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Lost TV show (Part 2) -- includes spoilers on show nights

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mscriv said:
My wife said the final scene will be Hurly in the psych hospital and we'll realize that he truly is "crazy" and the entire show has been a strange trip into his psychosis. Not quite the "Newhart" dream, but similar. I don't think so, but it's plausible I guess. :)
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if this is the way it ends i will take a bat to my TV!!:mad:
 
mscriv said:
My wife said the final scene will be Hurly in the psych hospital and we'll realize that he truly is "crazy" and the entire show has been a strange trip into his psychosis. Not quite the "Newhart" dream, but similar. I don't think so, but it's plausible I guess. :)
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More like the St. Elsewhere finale.
 
If there's any value in trying to "solve" Lost -- as if there's a puzzle to reveal the show's ultimate finale -- we need to think more along the lines of basic cultural archetypes.

What is the island but a metaphor for isolation ... Is Jacob supposed to be the omniscient god who stands apart from his creation? Is Ben to represent Man, resentful that God is not playing a more visible role in his own life?

Can we find metaphorical meanings in each of the castaways? It struck me at some point this season where each character seemed to play a role ... Kate the Tracker ... Jack the Healer ... Locke the Shaman ... Sawyer the Con man ... It's almost like they're the Justice League ...

mt
 
spoilers about Juliet. highlight if you want to read.

some sad news potentially for Juliet fans. it has been revealed that she will not be a regular on the show next year. my interpretation is she is dead for good but will be involved in a few flashbacks possibly.
 
Bah, Had a bunch of stuff quoted and now Safari crashed after flipping through the last 10 pages @ 40 posts per page to get caught up.

My theory, we've been watching the pieces move as fLocke or whatever you want to call him found his loophole to kill Jacob, Jacob has been using those he's touched, Sayid, Jack, Hurley, Kate, Sawyer, and the real Locke, to thwart fLocke's attempt.

If the H-bomb worked then fLocke's loophole goes away since flight 815 never crashes... and much like Frodo, Jacob Lives!

The next season could spend all 16 episodes explaining the conflict and moves back and forth between Jacob and fLocke.

As for Christian's body, early on there was speculation that one of the bodies that Eko pulled from the water in the tailie's section was Christian's. Which would mean that the Christain we've seen on the island is just fLocke's attempt to manipulate others in Jacob's name.
 
i was having a talk with a friend of mine about Jacob and he mentioned something very interesting about Richard's urgency to quarantine/burry the bodies of those killed by the DHARMA Initiative. We were wondering why he cared so much to do this. As we know Jacob's Nemesis and Smoky(not convinced that they are one in the same) can inhabit bodies or appear as those who are dead. This could be why Richard is eager to get them back.

Also i wonder if Jacob has the ability to appear as dead people as well.
 
I was reading an old Guitar Player magazine the other day and I was reading a story about the 40th anniversary of the Beatles Revolver. The album was written just as the group was starting their interest in LSD. It refers to John (I think) had just read a book about LSD by Timothy Leary and Richard Alpert. This guy. Maybe some folks have already pondered this, but I hadn't heard this connection before. Wild!

mt
 
Some info on long lost Claire

lostspoilers.com said:
Question: I miss Claire on Lost. Emilie de Ravin is such a great actress. Will she be back for all of next season? --Kelly
Ausiello: Yes! After sitting out last season, de Ravin will return as a full-time series regular for Lost's sixth and final season, Team Darlton confirms. "Damon and I are very excited to bring Claire back to the show," says Carlton Cuse, "and even more excited for people to experience just how she will return." And even more exciting that that? Experiencing Doc Jensen's theory on how she'll return. Take it away, DJ:

"Any scenario that brings Claire back to Lost must address the mysterious circumstances of her disappearance at the end of Season 4, in which many of us were led to believe that she was as dead -- or rather, undead -- as the Ghost Christian that's been haunting The Island since Season 1. So here's one thought: Juliet changed time in the season finale by detonating Jughead, and Season 6 will tell the story of the new timeline, one in which Claire is alive. Another thought: In light of the revelation that John Locke was actually a supernatural impostor for half of Season 5, perhaps in Season 6, we'll get a storyline in which Claire just emerges out of the jungle, with no memory of what happened to her -- just like Season 1 -- and we and the castaways will be left to wonder: Is this the real Claire or another impostor infiltrating them a la Locke? Heck, maybe that's going to be major idea of next season: Who's really alive and who's really (un)dead? It really will be the fabled! zombie season of Lost!" Thanks a million, Doc!
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mysterytramp said:
I was reading an old Guitar Player magazine the other day and I was reading a story about the 40th anniversary of the Beatles Revolver. The album was written just as the group was starting their interest in LSD. It refers to John (I think) had just read a book about LSD by Timothy Leary and Richard Alpert. This guy. Maybe some folks have already pondered this, but I hadn't heard this connection before. Wild!
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Damon has said that Richard Alpert's name is based off of this dude. There have been a few references to LSD in the show, the most notable is when they interrogate Sayid. My Dad told me that the drug was tested as a truth serum in the 1950's - this seems to mirror some of Alpert's testing for alternate uses of LSD.

