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The fact that you brought it up shows that chances are it’s already crossed someone else’s mind too.

They’ll take it as far as they can get away with. To those of you head over heels for this, have fun bowing down to your government.
Bowing down to your government lol.

Have you ever read the criminal codes in your city/state/country? There are thousands of things that you are already “Bowing down” to 🤣

The government trying to stop a pandemic is more important than you being frightened of it. It’s called public health for a reason.
 
Did you object to airport security, or security at concerts or stadium? Do you feel it is Nazi-like to prevent you from bringing in bottles, liquids, or guns? You should have spoken up then about your "rights". This would be just one more check in those venues to protect the safety of other participants.

All a passport would do is show you've been vaccinated, and therefore are unlikely to be made ill by someone else. It is not yet known whether the vaccinations will mean that you can no longer carry the virus, it might that still happens, as has happened with others in the past. If that turns out to be true, it could actually be more dangerous to let vaccinated people in, as they are likely to start disregarding other safety measures, such as hand washing, mask wearing and social distancing. All that have an excellent effect at reducing transmission
 
The Bible does warn us about the mark of the beast: “so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark”.

Having to provide proof of vaccination isn’t something I personally have a problem with but it’s also clear as day that this is just laying the foundation for what’s to come. Baby steps, to gradually condition us. Anyone who fails to see it is either a fool or willfully blind.
 
Bowing down to your government lol.

Have you ever read the criminal codes in your city/state/country? There are thousands of things that you are already “Bowing down” to 🤣

The government trying to stop a pandemic is more important than you being frightened of it. It’s called public health for a reason.
Fine, but if they can trust us we don’t need papers to prove we got a shot. This clearly shows a blatant lack of trust in its citizens.
 
AND the real question: if everyone that wants to be vaccinated is vaccinated (e.g., all the vulnerable people, and scared people) Why do we need to police everyone's vaccines? At that point someone not getting it is ONLY putting themselves at risk so why do we care? There is no - that a-- hole is going to kill my grandmother at that point. Your grandmother (and everyone else) has been vaccinated. So what's the issue? What are we taking away people's rights for then?
Vaccinations help with herd immunity (which of course has yet to be proved with this particular virus), and herd immunity helps protect people who are immunocompromised or otherwise unable to receive vaccinations. So the jerk may not kill your grandmother, but he may kill an infant who is too young to vaccinate or your wife who is taking chemo.

That said, I'm not planning to be first in line for the vaccine but will consider it after a year or so and a larger population has received it.
 
Remember HIPAA?

Back when we viewed medical knowledge of one's body as DEEPLY PERSONAL information?

Amazing, how quickly a crisis throws out our rights.

Did you miss the part that explains the data will be stored on "HIPAA-compliant servers"? Health information is strongly protected under federal law, but obviously that data must be transmitted to and stored by 3rd parties to facilitate care. As long as the patient consents—which is clearly required here—there is no HIPAA violation.
 
Did you miss the part that explains the data will be stored on "HIPAA-compliant servers"? Health information is strongly protected under federal law, but obviously that data must be transmitted to and stored by 3rd parties to facilitate care. As long as the patient consents—which is clearly required here—there is no HIPAA violation.
If people I insist on seeing proof of vaccination as a condition of any other freedom then yes, there is a de facto HIPPA protection violation
 
He’s questioning the efficacy and the way it targets the cells, not “mind control”. Read again.

Point being does he question if this vaccine is safe or do they buy into conspiracy theories about vaccines that include mind control.

I don't mind the people who want to wait and see if there are long term effects of this vaccine given the speed it was developed, but will get it once proved to be safe.
 
Next up, they will be specified on everyone's Drivers License !

As I understand it, the vaccine is ONLY good for about 18-24 months of protection, so AFTER that, another round will be needed.

This could go on for quite some time, meaning perhaps the rest of our lives, especially with the mutations.

Also, different subject, but somewhat related, President Wilson apparently got the virus back then, & it greatly affected his brain.

Food for thought.
 
Gattaca is an awesome movie. But this isn't quite the same thing...
No I mean in the movie how people are discriminated against in life because employer (or whoever) can see what someone's genetic makeup is like. I'm just expanding the current situation into a fictional universe where people could be discriminated against if they aren't vaccinated.

-just being imaginative, haha
 
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Yeah sure. So you honor your grandparents by likening the government requiring vaccinations for certain group activities to their genocide?
It is actually okay to question our government now and again, you know—they ARE human after all, and, like you and me, prone to mistakes.

Plus, anytime you see such censorship as has been wheeled out against opposing views (to public health policy, to vaccinations, etc), you can be sure that science has left the room and something else is at play.
 
Yup . Nazi Germany all over again but rolling out on a global scale. Except for instead of Jews the so called anti-vaxers (people who question things and care about their health) are labeled and denied service. Oh and shamed to hell as well.

Lol oh boy, here come the hackneyed and idiotic Nazi references. Mass exterminations are totally the same thing as stopping a global pandemic that has already killed millions and will not stop until it kills tens of millions more.
 
Vaccinations help with herd immunity (which of course has yet to be proved with this particular virus), and herd immunity helps protect people who are immunocompromised or otherwise unable to receive vaccinations. So the jerk may not kill your grandmother, but he may kill an infant who is too young to vaccinate or your wife who is taking chemo.

That said, I'm not planning to be first in line for the vaccine but will consider it after a year or so and a larger population has received it.
I'll give you the wife on chemo as a good edge case, but the infant is a stretch as A) covid mortality is extremely rare in children and B) new moms are tyrannical about protecting new babies from germs (even in the before covid times).

But with immunocompromised edge cases, the question becomes whose responsibility is it to keep someone like that safe? Is it the individual or all of society's responsibility? And to what level? To the point that we enforcing vaccination record checks to go to a concert or travel or shop at the grocery store? We can't eliminate risk in life. As tempting as the illusion of control is to many.
 
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