Los Angeles Residents Able to Add COVID Vaccination Proof to Apple Wallet

[Carlson-online]

That 1% is currently 330,000 Americans that did not have to die this year.

Nobody is disputing that it is more deadly than what we have endemically now. What people are saying is the response is disproportionate to the situation. However, if you look a little deeper into the statistics, there's more nuance to it.
330,000 perfectly health people did not died this year because of it.

But excess death has occurred, absolutely, and some of those preventable. But consider the additional non-covid deaths that will be caused or have been caused by the cause of action taken. Increased mental health issues, increased poverty, increased unemployment will all make large long term effects, decreasing life expectancies for a lot more than 330,000.

 

[Scottsoapbox]

Considering you have to provide schools with immunization records.... I don't think it violates HIPAA.....

True, SOME schools require immunization records. However, there is a difference with opting into a school that requires that and needing it to travel, go to a concert, and more: "Bloomberg speculates that it could be used as proof of vaccination to access flights, concerts, and more."

What good is "privacy" if I have to share it everywhere I go?

AND the real question: if everyone that wants to be vaccinated is vaccinated (e.g., all the vulnerable people, and scared people) Why do we need to police everyone's vaccines? At that point someone not getting it is ONLY putting themselves at risk so why do we care? There is no - that a-- hole is going to kill my grandmother at that point. Your grandmother (and everyone else) has been vaccinated. So what's the issue? What are we taking away people's rights for then?

 

[citysnaps]

Is this Nazi Germany?


Happy to have vaccines but needing to provide documentation to go about your daily life is insane (especially given the <1% mortality rate).

I hear you bro... Next thing you know you'll have to present "documentation" to register to vote, drink at a bar if you look underage, or cash a check at the bank. The horror!

 

[JM]

I'm wondering how far this proof of Vaccination will go? How many things in society will require proof of vaccination to participate/partake/enjoy?

While I don't think there will be widespread "Mark of the Beast" type societal requirements; I'm also not going to be surprised if there's a governmental requirement to display vaccination proof to fly, eat at restaurants, go to sporting events, visit hospitals, visit schools, etc.

-Curious

 

[Romey-Rome]

Once they aren’t allowed on flights, inside concerts or sporting events, etc. without documentation of vaccination we’ll see how quick they change their tune.

IEDs are back on the menu bois!!!

 

[Gasu E.]

Is this Nazi Germany?


Happy to have vaccines but needing to provide documentation to go about your daily life is insane (especially given the <1% mortality rate).

Did you object to airport security, or security at concerts or stadium? Do you feel it is Nazi-like to prevent you from bringing in bottles, liquids, or guns? You should have spoken up then about your "rights". This would be just one more check in those venues to protect the safety of other participants.

 

[Scottsoapbox]

This doesn't violate HIPAA though.

"Bloomberg speculates that it could be used as proof of vaccination to access flights, concerts, and more."

What amount of privacy does one have if one has to share it everywhere I go?

 

[BaltimoreMediaBlog]

California has proven only ONE thing. That they know how to successfully feel like they're doing a great job during their own dumpster fire! They've proven that lockdowns do not work, that outdoor dining is safer than indoor house parties, which they're obviously all having instead as COVID infections skyrocket! You reap what you sow and boy are they doing a lot of reaping right now. And they've proven that kids are safer in school than anywhere else!

How dare you eat outside you psychopath? Only Tom Cruise is allowed that privilege! Who do you think you are?

 

[Carlson-online]

All rights come with limitations. Your right to swing your fist ends at my face. You don’t have the right to infect other people with your disease. Wanting to is sociopathic.

a) Me and family all had it in the last 2 months during a lockdown. Everybody isolated correctly and noone let the house for 21 days.
b) We will all be getting vacinated when it's our turn.
c) Face masks are used on every trip out.

Nowhere in my comments did I say I wanted to or tried to infect people. I just disagree with having to show papers to go about my daily life in a socially distant and covid-secure manner.

 

[quagmire]

True, SOME schools require immunization records. However, there is a difference with opting into a school that requires that and needing it to travel, go to a concert, and more: "Bloomberg speculates that it could be used as proof of vaccination to access flights, concerts, and more."

What good is "privacy" if I have to share it everywhere I go?

AND the real question: if everyone that wants to be vaccinated is vaccinated (e.g., all the vulnerable people, and scared people) Why do we need to police everyone's vaccines? At that point someone not getting it is ONLY putting themselves at risk so why do we care? There is no - that a-- hole is going to kill my grandmother at that point. Your grandmother (and everyone else) has been vaccinated. So what's the issue? What are we taking away people's rights for then?

You don't have the right to board a plane, go into a concert venue, or enter another country. If they want to deny you service because you don't have the vaccine and cause a spread of a fatal disease they can. You opt into traveling by plane, boat, train, or bus. You opt to go to a concert. You opt to go to a different country.

 

[Kabeyun]

Yup . Nazi Germany all over again but rolling out on a global scale. Except for instead of Jews the so called anti-vaxers (people who question things and care about their health) are labeled and denied service. Oh and shamed to hell as well.