An interesting side note - the team that studied this was composed of not only Alpert and Leary, but also the English author Aldous Huxley. Huxley wrote 'A Brave New World' - a bleak vision of the future where personal identity and family no longer exist. Also, children are no longer born, they are bred - mirroring the Island's reproductive issues.

I just read this work for a class last year. From Wikipedia:
Contrary to the most popular optimist utopian novels of the time, Huxley sought to provide a frightening vision of the future. Huxley referred to Brave New World as a "negative utopia"
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I think a negative utopia (dystopia) is a pretty good way to describe what the Island might be. I'm just throwing things out there right now, I haven't given this any thought. It's interesting to see the parallels, though.
 
barr08 said:
I think a negative utopia (dystopia) is a pretty good way to describe what the Island might be. I'm just throwing things out there right now, I haven't given this any thought. It's interesting to see the parallels, though.
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i agree that for some it is a dystopia, but for others i would say that it IS a utopia. Like Locke obviously really enjoyed it i mean he may or may not be dead as a result but when he was alive he enjoyed it for the most part. Bernard and Rose seem to be very happy their. so i think you are half right. for some it has obviously sucked…a lot. others, im sure, are in utopia.

at least for now. maybe it becomes hell for everyone.:eek:
 
jecapaga said:
Lost will kill epic television, claims producer. Nice to know there seems to be some confirmation of a real ending to the show
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that's interesting choice of words. by kill i guess he means it will be killER. it would have been better to say will be "the last of because it's going to be so bad@$$" or something. initially i thought they meant that it is going to be awful and kill the genre.
 
Just wondering if anyone has recently seen the episode where Mr. Eko dies? I found it very interesting how at the end of the episode his brother, Yemi, asks if he is ready to ask for forgiveness and when Eko refuses he replies " you speak to me as if i am your brother" and then smokzilla kills him. It made me think that Esau originally wanted Mr. Eko instead of Locke but couldnt get him to cave in so he killed him. Plus, as he dies Eko whispers to John "you're next" (which they go on to misunderstand) but does that mean that Locke was never first choice? Which plays romantically with the whole story of John Locke.
Take a look and let me know what you think.

Plus, throughout the episode, the smoke monster keeps trying to creep up on Eko but turns back every time, particularly when Locke shows up? Sneaking around, staying hidden, striking only when it's clear, does this mean the monster can think for itself?? I think i'm more confused than ever.
 
That's a good point. It'd be interesting to see what connects John and Eko, or what they share. Maybe its something about faith?
 
Nieval said:
Just wondering if anyone has recently seen the episode where Mr. Eko dies? I found it very interesting how at the end of the episode his brother, Yemi, asks if he is ready to ask for forgiveness and when Eko refuses he replies " you speak to me as if i am your brother" and then smokzilla kills him. It made me think that Esau originally wanted Mr. Eko instead of Locke but couldnt get him to cave in so he killed him. Plus, as he dies Eko whispers to John "you're next" (which they go on to misunderstand) but does that mean that Locke was never first choice? Which plays romantically with the whole story of John Locke.
Take a look and let me know what you think.

Plus, throughout the episode, the smoke monster keeps trying to creep up on Eko but turns back every time, particularly when Locke shows up? Sneaking around, staying hidden, striking only when it's clear, does this mean the monster can think for itself?? I think i'm more confused than ever.
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very cool observation. the hitch in it for me is im not completely convinced that, as you call him, Esau and the smoke monster are one in the same. but i have always thought that Eko and the monster's relationship was interesting. still one of my favorite scenes is when eko essentially stares down the monster.

They have said that this last season is going to be more like the first one. i think season's 3, 4, and 5 were kind of like a distraction. they revealed a lot of cool stuff but the clues to how the show is going to end are in my opinion in the first two seasons.
 
