ghz Core 2 will get its ass kicked. The 9400M is a Victorian era relic in this day, you'd be nuts to buy a MBP that doesn't at least have the 3.06GHz Core 2 Duo, and those cost over $2000.

I didn't have $2000, I would have purchased a $1600 MacBook Pro 15", and those are the 2.5ghz models that actually cost about $1800 after tax, $300 more than what I paid for the Sony.

For $300 less, I got:
* 1080p screen, really wanted and kinda needed that.
* i7 quad (instead of 2.53ghz Core 2)
* Geforce 330m (instead of 9400m)
* Blu ray drive (instead of dvd burning only)
* 500gb HD (instead of 320)

What I didn't get:
* 0.6" thicker at the fattest end
* 1.3-1.4lbs heavier (than a 15", but 0.3lb heavier than a 17")
* aluminum unibody
* glass trackpad
* extremely annoying glass screen
* the battery hour that gets OVER 8000 HOURS!

;)

The Sony is a pretty good looking machine, too. It took me a while but the look has grown on me, lol. Uhhh...

For 90% of people looking to buy a 13" MacBook Pro, a 16.4" Sony quadcore laptop is ridiculous overkill and they will hate it.

Aside from the defects (the dead pixels on the LCD in particular), which will be taken care of next week (thanks Sony), ON SITE something that Apple almost never does, this has been a great laptop.

Anyway, your 2.5 year old MBP is a victorian era relic, btw. The only reason I can come up with that your machine felt slow, is you had the 5400RPM base model hard drive. I have this too, but I had a 5400rpm 500gb in my MacBook too, no big deal.

Aside from that, the i7 DESTROYS Any core 2 laptops I've used, including every MacBook Pro apple has made.
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you said "You need a computer with a real processor" so I responded to that.
I've had that chip. unless you are running apps that can take advantage. it's a waste of money. I returned mine. you should too.
 
I'm currently on my Asus G73JH-A1....greatest laptop ever... other than it's huge size lol.... SO glad I didn't wait to see if the new MBPs were coming out
 
This is as close to real-world performance testing I could find.

Tell ya what, give me a challenge. :)
 
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