Good gracious. Unless you live in a pile of leaves, eat tree bark, and rub yourself with mud to heal disease, you rely on the same scientific method that gave us vaccines. Just calm the hell down. Nazis. Christ. Yeah, we’re planning on putting anti-vaxxers in concentration camps. Take a pill. Or a vaccine.

 

[IG88]

restaurants

LOL. I hope some restaurants try forcing people to drag their immunization records around with them. I'll enjoy watching their going out of business parties.

 

[mariusignorello]

I'm wondering how far this proof of Vaccination will go? How many things in society will require proof of vaccination to participate/partake/enjoy?

While I don't think there will be widespread "Mark of the Beast" type societal requirements; I'm also not going to be surprised if there's a governmental requirement to display vaccination proof to fly, eat at restaurants, go to sporting events, visit hospitals, visit schools, etc.

-Curious

The fact that you brought it up shows that chances are it’s already crossed someone else’s mind too.

They’ll take it as far as they can get away with. To those of you head over heels for this, have fun bowing down to your government.

 

[madrigal77]

going to be difficult convincing anti vaxxers to get one

Just because someone doesn’t trust a vaccine that was only tested for 2 months, it doesn’t make them “anti vax”. I’ll be happy to get it in a year or two once it’s tested properly.

 

[Scottsoapbox]

Did you object to airport security, or security at concerts or stadium? Do you feel it is Nazi-like to prevent you from bringing in bottles, liquids, or guns? You should have spoken up then about your "rights". This would be just one more check in those venues to protect the safety of other participants.

But it's NOT protecting the other participants. The other participants have been vaccinated so they are not at risk.

So why steal someone's privacy without any danger to others to justify it?

(Most Apple customers are pro-privacy)

 

[PickUrPoison]

a) Me and family all had it in the last 2 months during a lockdown. Everybody isolated correctly and noone let the house for 21 days.
b) We will all be getting vacinated when it's our turn.
c) Face masks are used on every trip out.

Nowhere in my comments did I say I wanted to or tried to infect people. I just disagree with having to show papers to go about my daily life in a socially distant and covid-secure manner.

I didn’t mean you specifically, and I already edited the post to reflect that. I ignored the stupid Nazi comment since you must be unaware of what the word means.

 

[BaltimoreMediaBlog]

California is getting close to being Russia. My Russian friend told me that after they released him from the hospital, the government warned him that if he leaves his apartment in the next two weeks, he will be arrested and jailed for a very long time in Siberia! But at least, unlike China, they did not nail him into his apartment to die. So, there's some good in the world.

 

[Scottsoapbox]

If everyone that wants to be vaccinated is vaccinated, why do we need to police everyone's vaccines?

There is no "danger to others" justification at that point, so why police it with "proof of vaccine papers"?

 

[Carlson-online]

But it's NOT protecting the other participants. The other participants have been vaccinated so they are not at risk.

So why steal someone's privacy without any danger to others to justify it?

(Most Apple customers are pro-privacy)

^^ This.

There is a very fine line between where we are now and totalitarianism. A lot smaller than people realise. Humans Rights exist, as does the right to privacy and some of the suggestion coming out recently, like this are worry some.

 

[Carlson-online]

I didn’t mean you specifically, and I already edited the post to reflect that. I ignored the stupid Nazi comment since you must be unaware of what the word means.

As someone who lost all 4 grandparents to the war, i understand completely.

 

[jsnuff1]

Did you object to airport security, or security at concerts or stadium? Do you feel it is Nazi-like to prevent you from bringing in bottles, liquids, or guns? You should have spoken up then about your "rights". This would be just one more check in those venues to protect the safety of other participants.

Im not being injected with a highly experimental peice of hacked RNA that hijackes my cells and tell it to make a peice of a virus and has a billion ways of going wrong when I get checked for security at a stadium.

Sample size of a couple thousand is not enough to amplify RNA printing error rate...billions of samples its a statistical improbability of a G being switch to an A somewhere in the RNA sequence, and who the **** know what that will produce in the wrong spot.

If anyone even thinks about enforcing this there will be plenty of ways to forge it.

 

[quagmire]

If everyone that wants to be vaccinated is vaccinated, why do we need to police everyone's vaccines?

There is no "danger to others" justification at that point, so why police it with "proof of vaccine papers"?

How about the ones who can't be vaccinated? It's why those people rely on herd immunity. That's the danger to others justification comes back.

 

[pmbooks]

Anyone have a screenshot of such Wallet proof of vax?

 

[mariusignorello]

Make sure when you get to that restaurant that asks for your papers you show them your bank account balance at the door as well. They don’t trust that you’ll be able to pay the tab. Then it’ll affect the restaurant’s business and the employees getting paid, so it’s for the public good. You don’t get privacy when others are affected so stop complaining.

 

[quagmire]

Im not being injected with a highly experimental peice of hacked RNA that hijackes my cells and tell it to make a peice of a virus and has a billion ways of going wrong when I get checked for security at a stadium.

If anyone even thinks about enforcing this there will be plenty of ways to forge it.

So is your issue how fast this vaccine was developed and with time you will get vaccinated if safe, or you believe the myth they cause autism, are used by the government to control you, and other conspiracy theories?