Don't forget to lump in Fringe in there too. Similar themes explored in the finale, and even a common actor (Nimoy).
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Lost TV show (Part 2) -- includes spoilers on show nights
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Don't forget to lump in Fringe in there too. Similar themes explored in the finale, and even a common actor (Nimoy).
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Looks like Fringe is the new LOST, as the show had definitely taken a left turn and there's a war brewing between the alternate universes. We know Peter was killed in the current universe, so his father must have taken him from the alternate universe. But that's for another thread! LOL
In LOST, I do think that we will see the flashback of Esau? and all the deception that he's tried. I do think it's possible that Christian, fLocke and possibly others to manipulate the survivors that landed on the island.
Agreed that one of the rules was that if you moved the island, you could not come back. In the Hospital scene where he talked to Ilana, she said I'm not allowed to go back (or something along those lines - I need to watch again). So maby Jacob broke his own rules, along with Ben.
In terms of the flashbacks with Jacob, I never really thought about him saving Sayid (by avoiding Sayid being hit by the car). He touched Sayid, but didn't really say much at all to him.
what i find interesting is that he didnt try and save both of them. its almost like he wanted Nadia to die so that Ben would be able to turn him into an assassin so he could then have Ilana pretend to be a bounty hunter so she could get him to be on that plane. if this is the case that's kind of messed up. it makes me wonder if he really is a good guy or he just likes manipulating people to the island for his own social experiments.
Do we know that Locke was "healed" after the fall? Perhaps he just survived and Jacob woke him up. Had he "healed" him, would Locke have still been stuck in a wheelchair? I don't think the healing happened until he got to the Island. Could be wrong though.
And ooh, do we know that the person we saw visiting the Losties was even Jacob, could have been Esau looking like Jacob, trying to find a loophole...
And ooh, do we know that the person we saw visiting the Losties was even Jacob, could have been Esau looking like Jacob, trying to find a loophole...
Jacob didn't heal Locke, he brought him back to life... that's why he was still paralyzed.
Being in a wheelchair was part of his journey. From that point on, John's hardest obstacles were made worse with recurring leg problems. It's all part of the plan.
I have been thinking this too. Though his demeanor mirrors that which we saw in the first scene, it could very well be his counterpoint messing w/ the future for his own advancement.
like i said above, he was getting them to come to the island. he knew that in order for Locke to come he would need to stay paralyzed so he would want to go on the walkabout. this lead him flying to Australia in the first place. i think that if Jacob had totally healed him the series of events would not have lead him to the island.
Where does that leave Matthew Abaddon? He was the one who told Locke to go on the walkabout. Maybe Jacob told him to.
Possibly, but Abaddon was killed off-island. Of course it's always possible that he didn't (or couldn't) die.
Or is there a real Abaddon and a Jacob-Abaddon?
Well, we're assuming that Jacob can't die off-Island. Perhaps the reason he and Richard only go back to RL so infrequently is because they can indeed die off the Island (think God in Dogma).
However, I don't think we've seen the last of Abaddon.
thats true. i forgot about Abbadon. i thought that it was pretty clear that he works for Widmore. if that is the case then i dont know how it all ties in. I think Jacob knew the point in time that set a series of events in motion. He knew that if Locke was paralyzed from the waist down that it would eventually lead him to the island. but if he had healed him completely he would not have ended up on the island. It's like in Back to The Future. McFly's accident with the Rolls Royce while racing Needles set in motion a series of events that lead to him getting fired. but by avoiding that one accident it changed his whole future. therefore Abbadon does not necessarily have to work for Jacob. Jacob just knew that if he was paralyzed he would run into him at the hospital.
I liked that movie too... The loophole there was the Coma, if (S)he died god would have returned to heaven. Had (S)he lived, same outcome. The Coma was like purgetory. Kind of like LOST Island...
oh no dont start that whole business again. it has been said by Cuse and Lindelof that the island is NOT purgatory.
It's possible their memories will be intact and they will have to find each other and go through some crazy business because it didn't exactly fix everything it was supposed to fix. This is Lost. They can make us believe anything, haha.
if they all do flash back maybe it would tie into the whispers some how. that is still a big mystery that i feel needs to be explained. i want to know what those damn whispers are!!
you dont remember the whispers?! i think the first time they show up is when Sayid goes off by himself before he gets trapped in at that time the "french women's" trap.
My wife said the final scene will be Hurly in the psych hospital and we'll realize that he truly is "crazy" and the entire show has been a strange trip into his psychosis. Not quite the "Newhart" dream, but similar. I don't think so, but it's plausible I guess.
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