This hit me the other day -- and I wouldn't be surprised if others have seen it, too, so pardon me if this is well trod ground.

But the island, really the islands, could be seen like a brain ... There are two sides, one populated by the Dharma Initiative, that is the rational side. The other has Jacob, the Anubis statue, and if the metaphor is right, it's the feeling island.

Dharma has "stations" almost like there are parts of the brain set aside for specific functions.

I'm not sure what this means (or even if I have my Lost geography 100 percent), but it is kinda weird. Plus Oceanic 815 crashed on one island and Ajira 316 on the other.

mt
 
jecapaga said:
Lost will kill epic television, claims producer. Nice to know there seems to be some confirmation of a real ending to the show


I think it's just the journalist that, in a way, mischaracterized what the authors claims by using the word 'kill'. the author said that, mainly because of production cost and the direction the industry is going, it will be one of the last 'big' shows.

http://io9.com/5283602/lost-will-kill-epic-television-claims-producer
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Nieval said:
Just wondering if anyone has recently seen the episode where Mr. Eko dies? I found it very interesting how at the end of the episode his brother, Yemi, asks if he is ready to ask for forgiveness and when Eko refuses he replies " you speak to me as if i am your brother" and then smokzilla kills him. It made me think that Esau originally wanted Mr. Eko instead of Locke but couldnt get him to cave in so he killed him. Plus, as he dies Eko whispers to John "you're next" (which they go on to misunderstand) but does that mean that Locke was never first choice? Which plays romantically with the whole story of John Locke.
Take a look and let me know what you think.

Plus, throughout the episode, the smoke monster keeps trying to creep up on Eko but turns back every time, particularly when Locke shows up? Sneaking around, staying hidden, striking only when it's clear, does this mean the monster can think for itself?? I think i'm more confused than ever.
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very nice. I think when all is well and done, it will be cool to rewatch the entire series and 'discover' all the hints that were there.
 
Don't panic said:
very nice. I think when all is well and done, it will be cool to rewatch the entire series and 'discover' all the hints that were there.
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What will be cool is watching the complete series DVD or Blu Ray with explanation and commentary by the creators. No matter how they do it, I just want some final answers straight from their mouths.
 
mscriv said:
What will be cool is watching the complete series DVD or Blu Ray with explanation and commentary by the creators. No matter how they do it, I just want some final answers straight from their mouths.
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My fiance and i are hosting our Lost Marathon in a month. Going to have some friends over and watch seasons 1-5. It is a really good time. We all talk about it, theorize, and argue and yell, in good fun of course. i highly recommend it. This show is so epic.
 
ViciousShadow21 said:
My fiance and i are hosting our Lost Marathon in a month. Going to have some friends over and watch seasons 1-5. It is a really good time. We all talk about it, theorize, and argue and yell, in good fun of course. i highly recommend it. This show is so epic.
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How long will it take you to watch the entire series? It's almost three days of straight watching....
 
spinnerlys said:
How long will it take you to watch the entire series? It's almost three days of straight watching....
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It really varies. Last year when we did seasons 1 thru 4 it took four and a half days to watch 86 episodes. With the addition of season 5 and another 17 episodes to equal 103, it'll probably take an extra day and a half. but if we really get into it and have enough coffee we might do it faster. we have planned this for a while. i took a week off of working (it's great being semi-selfemployed) the fiance is taking the summer off before her final year of school anyway and the other 5 ppl are taking vacations haha. so we'll have a week to do it.

themoonisdown09 said:
I watched season 1-4 plus the first half of season 5 in 3 weeks. It's awesome to watch them all together.
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it really is! like a really long movie that doesnt get boring somehow. so good.
 
ViciousShadow21 said:
It really varies. Last year when we did seasons 1 thru 4 it took four and a half days to watch 86 episodes. With the addition of season 5 and another 17 episodes to equal 103, it'll probably take an extra day and a half. but if we really get into it and have enough coffee we might do it faster. we have planned this for a while. i took a week off of working (it's great being semi-selfemployed) the fiance is taking the summer off before her final year of school anyway and the other 5 ppl are taking vacations haha. so we'll have a week to do it.



it really is! like a really long movie that doesnt get boring somehow. so good.
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i'm planning to do the same next winter, to get ready for the grand finale.
but to take vacation just for Lost. that's some dedication!
make sure to come back and share any insights from your communal brainstorming
 
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